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Onefast99gsx 08-01-2005 08:56 PM

Building boost and Atmospheric conditions
 
Does the outside air temp and whether it's humid out have a direct impact on the amount of boost you build? The reason i ask is because the other day my MBC was set about about 22psi. The following day i cranked it over a 1/2 turn and tested the car and i wasn't building any more boost. Sunday was much hotter than Sat.

Thanks!

JET 08-01-2005 09:34 PM

Re: Building boost and Atmospheric conditions
 
What is your setup? Especially the turbo/wastegate.

Onefast99gsx 08-01-2005 09:37 PM

Re: Building boost and Atmospheric conditions
 
PTE 50trim, cut divider, internal wastegate(the newer internal gates). Hallman MBC,

Thanks.

JET 08-01-2005 09:39 PM

Re: Building boost and Atmospheric conditions
 
I am guessing your actuator isn't adjusted properly and the wastegate is blowing open. Either that or your MBC is sticking. You can clean it if it is older it may have carbon in it.

Onefast99gsx 08-01-2005 09:45 PM

Re: Building boost and Atmospheric conditions
 
I'll check both. Since i have 2 slimline fans the actuator is easy to get to. I'll loosen the actuator arm up, hold the flapper shut with one hand and retighten the 2 nuts with the other hand.

thanks much...

JET 08-01-2005 11:14 PM

Re: Building boost and Atmospheric conditions
 
Actually you will want to take the arm off the wastegate and extend the arm. Adjust it until it takes a little pressure to get the arm back on.

Jacek 08-02-2005 05:22 PM

Re: Building boost and Atmospheric conditions
 
In regards to the question, the air temp and air pressure have no effect on how much boost you build. For that is all with the boost controller spring compression.

niterydr 08-02-2005 07:11 PM

Re: Building boost and Atmospheric conditions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacek
In regards to the question, the air temp and air pressure have no effect on how much boost you build. For that is all with the boost controller spring compression.

Wrong.
Air temp can have a direct effect on how much 'boost' you can build. If your near the end of your efficency range, you can 'pin' what you can build for boost. (aka can't come up with the boost). Also if your tapped for your boost controller at your compressor cover, that'll change with weather conditions. Where is the boost controller tapped in at?
A boost controller is an item used for increasing demand on top of what the wastegate provides, pending how its hooked up. The boost controller can be influenced by outside temperature/pressure, and other motor/efficiency options, it just comes down to the setup most of the time.

JET 08-02-2005 09:18 PM

Re: Building boost and Atmospheric conditions
 
Swanny is correct. Usually you will see a small change though. I have seen a max change of 2 psi in a car depending on the weather.

Jacek 08-02-2005 09:22 PM

Re: Building boost and Atmospheric conditions
 
I apoligize, my text book did not go into the detail of efficiency. I guess I'm gonna call it a bad book. :)

niterydr 08-03-2005 09:17 AM

Re: Building boost and Atmospheric conditions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacek
I apoligize, my text book did not go into the detail of efficiency. I guess I'm gonna call it a bad book. :)

;)
Real world experience. When John's talon had the 60 trim, the boost would range from 37psi (I guess we hit 40psi one very cold night out racing according to the aem) to some days it wouldn't make over 32. Its a slight swing, but since he is seeing a few psi swing, it could play into effect.

Pushit2.0 08-03-2005 10:18 AM

Re: Building boost and Atmospheric conditions
 
On that note, it was only for about a 1000rpm then fell off on the top end. But man did that car pull hard at that 39psi. It was way faster then the 32psi at the track, on my 11.0 run....

94talonawd 08-28-2005 07:07 PM

Re: Building boost and Atmospheric conditions
 
i think ur boost will change 1-2 psi depending on whether. correct me if i am wrong


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