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Pimpin Dsmstyle 12-04-2004 06:27 PM

something tranny related
 
I noticed that my gears were a lil sticky last night.. and then today.. on my way to WI, i noticed it was getting very hard to get the car into and out of a gear ( any gear). Byt the time i reached the end of my journey to rice lake, I pretty much couldnt get it into gear with out smashing it in. I pulled into the drive way, took it out of gear and before i let the clutch out it died. I couldnt get it into ANY gear no matter what i did. Also, it would start for a good 15 seconds and die again... that might not be transmission related. I have noticed something leaking a little from the passenger side somewhere. I cant figure out exactly what it is.. thought it was oil but it wasnt. Thought it was power steering fluid.. nope.. i duno, I need help. I cant get home until i figure this out. Thanks.

Kracka 12-04-2004 06:45 PM

Maybe it was tranny fluid leaking...that could deffinately explain the "sticky" shifting. I'd try draining any remaining fluid and refilling it with new GL-4 for now, and then putting some good stuff in once you are back home. I believe a gallon of generic GL-4 is about $5 at Checker.

TheBlizzard 12-04-2004 07:51 PM

Or your mastercylinder is shot. I know it wouldbn't be leaking from the passenger side but that could be something else.

CRAIG

JasonR 12-04-2004 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 90lazerRST
I noticed that my gears were a lil sticky last night.. and then today.. on my way to WI, i noticed it was getting very hard to get the car into and out of a gear ( any gear). Byt the time i reached the end of my journey to rice lake, I pretty much couldnt get it into gear with out smashing it in. I pulled into the drive way, took it out of gear and before i let the clutch out it died. I couldnt get it into ANY gear no matter what i did. Also, it would start for a good 15 seconds and die again... that might not be transmission related. I have noticed something leaking a little from the passenger side somewhere. I cant figure out exactly what it is.. thought it was oil but it wasnt. Thought it was power steering fluid.. nope.. i duno, I need help. I cant get home until i figure this out. Thanks.

Where is it leaking exactly Josh. Take a flash light and look under tranny if you can. You can drain the tranny fluid and inspect. Then make sure correct amount when adding new tranny fluid. Use large wrench for leverage. Hope for the best. Hey is the car running well besides the tranny. Jason.

Pimpin Dsmstyle 12-04-2004 07:58 PM

i cant really tell where the leak is coming when its outside on a shit load of snow and its cold and dark. Ive tried looking before and i just cant pin point it.. ive been meaning to get it on the lift so i can find it better. Walmart didnt have ne thing but GL5 or whatever. So i didnt get that. I just bought some dot 3 so i can bleed the clutch cuz i was told that could be a possability. However, im staying for the night and i will get some gear lube 4 in the morning. I was told you need to pump the lube in? What is that all about and how can i drain / fill it?

JasonR 12-04-2004 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JasonR
Where is it leaking exactly Josh. Take a flash light and look under tranny if you can. You can drain the tranny fluid and inspect. Then make sure correct amount when adding new tranny fluid. Use large wrench for leverage. Hope for the best. Hey is the car running well besides the tranny. Jason.

Maybe the clutch release (slave) cylinder is loose or the line is loose. The connection of clutch tube. High pressure hydrolic line. Needs to be tourqued 12 ft ibs. Hydraulics failing. If the release cylinder push rod does'nt work the release fork wont. I think it is 12 or 14mm to tighten the clutch tube connected to slave cylinder. Do this and just add as much fluid as you can until it over flows. The system hydraulic probably needs to be bleeded again. I dont know I could be wrong. Hope not. If you have chiltons it is under 7-18, figure #43. Good picture of tube connected to slave cylinder.

Pimpin Dsmstyle 12-04-2004 08:12 PM

you think id leave home without chiltons and some basic dsm tools? HAHA!! lol, im gonna push it into the garage in a couple hours and have at it. I wish i was at home so you could help me. To answer your question.. occassionally i have crazy idle issues, but other than that.. its been running like a top.. the more miles i drive, the better the mileage is.. its cleaning itself up slowly. Im getting a stock DP ( ordered already) monday so i no longer have that massive crack in my exhaust. I found out today that a bolt holding my o2 housing to my turbo wasnt even CLOSE to tightened, its like a half inch out lol. Could that be a reason for the massive exhaust after reving or something? I should check that out eh?

JasonR 12-04-2004 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 90lazerRST
i cant really tell where the leak is coming when its outside on a shit load of snow and its cold and dark. Ive tried looking before and i just cant pin point it.. ive been meaning to get it on the lift so i can find it better. Walmart didnt have ne thing but GL5 or whatever. So i didnt get that. I just bought some dot 3 so i can bleed the clutch cuz i was told that could be a possability. However, im staying for the night and i will get some gear lube 4 in the morning. I was told you need to pump the lube in? What is that all about and how can i drain / fill it?

Drain plug is on bottom of tranny. I think it is 17 mm size. Drain the fluid, go to napa to get gl-4 tranny fluid, screw in drain plug, then filler plug is higher, hence why you need a pump to pump the fluid back in tranny. Filler plug I think is 17mm too. Undo, add fluid until over flows, page 1-65 chiltons book fig #198. Put filler bolt back on. I think the tube connection to slave cylinder needs to be tightened. Hydraulics failing.

JasonR 12-04-2004 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 90lazerRST
you think id leave home without chiltons and some basic dsm tools? HAHA!! lol, im gonna push it into the garage in a couple hours and have at it. I wish i was at home so you could help me. To answer your question.. occassionally i have crazy idle issues, but other than that.. its been running like a top.. the more miles i drive, the better the mileage is.. its cleaning itself up slowly. Im getting a stock DP ( ordered already) monday so i no longer have that massive crack in my exhaust. I found out today that a bolt holding my o2 housing to my turbo wasnt even CLOSE to tightened, its like a half inch out lol. Could that be a reason for the massive exhaust after reving or something? I should check that out eh?

Your smart carrying chilton with ya. I want to hurt that guy real bad!

JasonR 12-04-2004 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JasonR
Your smart carrying chilton with ya. I want to hurt that guy real bad!

Called your cell. No answer.

Pimpin Dsmstyle 12-04-2004 09:06 PM

im gonna go at it sometime tonight. Since i couldnt find the proper lube ill just play with the slave cylinder and bleeder valve and see where to go after that. anyother ideas would be appreciated.

Kracka 12-04-2004 09:24 PM

You can get a funnel and connect it to a long clear tube and fill the tranny that way too.

Pimpin Dsmstyle 12-04-2004 09:26 PM

prolly goin that route lol. I aint buyin no pump heh.

Pimpin Dsmstyle 12-04-2004 10:40 PM

Update, i went to move the car into the garage to work on it. It would shift into every gear before i turned it on, then when i turned it on.. it went into gear but had to jam it. Before when it was dying.. there was no way i could get it into a gear. weird eh

Pimpin Dsmstyle 12-04-2004 10:42 PM

this couldnt be a temp thing could it? I think hydraulic lines are pressurized when the car is not but not when its off right?

LightningGSX 12-04-2004 11:43 PM

Sounds lke a clutch disengagment problem, like the master or the slave or the line between them.Did you find what and where you were leaking?

Pimpin Dsmstyle 12-05-2004 12:25 AM

there is moisture ALL OVER where the bleeder screw is and basically the hole underside of the tranny.. thats all i know so far. I had a fucking trany bolt loose as hell.. could that have done ne thing? Um this sounds stupid as shit but i forgot which hydraulic res is for clutch and which is for brakes.. i think the big one is brakes right? Well at ne rate, the big one is a bit low and is brown as fuck. The little one is still good clear and full....

Pimpin Dsmstyle 12-05-2004 12:41 AM

im letting it warm up before i go out test driving.. but OMG IT SLIDES IN AND OUT LIKE NEW!!! That stupid tranny screw must have not allowed it to keep pressure or something.. which means i should probably still bleed it. I cant work in freezing wheather so i wanna make it home before i do all that unless it is needed badly.

john 12-05-2004 11:00 AM

Is the fluid on the bottom of the tranny brake fluid or tranny fliud? That would be the eas way to tell what kind of leak it is. One loose tranny bolt with the rest torqued down properly will not give you much of any problem. That would not cause the tranny to leak fluid. My bet is on the tranny not havig any/enough fluid in it. My friends 96 gst had the same problem. Trans started to shift shitty, progressed to not wanting to go into gears, and not wanting to drive. He never told me about it and ended up without anymore tranny fluid in it. His tranny was unrebuildable. Needed to buy another. I would seriously check the fluid before making any substansial trip.

I use the Hughes method also to fill tranny fluid. Takes forever. I should try the pump method. It takes a long time for the fluid to drain out of the hose. Maybe it is just the cold weather...

A//// Guy 12-05-2004 12:37 PM

Pumps are like 5 dollars at checker... Thats the way I only do it. Takes a bit of pumping but is easier than funneling it.

I would seriously check your fluid level.


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