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Goat Blower 11-07-2008 12:55 PM

Obamanomics Explained
 
Here's a simple analogy for our tax system, kinda puts things in perspective.

BAR STOOL ECONOMICS (Obamanomics)

Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100.

If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this:

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7.
The eighth would pay $12.
The ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that's what they decided to do. The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve.

Since you are all such good customers, he said, I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20.

Drinks for the ten now cost just $80.
The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free.

But what about the other six men - the paying customers?
How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share?'

They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay! And so:

The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings).
The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28%savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 in stead o f $5 9 (16% savings).
Each of the six was better off than before. And the first
four continued to drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings.

'I only got a dollar out of the $20, 'declared the sixth man.
He pointed to the tenth man, 'but he got $10!'

'Yeah, that's right,' exclaimed the fifth man. 'I only saved a dollar, too. It's unfair that he got ten times more than I!'

'That's true!!' shouted the seventh man.. 'Why should he get $10 back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!'

'Wait a minute,' yelled the first four men in unison.. 'We
didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!'

The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.

The next night the tenth man did n't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down an d had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough
money between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors,
is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get
the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them
for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might
start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier!


David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
Professor of Economics, University of Georgia

For those who understand, no explanation is needed !
For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible !

carltalon 11-07-2008 01:30 PM

Re: Obamanomics Explained
 
Thats pretty good. It's going to be pretty interesting seeing how the Obamanomics works out.

Febo 11-07-2008 02:17 PM

Re: Obamanomics Explained
 
People who really think like that and dont know how percentiles work and what not are really idiots. And thats pretty much all this example shows. Is idiots.

MATCHBX 11-07-2008 02:31 PM

Re: Obamanomics Explained
 
There is a line from an old Dennis Quaid movie called Dragonheart that kind of sums all this up too.

"When the nobility is squeezed, it's the peasants that feel the pinch."

A//// Guy 11-07-2008 02:33 PM

Re: Obamanomics Explained
 
Thats a good one!

Shane@DBPerformance 11-07-2008 02:42 PM

Re: Obamanomics Explained
 
David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D. Professor of Economics, University of Georgia did not write that and that is very poor example of how taxes actually work.

Kracka 11-07-2008 02:48 PM

Re: Obamanomics Explained
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MATCHBX (Post 263882)
"When the nobility is squeezed, it's the peasants that feel the pinch."

This is exactly true. Raise their taxes, they cut wages/jobs.

BLaCk_1cE 11-07-2008 02:55 PM

Re: Obamanomics Explained
 
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Goat Blower 11-07-2008 04:20 PM

Re: Obamanomics Explained
 
I kinda figured he wasn't actually the author, but the economic principles look pretty accurate to me.

Goat Blower 11-07-2008 04:21 PM

Re: Obamanomics Explained
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RLFebo (Post 263880)
People who really think like that and dont know how percentiles work and what not are really idiots. And thats pretty much all this example shows. Is idiots.

Please enlighten us.

Febo 11-07-2008 04:41 PM

Re: Obamanomics Explained
 
If someone cant figure out that if you pay more you get more back then they fall into the idiot category. Its simple math, the more you put in, the more you get back. And its still going to be that way. Just they wont get as much back as they used to. Everyone is making this sound like we are going to litterally take every last tax dollar the rich pay in and give it directly to the poor. Holy fuck. Its getting stupid.


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