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Enes 09-23-2004 11:26 AM

Well,
i'm thinking of how to limit the weight transfer more on the fwd cars.

I was thinking making like two rods in the rear suspension to make it solid. so like i can bolt it in place of the shock? and the rear of the car would be higher than normal?

The only setback to that is that i'd have to keep swaping the rear suspension every time i'd go to the track, which is not that often anyways..

what do you guys think?


which also means i would have to get a new shock tower collar and a shock that i can weld to it..

-E

Matt D. 09-23-2004 12:08 PM

Solid rear suspension is a bit extreme... You want a little give back there. I'd suggest just getting adjustable shocks. The Teins that are on display at Propulshun get pretty damn stiff at their highest setting.

Enes 09-23-2004 01:11 PM

i currently have Tokico's 5 way adjustables.
-E

Goat Blower 09-23-2004 01:32 PM

Get coil-overs and set the rears as high as they'll go and the fronts as low as possible without the tires rubbing and set all four shocks at full firm. Or if you wanted to do it on the cheap, just pick up some coil spring spacers that twist in between the coils. We used to buy them back in the day when jacking up your Chevy was cool.

carltalon 09-23-2004 09:03 PM

AIR BAGS. you can go from street to strip with a push of a button.

MustGoFaster 09-23-2004 09:49 PM

Or maybe just some metal rods you can bolt in place with the car jacked up? Or a couple of cylinders (hydraulic or pneumatic) that you could fill (air pressure, or just oil to lock it if you use hydraulic cylinders) to stiffen up or lock the rear suspension but leave bolted/welded in place for street driving? Just a few more ideas for you. There was a kit to do this with pneumatic cylinders for sale at one point in time, that was a few years ago, obviously never caught on. I don’t remember who it was, but Dijon tool pops into mind.

JET 09-23-2004 10:32 PM

I am with Carl, bag it. Takes very little time to do and still gives you some suspension. You are back to normal street settings in 20 seconds too.

Shane@DBPerformance 09-24-2004 01:38 AM

Wheelie bars.

IneedaGSX 09-26-2004 01:56 AM

I don't know if this is true or not but I have heard that with two much power and airbags you can blowout the airbags on the lauch. :3gears:

Jacek 09-26-2004 04:29 AM

the bars might not be good on the body. ive heard of some hondas doing it in place of their coil over setup. but it just does not seem like a good idea.

unreal808 09-26-2004 08:32 AM

from what I understand, if the rear axl is solid the hole time, you could lose control you need some suspension, so make somthing that releases after the most weight transfer. you would not want to flip over right. :rally:

niterydr 09-26-2004 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ecoli@Sep 24 2004, 12:38 AM
Wheelie bars.
I like this idea better ;).

Goat Blower 09-26-2004 11:56 PM

Wheelie bars with hydraulic actuators for adjustable height on the fly. And a large set of airfoils in front of the car to keep the nose down at speed.

Kracka 09-27-2004 10:51 AM

Coilovers or spring-blocks. I don't see wheelie bars being truely effective on FWD unless they are actually holding tension against the ground. When I ran at the track, I found my best settings on my AGX shocks were 8 (full hard) in the rear, and 3 (1-4, 4 being hardest) up front. I always had my coilovers set with a slight tilt forward to keep weight over the front tires.

A//// Guy 09-27-2004 10:56 AM

^ What kind of 60 foots were you pulling?

Enes 09-27-2004 11:46 AM

2.4 best of beint 2.37 the 13.1 run

-E

Kracka 09-27-2004 01:07 PM

My 60's were generally right around 2.3 or so, mostly due to no traction. 17's are no good for drag-racing. Launching wasn't my strong-point either....very inconsisent.

Shane@DBPerformance 09-27-2004 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TalonTSiDude@Sep 27 2004, 10:51 AM
Coilovers or spring-blocks. I don't see wheelie bars being truely effective on FWD unless they are actually holding tension against the ground. When I ran at the track, I found my best settings on my AGX shocks were 8 (full hard) in the rear, and 3 (1-4, 4 being hardest) up front. I always had my coilovers set with a slight tilt forward to keep weight over the front tires.
Yea, you never see any of the full drag race FWDs with wheelie bars on them. :)

Enes 09-27-2004 01:26 PM

the hardest part is that actually i don't want to mess up the body in order to run the wheelie bars.. i would hate to have to take the bumper and all that stuff off every time. but if i have to i supose i will..

-E

JET 09-27-2004 05:11 PM

Check out Smithoid's car. He has 2 round holes in the back bumper to mount his wheelie bars. It is not very noticeable at all, especially on a black car. Bagging it would be the easiest to do and could be used on the street too.


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