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mark4g63t 04-02-2014 04:58 PM

Crank But No Start
 
Hey guy's so I had sold that 98 Eclipse RS and the guy came to pick it up today and it has a crank but no start symptom.

I HAVE CHECKED:
Power at pump...There is none.
Ground at pump and it has ground.
Jumped the fuel pump with a battery and it works fine.
Power at the relay and it has power to everything but the fuel pump wire (black W/ blue stripe) Have tried 2 new relays with same results
I have jumped the relay from the voltage source going to the relay that has power to the fuel pump wire (B/BL) and it activated the pump fine.
Checked for power at the ASD relay and it gets power, Also replaced this relay at the same time as the Fuel pump relay.

It did pop the main engine fuse and would pop it immediately upon inserting a new one so I thought short somewhere or the computer kicked it out. Unplugged the batt. for 10 mins and hooked it back up to rule out computer and it hasn't popped the fuse yet.

I also noticed that the check engine light doesn't come on at all when turning the key from off to the on or start position (no flashing) Any thoughts on this? Was told that it means the computer is bad.

mark4g63t 04-02-2014 05:18 PM

Re: Crank But No Start
 
2 Attachment(s)
Here's what I know: Key on

ASD Relay:
B/R going to ASD relay has no power
R/B leaving ASD has power
B/W leaving ASD has power
R/W from ASD to PCM has power

Fuel Pump Relay:
R/B has power
B/W has power
W/R has power
B/BL to fuel pump has no power

Ihearrtdsm 04-02-2014 05:21 PM

Re: Crank But No Start
 
I have a 99 5 speed ecu you can borrow to test to see if that solves the problem. I'll send you a pm with my number.

mark4g63t 04-02-2014 07:46 PM

Re: Crank But No Start
 
Well swapped ECUs and still same problem. Check engine light flashed once before I heard the fuse main engine fuse pop again. It's getting shorted somewhere.

TkrPerformance 04-02-2014 08:07 PM

Re: Crank But No Start
 
Start checking the starter wiring and all the other wiring by the fuse box.

mark4g63t 04-02-2014 09:09 PM

Re: Crank But No Start
 
Alight so I noticed something, not sure if they are connected or not but the main fuse wont pop until I put the ignition switch fuse in. Once both are in it pops the main one.

dsmreck 04-02-2014 10:24 PM

Re: Crank But No Start
 
my last no start i had the crank trigger on the wrong way lol, hope its something simple for you bud

dsmghost 04-03-2014 07:33 AM

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Start disconnecting components on those circuits individually until you can put a fuse in without it popping.

mark4g63t 04-03-2014 09:03 PM

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Well I gave up out of frustration with the guy stopping by every 2 hours to see if it was finished or not. Sent it to goodyear and they called back after 3 hours and said it was a mess and couldn't find the problem and claimed it to be "done for". So looks like I will be towing it back to my house and ripping it all apart/ taking the remote start and security system that was hacked together out.

polishmafia 04-03-2014 10:14 PM

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Which Goodyear? The guys at my old shop don't just give up. There is always a way to fix a car.

TkrPerformance 04-03-2014 10:38 PM

Re: Crank But No Start
 
If it has a aftermarket alarm just take it all out and fix the wiring back to stock. Very likely to be the problem. the immobilizer in the alarm is not letting it start.

mark4g63t 04-04-2014 09:57 AM

Re: Crank But No Start
 
Goodyear in Chanhassen, I don't blame them for not wanting to even try to tackle this job.
Yes, I immediately thought it had something to do with the addition of the remote start/alarm once I saw how it was installed.

Fran05 04-04-2014 01:44 PM

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Maybe thats why you should NOT try a sell a hacked up pos bucket of a car for $2500 to unsuspecting people. Will save you some time and effort later, you know.

mark4g63t 04-04-2014 02:31 PM

Re: Crank But No Start
 
Ran fine on the test drive at 11:30.. didn't start that same day at 4:00.. has started every time and drove fine every day of the past week i've had it..and fine for the previous owner whom I knew and knew drove it, but it's cool, being a dick doesn't get you anywhere or help the situation. Thanks tho.

I still have people wanting to take it as is and will tow it away.

dsmghost 04-04-2014 05:03 PM

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Any news? How much are you paying for diagnostics at Goodyear? Where are you located? If not too far from me I can properly diagnose your car.

mark4g63t 04-04-2014 05:25 PM

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was $100 for an hour.
I'm in EP. Will be towing the car back to my place and taking the remote start/ security system out and going from there.

dsmreck 04-09-2014 03:32 PM

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I had an issue with my viper after my dyno appt last year. The batteries fixed the problem though.

mark4g63t 04-09-2014 07:34 PM

Re: Crank But No Start
 
Started taking everything for the system out to convert back to original. Still not getting spark or fuel.

dsmreck 04-09-2014 10:19 PM

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crank sensor or cam sensor?

mark4g63t 04-10-2014 09:43 AM

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Going to be checking those today.


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