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GnArKiLl 02-06-2008 04:34 PM

mbc wont work
 
ok well my car will not hold constant boost i have tryed 2 mbc's and both have done the same thing..

i have my mbc set at 0 psi turned all the way down and it still goes past 20psi on my gauge. i have it tapped into the bov like its spose to be. i have tryed changing the wg actuator but still doesnt work.

what else could i try

asshanson 02-06-2008 04:40 PM

Re: mbc wont work
 
Do you have a pressure source on the turbo?

Just run a vacuum line from the pressure source like the intake mani or turbo and run it straight into the wastegate actuator. That should run the same boost pressure as the wastegate spring, 10 lbs or whatever.

If that doesn't hold boost down then it's the actuator or flapper not opening when it should.

JET 02-06-2008 05:03 PM

Re: mbc wont work
 
Does it go to 20psi right away or does it slowly go up there as the RPM increases?

Kracka 02-06-2008 05:10 PM

Re: mbc wont work
 
Tell us more about your setup. What kind of MBC? Are you sure you are adjusting it the correct way?

GnArKiLl 02-06-2008 05:21 PM

Re: mbc wont work
 
jet- it will hit 20+psi almost right way less than 50% throttle

kracka- its a turbo xs mbc and yes i am adjusting it the right way.. the car is on a 14b stock side mount 3" exhaust all free mods done thats about it

Shane@DBPerformance 02-06-2008 05:26 PM

Re: mbc wont work
 
What doe sit do with no boost controller? Just a vaccum line from the wastegate to a boost source?

Are you sure the lines to the MBC aren't backwards? Turbo XS boost controllers often work the opposite way off most boost controllers. Make sure there aren't any holes/cuts in your vacuum lines too.

Kracka 02-06-2008 05:35 PM

Re: mbc wont work
 
I bet you're getting insane boost creep, my 1G did this too when I installed a turboback exhaust on a stock turbo/o2 housing (back in 2001). Check what Shane suggested first and if thats not it I bet its creep.

GnArKiLl 02-06-2008 05:37 PM

Re: mbc wont work
 
i know it is hooked up right thats for sure...

im gonna try and run a line from the jpipe to a wg and see what happens

JET 02-06-2008 05:52 PM

Re: mbc wont work
 
Your wastegate flapper may be stuck also. Try moving the linkage with a pliers.

GnArKiLl 02-06-2008 08:34 PM

Re: mbc wont work
 
ok well i tryed running wg boost and that did not work, it spooled alittle slower but still 20+psi..

Shane@DBPerformance 02-06-2008 09:06 PM

Re: mbc wont work
 
Boost creep, stuck flapper, or bad wastegate actuator.

GnArKiLl 02-06-2008 09:32 PM

Re: mbc wont work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ecoli (Post 227029)
Boost creep, stuck flapper, or bad wastegate actuator.

ok im gonna go check some things ill let you guys know

GnArKiLl 02-07-2008 01:12 AM

Re: mbc wont work
 
well the flapper is not stuck and the actuator seems to be working its not getting stuck or anything.. iv already tryed 2 actuator's but ill try one more.. what would give me such bad boost creep?

Kracka 02-07-2008 06:57 AM

Re: mbc wont work
 
The restrictive stock turbine housing and stock o2 housing with a free-flowing turboback exhaust. Time to do some porting (or upgrade stuff)!

GnArKiLl 02-07-2008 12:34 PM

Re: mbc wont work
 
my hot side is ported

Shane@DBPerformance 02-07-2008 12:38 PM

Re: mbc wont work
 
Is your O2 housing ported for better boost control? What turbo is it? Does it have a stock size flapper on it still?

GnArKiLl 02-07-2008 03:34 PM

Re: mbc wont work
 
in running the 14b... i have the manifold and housing ported but not the o2 housing. still stock flaper

asshanson 02-07-2008 03:51 PM

Re: mbc wont work
 
You could also disconnect the flapper arm from the actuator, that would force the flapper open 100% of the time. I accidentally did this once and I could only get 8 or 9 lbs of boost by redline on my internally gated 20g.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but if it still goes over 20lbs then it's insane boost creep, right? And if boost stays low then the actuator isn't opening the flapper properly?

JET 02-07-2008 03:51 PM

Re: mbc wont work
 
Did this start when you put the new exhaust on? If so, it is just boost creep.

GnArKiLl 02-07-2008 04:05 PM

Re: mbc wont work
 
no it was doing it befor the new exhaust.. befor i had to set the boost controler at almost 0 and it would go to 15-16 psi.....


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