In typical DSM-Style fashion a thread with a controversy in it was locked. Unfortunately, I still had a question on the issue. You say to use email if we want something to be private...but I am guessing that you guys will also monitor any out-going emails sent by clicking the "email" button. Please correct me if I am wrong.

hmm good question...
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Enes has sent you this email from
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I was also hoping the thread to remain open as through both of my posts, I tried to stay as clear and calm as possible in order to prevent rough debates developing, but instead, encouraging constructive discussion.

Agreed. Besides for my post about The Man coming after me, I too kept it on a professional level.

How long till this one gets locked?

after reading about the PM's I went through and started Deleting everything. Not that I had anything to say but I'd been talking about pricing with shops. And I didn't think they'd like if there price's were revealed.

Sucks, I liked useing PM's cause if I use Email I have a chance of my work catching me. And Like I said some shops probably don't like to have there pricing/ conversations posted in public.

Also sucks cause I'd talked with several poeple about there Mod list's and what not in reference for the MN 1/4 Mayhem. Which means it wasn't kept Confidential.


But in hindsite I think I'm actually going to read the rules sometime that way I know what's going on. Cause I had no idea PM's were actually public.

No see this is a whole differant subjet and honestly the other thread was for a differant use.

The software comes with board logs that the admin team uses to monitor sections. Here is a breakdown:

Admin logs - for all movement and activities by an admin member
Moderator logs - same as above but for mods/leads/ect
Bot logs - gives details on all the "bots" out there that hit the site. Google and such.
Warn logs - never used so not sure what it really does
E-mail logs - It shows all outgoing e-mail from members of the site to another member of the site. It does include evertyhing in the e-mail, but we have had less than 20 e-mails go out from that feature thus it really has no need for moderation at this point.

Those are all standard board features.

See Brian, that's what's intended for the PMs. Do you think we go through every PM to see who's charging what? Nope. Thats using the feature that way it's designed. Those are not the PMs we worry about. There are thousands of PMs sotred and we in no way have the time, will, or need to monitor all of them.

So....is there a way to make the Email feature direct? I dont use the email feature (and I assume others dont) because it goes through the site. I'd be just as well off using a PM. If I could reveal my email adress to others, and in turn have other's email adresses revealed to me via the site (by choice only of course) I would use it more often.

Chris

Yeah, thats a feature we are looking to add ad well, for those who want to have it in public view it will be. along with location field.

The question I would still like to answered please is where in the rules or publically posted administrator interpretation of the rules, does it say that those who choose to read PM's reserve the right to interpret the material he/she is reading how he/she pleases without consulting the author of the PM? That's all I want to know and I believe it is important enough that it should be publically posted information. Am I still bitter about the events which happened to me, yes, which is why I keep requesting a further explanation of the moderating techniques used when administrators choose to read PMs. I realize I am making this a big deal but all I am asking for is an answer, please.

Thank You!!

Interpretation is up to said admin. Nuff said. Move on.

Jakey, maybe that would be better taken up with a mod via PM, unless of course you are willing to fill us in. 90% of us have no idea wtf you are talking about.

...been there, tried that. You can view my post describing what I'm talking about in the "changes" thread on page five.

If you want more information, ask Hughes, or I'll talk to you some other time because as Allan has requested, I am going to shut up now unless someone directly asks me something.

Jake

Private messages should be kept private and so should emails. I dont think admins should have the right to even glance at other people's business. But then again its there site so they can do what they want.... They just shouldnt be called Private messages. And there should be a warning to people that admins can read everything they want and tell anyone they choose about stuff in a "private" message.

Here are the RULES as posted on 11/11/03.

I wanna know what happened. The way your making it sound to me is it sounds like you said "HI" and they interpretted it as "YOU'RE GUNNA BURN IN HELL DSMSTYLE". If they totally interpretted what you said wrong, and you told them that they did and explained what you really meant, I would hope they'd say "Woops My Bad, Sorry, Have A Great Day". And if that's what they did do, then all should be well. If they didn't and continue to hang it over your head, then shame on them. Drama's retarded. Just move on, if you're really that mad, I seem to get the idea Allan is no GIANT, so go regulate on his ass!!!!! j/k, im small too, it sucks :(