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Tachyon 02-08-2005 12:29 PM

Where do you buy transmission parts?
 
Hello, I am currently rebuilding my (AWD) transmission and was wondering, for those who do the same, where they buy their transmission parts from. Obviously, I can get most of the stuff directly from Satan, but, alternative vendors would be nice. In addition, I am looking for a few custom parts (specifically stronger rails) TRE doesn’t seem willing to sell their parts to me any more. So, if anybody has a favorite place to get their tranny parts from, I would be happy to hear.

Thanks

Super Bleeder!! 02-08-2005 01:14 PM

Re: Where do you buy transmission parts?
 
why would tre NOT want to make money off of you? Turbotrix/BM tranny sell stuff too

1ViciousGSX 02-08-2005 02:17 PM

Re: Where do you buy transmission parts?
 
Shep?

Why won't TRE sell you anything? They have parts listed for sale.

Jakey 02-08-2005 02:35 PM

Re: Where do you buy transmission parts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX
Shep?

Why won't TRE sell you anything? They have parts listed for sale.

I believe TRE discontinued selling parts outright.

Tachyon 02-08-2005 08:34 PM

Re: Where do you buy transmission parts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakey
I believe TRE discontinued selling parts outright.

Quite correct... as indicated by the scrolling marquee on their homepage.

I might shoot Shep an email, although I always thought he was more into the rebuilding aspect then parts vending? Anybody ever able to purchase some of his parts outright?

1slowdsm 02-08-2005 10:40 PM

Re: Where do you buy transmission parts?
 
Good thread. I was planning on rebuilding my awd tranny also. It'll be my first time ever, so I'll take a few tries..haha. We might as well rebuild it ourselves if we're going to keep our dsms any longer. How much does it normally cost..like to replace the main parts? Price range would be good also. (Sorry if I seem like I'm trying to take over this thread...just tell me to make my own if you think I'm taking over...)

A//// Guy 02-09-2005 12:24 AM

Re: Where do you buy transmission parts?
 
^You already made a thread about it and you asked if a screwdriver and hammer were all you needed. Then we told you to not touch the hood release :)

niterydr 02-09-2005 04:01 AM

Re: Where do you buy transmission parts?
 
::shakes head::
contact shep racing, he purchases directly from TRE.

1slowdsm 02-09-2005 06:49 AM

Re: Where do you buy transmission parts?
 
I know I did, but no one told me how much it'll cost..so I make another attempt here. But I found out some prices. Shep racing charges about $900 for their rebuild and thats for a FULL rebuild, I think. Should be a little cheaper if I do it myself. (maybe....)

Super Bleeder!! 02-09-2005 03:20 PM

Re: Where do you buy transmission parts?
 
it'll be more expensive though after you fuck it up and end up sending it to someone that knows what they're doing :)

JET 02-09-2005 05:36 PM

Re: Where do you buy transmission parts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by niterydr
::shakes head::
contact shep racing, he purchases directly from TRE.

Are you sure about that? Shep doesn't like TRE much and when I got my tranny done, the parts did NOT come from TRE. He had them custom made.

A//// Guy 02-09-2005 06:35 PM

Re: Where do you buy transmission parts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by notnormal
it'll be more expensive though after you fuck it up and end up sending it to someone that knows what they're doing :)

This guy is right :)

1slowdsm 02-09-2005 09:59 PM

Re: Where do you buy transmission parts?
 
I know that, but I'm going to have/want to learn to do it myself someday. I'm not 100% sure if I'm going to do it myself yet...I dont feel like screwing up either. We'll see what I end up doing.

Tachyon 02-10-2005 01:12 AM

Re: Where do you buy transmission parts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by notnormal
it'll be more expensive though after you fuck it up and end up sending it to someone that knows what they're doing :)

.....

Seriously, rebuilding transmissions is hardly rocket science. True, there is a chance you could muck it up if you have improper tools and are not paying attention to detail (or just randomly decide to pour gravel into the tranny for grins...)
Anyhoo, here are a couple of good tutorials:

tut01
tut02

Ultimately it comes down to price. Lets look what you get in a standard Shepherd rebuild:

New 1-2 fork
New 3-4 fork
New Shepracing spec 2nd gear
New 1-2 hub/sleeve kit with double synchro rings
New 3-4 synchro rings
New 5th gear synchro rings
New 1-2-3-4 synchro springs
New input ,output ,and both drive shaft seals
New Input shaft bearings
New intermediate gear bearings
New roll pins
New end nuts
New center diff side shims
New nylon shifter pad
Shims for setting preload

The only thing that jumps out at me is the spec 2nd gear. The rest of the stuff can be bought relatively easy.

I haven't rebuilt a transmission in over a year (only reason I have to open this one up is because some clownshoe broke the rail end on the 3/4 rail by ripping on the shifter...) so I cannot get current prices for you. The prices do vary quite a bit depending on where you go. For example, I was quoted $75 for the front input shaft bearing by Mitsubishi. So, just for fun I called up the Eagle dealership (both are owned by the same person in Duluth) and was quoted $27 for the part. The only difference was they had different CAP numbers. In addition, I am able to get some of the bearings from a NSK wholesaler as well but for some odd reason NSK now have different part numbers then what is stamped on the original transmission bearings.


When I get time, I am going to send John an email (and beg TRE) and also get a current price listing for some of the stock parts form Mitsubishi. I'll report back in when I have more information.

1slowdsm 02-15-2005 07:25 PM

Re: Where do you buy transmission parts?
 
Thanks...that would help alot.

john 02-15-2005 10:00 PM

Re: Where do you buy transmission parts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EclipseTurbo
This guy is right :)

You can only learn by doing. I never thought I would ever be pulling motors out of cars and I have done several last year. I may experiment myself on the tranny rebuild if I ever get time this summer. Cannot be as difficult as everyone thinks. Pull apart with correct tools (have plenty of gear pullers, etc at work) inspect for worn parts, and put back together in order. Then make sure dowel pins are in and throw on the tranny.

I honestly would probly never send a tranny to Shep or TRE. They are expensive as hell. Rick Shindley has done several and charges in the $200-$250 range plus parts of course. Learning the skill to rebuild a tranny is priceless in a dsm. Who hasn't gone through a synchro???

A//// Guy 02-15-2005 10:24 PM

Re: Where do you buy transmission parts?
 
I tried rebuilding mine. I didnt have the correct gear pullers and a few other tools. Thats is why I quite and gave it to mitsu. I just dont know why everyone thinnks they can do this kind of work when they have no experience. Sure you can do it with no experience, just dont get mad when you mess it up a couple times and you have to rip it out of your car 2 or 3 times because you made a error here and there and it wont shift. Tranny's are pretty complicated and if your a first timer with no tools at all then Id say its not a good decision.

To me, someone with not alot of extra time to mess with a tranny, I would be better off letting someone else deal with it. Unless I really tackled it and got all the right tools to pull bearings and gears.

JET 02-15-2005 10:35 PM

Re: Where do you buy transmission parts?
 
The tranny is probably the hardest thing I have done in a DSM. Rebuilding the engine is way easier. I did eventually get mine to work, but that was the last one I will do. Shep now gets all of my trannies. He knows the exact gaps and does special tricks to get them to work better. This is one place I would not skimp on. Spend the extra $350 and have Shep do it.

ProtOVivantA 02-16-2005 12:21 AM

Re: Where do you buy transmission parts?
 
If anyone is interested or know of a trusted well-known member of the community that would be interested in rebuilding a 91 MR2 tranny please let me know, =].

john 02-16-2005 10:06 AM

Re: Where do you buy transmission parts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JET
The tranny is probably the hardest thing I have done in a DSM. Rebuilding the engine is way easier. I did eventually get mine to work, but that was the last one I will do. Shep now gets all of my trannies. He knows the exact gaps and does special tricks to get them to work better. This is one place I would not skimp on. Spend the extra $350 and have Shep do it.

There is quite a difference in price versus Shindley and Shep. Not only $350. We are talking about costs of ~$250 (for Shindley) and you can drive it over to him. Shep is $900 for labor and you have to deal with shipping. That is a signifigant difference in my opinion. You could tear through a couple of Shindly trannies before justifying the costs of a Shep tranny. I can imaging that it takes Shep a lot longer to fix your tranny and send it back to you. Shindley can do it usually within the week. I have heard nothing but good from Shindley rebuilt trannies.


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