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96GST16g 03-04-2010 03:03 PM

to do or not to do?
 
well i bought my motor this past weekend and the guy i purchased it from said to take out the balance shafts out.. i have done a little research and they say it makes more vibration... i have talked to a few peoples that have done it and they say it vibrates like hell and not to do it is it really that benificial? its a 7 bolt and i am running an evo III

Kevin 1G Drummer 03-04-2010 03:28 PM

Re: to do or not to do?
 
Use a kit and get them out of there. The one going to the oil pump siezed on my first dsm which stopped the pump and blew up my motor. The extra tiny bit of vibration is a non issue IMHO.

1ViciousGSX 03-04-2010 03:46 PM

Re: to do or not to do?
 
There are so many 4g6x engines running around without them it's a no brainer.

Matt D. 03-04-2010 03:48 PM

Re: to do or not to do?
 
The Evo X doesn't use balance shafts. Take them out properly and you'll be better off in the long run.

CarPsyco84 03-04-2010 04:49 PM

Re: to do or not to do?
 
If you think the vibration might bother you then maybe not, but as far as reliability its more reliable having them out, most timing belt failures are caused from the stupid front balence shaft belt.

1ViciousGSX 03-04-2010 04:58 PM

Re: to do or not to do?
 
Pulled mine out of my original 7 bolt and never noticed a real difference. Take them out and move on.

Shane@DBPerformance 03-04-2010 05:06 PM

Re: to do or not to do?
 
The added vibration is minimal. Poly or solid motor mounts will add a lot more vibration than doing a balance shaft removal. You do get crazy vibration if you only remove the belt, or if you don't know that having the oil pump marked lined up when doing the timing belt only gives you a 50/50 chance of being right and you get the balance shaft 180 degrees out of phase.

96GST16g 03-04-2010 05:07 PM

Re: to do or not to do?
 
alright im prolly gonna have a shop do it how much does it cost? and what hp improvements can i expect? and should i put 264 cams in?

Shane@DBPerformance 03-04-2010 05:27 PM

Re: to do or not to do?
 
It's a pain to do with the motor in the car. Most people do it when they have the motor out for a rebuild. Who knows on power, maybe 5 hp. It mostly makes life easier and makes it less likely that the balance shaft belt takes out your timing belt. I would only put in 264s if you have a tiny turbo like a T25 or 14B, otherwise get something bigger.

96GST16g 03-04-2010 05:40 PM

Re: to do or not to do?
 
so if i am running an evo III should get 272s?

1ViciousGSX 03-04-2010 05:42 PM

Re: to do or not to do?
 
If you're going to make the change, go 272. 264 cams are not much bigger than stock.

96GST16g 03-04-2010 05:53 PM

Re: to do or not to do?
 
then would i have to do valvtrain work?

asshanson 03-04-2010 05:56 PM

Re: to do or not to do?
 
No, you'll be fine with 272s on stock valvesprings. Pretty mild lift on most of them for DSMs.

96GST16g 03-04-2010 06:00 PM

Re: to do or not to do?
 
so what would be a good brand to go with that is relitivly cheap?

goodhart 03-04-2010 06:02 PM

Re: to do or not to do?
 
HKS. I know Brad (C3L1CA on here) has had pretty good luck with his DKS (I think) cams.

1ViciousGSX 03-04-2010 06:03 PM

Re: to do or not to do?
 
Hks

asshanson 03-04-2010 06:24 PM

Re: to do or not to do?
 
hks 272 or FP2

Constant_Project21 03-06-2010 03:04 PM

Re: to do or not to do?
 
I'll be going with some delta k272's in my car this year, but those are a bit more aggressive. I'd say if your going for budget, BC 272's are okay....by no means the best. Better off spending the money and buying hks 272's.

96GST16g 03-06-2010 06:22 PM

Re: to do or not to do?
 
cams are so expencive do they increase alot of hp? or is it more for torque

Matt D. 03-06-2010 08:50 PM

Re: to do or not to do?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 96GST16g (Post 328226)
cams are so expencive do they increase alot of hp? or is it more for torque

It's for everything, helps turbos spool better and give more power down low as well as help the engine breathe in the higher RPM range and hold power better to redline.


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