im switching to the 3rd gen lifters to hopefully cure some crazy phantom knock. has anyone else done this? is it simple with 2 big screwdrivers for prying, per the vfaq?

Yep

If they were lifters, this is not a v-8. HLA's.

~John

they lift, i think that qualifies them as lifters

Nope, lifters are actuated by pushrods. They are HLA's technically, hydraulic lash adjusters.

Don't the lifters actuate the pushrods? :stick:

here i thought they moved up and down under the rocker arm. you say tubor, i say potato

The lifters for the 4g63/4 dohc head only remove the excess play/slack in the rocker arm to cam & valve clearance. They do not lift. They are stationary in the head.

Also there not rockers, they are cam followers, they fallow the cam, they do not rock.

~John

Pushrods rule! Even though most of you Sally types don't even know what they are. :stick:

1) Lifters actuate pushrods, not the other way around.

2) Mike, some of us DO know what pushrods are. LOL.

Hows that Joe, see em in an old movie once? :razz2:

My Grand Prix has pushrods.

Correction: Most pushrods rule!

Yeah, I saw them in Gone in 60 Seconds... LOL

I like pushrods. I also like the OHC replacements for them. I cannot decide which one is truely better though. OHC in theory is better, but in execution it still seems pushrods are for the most part ahead.