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KrazyTurbo 01-01-2006 01:15 AM

Speed Shifter
 
Well i decided seince this looks like more of a layed back good quality forum i'd share my new poroject with you guys first. Please dont come in here flameing, constructive critisim only.

Project:

Replace the stock shift pattern with a simple up/down.
Seperate buttons for reverse and nuteral. (will include nuteral saftey switch)

To upshift:
Push in clutch
Tap shifter up
Let off clutch

Downshift is vice versa.

Yes I know other people have made this. But im trying to create a low cost alternative (under $500)

Advantages:
You cant miss a gear (better on tranny)
Shift WAY faster
Firm version for dogboxe's (dont worry about slow shift destorying tranny)
Great for autocross, easier shift
Great for dragracing, worry about everything else not missing your gear.

What do you guys think? I've got everything layed out and myself and 2 other people are working on making this real.

Swifty1638 01-01-2006 01:21 PM

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It would be interesting to see. I'd like to see it..I'd do pull back to go to the next gear, and push forward to downshift..that's how all the pro's do it..and, it works better.

btw, nice avatar..stealer ;-)

-A. Swift

KrazyTurbo 01-01-2006 02:14 PM

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I'll make the shift up/down reversable so you can chose which one you want.

sleepydsm 01-01-2006 02:15 PM

Re: Speed Shifter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KrazyTurbo
Well i decided seince this looks like more of a layed back good quality forum i'd share my new poroject with you guys first. Please dont come in here flameing, constructive critisim only.

Project:

Replace the stock shift pattern with a simple up/down.
Seperate buttons for reverse and nuteral. (will include nuteral saftey switch)

To upshift:
Push in clutch
Tap shifter up
Let off clutch

Downshift is vice versa.

Yes I know other people have made this. But im trying to create a low cost alternative (under $500)

Advantages:
You cant miss a gear (better on tranny)
Shift WAY faster
Firm version for dogboxe's (dont worry about slow shift destorying tranny)
Great for autocross, easier shift
Great for dragracing, worry about everything else not missing your gear.

What do you guys think? I've got everything layed out and myself and 2 other people are working on making this real.

I like the idea, and I too think that would be a neat thing to have. Is it something DSMers would spend $500 on? On another note, I know RRE made some things like what you are talking about. It had a digital display to show what gear you are in.

Matt D. 01-01-2006 02:49 PM

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I've heard of this exact same thing being designed for the Ford Focus, but it hasn't hit production yet as it's still being tested. This would be awesome to have if it works flawlessly.

KrazyTurbo 01-01-2006 04:01 PM

Re: Speed Shifter
 
It would be simular to the one RRE made. And you could add a digital display for the gear if you wanted. This one would be a quite simple hookup, maybe 15min installation. I think dsm'ers would spend a fair ammount for this, after they see how well it works.

Jakey 01-01-2006 05:23 PM

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Do you have a like to the RRE setup? I've never heard of it before, but it definitely sounds like something they would come up with. Is your's going to use some sort of two axis electronic actuator system?

KrazyTurbo 01-01-2006 05:45 PM

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It's possible :)

Goat Blower 01-02-2006 11:32 AM

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Why hasn't RRE pursued it yet then? They did have it years ago.

KrazyTurbo 01-02-2006 02:41 PM

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Unshure, I have a computerized version up and running.

niterydr 01-02-2006 04:12 PM

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Have fun with this one :).

KrazyTurbo 01-02-2006 05:43 PM

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it is fun :) the design and computerized prototype work just fine, now it's time to build an actual prototype.

Jakey 01-02-2006 06:13 PM

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Realistically I don't think it would be that hard to set up if you're good with VBA(or some other programming language) and control systems.

niterydr 01-02-2006 06:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakey
Realistically I don't think it would be that hard to set up if you're good with VBA(or some other programming language) and control systems.

I know, we were toying around with this idea (using paddle shifters) a few years ago.
Fun, but I doubt re-sellable. A person can feel if the clutch pedal is hanging and if the transmission doesn't want to go into gear. A cable that is ramming a car into gear because it was "told to" has no clue that the transmission isn't "ready" for the next gear.

CarPsyco84 01-02-2006 11:21 PM

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sounds like broken shift forks waiting to happen, but after their replaced with steel ones and a double syncro 2nd It might work better... It'll be way tight and I'll give you mad props when it all works out...

KrazyTurbo 01-06-2006 03:18 PM

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The box wont let the shift take place if there is too much resistance :) When that happens you gotta try again etc. And you still have to use the clutch.... So you could feel that.

BoostedTSI 01-26-2006 09:01 AM

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If you can get it to work well I would defenatly pay 500 for it

Super Bleeder!! 01-26-2006 10:44 AM

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i happen to like rowing through the gears on my own. am i the only one?

CVD 01-26-2006 11:30 AM

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Yeah, I think I'll hang onto the enjoyment of manually shifting my not-racecar.

Kracka 01-26-2006 11:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CVD
Yeah, I think I'll hang onto the enjoyment of manually shifting my not-racecar.

Agreed; this is one of the things that I think will make the EVO X not as enjoyable. Great for a racecar, but not a fun streetcar.


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