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stikx 06-05-2007 12:29 AM

About the gt35R
 
I like reading up on stuff and making my own assumptions, so I was wondering if I had a GT35R T3 .63 ar with the anti surge cover, will it still surge? Also is an SC61 basically a 60-1 in T3 footprint?

Super Bleeder!! 06-05-2007 12:55 AM

Re: About the gt35R
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stikx (Post 195533)
IAlso is an SC61 basically a 60-1 in T3 footprint?

NO

Goat Blower 06-05-2007 04:40 AM

Re: About the gt35R
 
An SC61 is about one size bigger than a 60-1 wheel.

scheides 06-05-2007 11:58 AM

Re: About the gt35R
 
yup SC61 has a 61mm GT40 (or GT35R if you will) compressor wheel. With the S cover & anti-surge ports you should be fine.

stikx 06-05-2007 12:24 PM

Re: About the gt35R
 
ok got it now 60= 60mm 61 = 61mm but i was wondering what does the 1 stand for in 60-1?

At-Least-It's-An-Evo 06-05-2007 12:37 PM

Re: About the gt35R
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stikx (Post 195566)
ok got it now 60= 60mm 61 = 61mm but i was wondering what does the 1 stand for in 60-1?

a 60 trim doesn't = 60mm
60-1 doesn't = 60mm

the 60-1 is another turbo that it's trim happens to come out to 60. "-1" for differentiation(word?) I believe.

tpunx99GSX 06-05-2007 01:18 PM

Re: About the gt35R
 
The trim of a turbo is:
On the wheel itself take the measurements and do the math.
Trim = (minor diameter / major diameter) ^2 * 100

tpunx99GSX 06-05-2007 01:20 PM

Re: About the gt35R
 
http://www.turbominivan.com/tech/turbo201.htm check it out.

Shane@DBPerformance 06-05-2007 01:31 PM

Re: About the gt35R
 
The 60-1 is an old ass T04B compressor wheel. Not the more efficient wheel ever at high boost. Not bad for a car that runs around 15psi and has a fair amount of displacement(6 or 8 cylinder) or has a good head like a VTEC car. The SC61 uses the 61mm compressor wheel from the GT35R. For most cars, that 61mm comp wheel will not be any laggier than a 60-1, but it will have more power potential. You definately want the anti-surge cover if you have a 2.0l.

tpunx99GSX 06-05-2007 01:41 PM

Re: About the gt35R
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ecoli (Post 195574)
You definately want the anti-surge cover if you have a 2.0l.

Liar, The anti surge cover is just a marketing ploy just like the electric blow off valve, and the anti crank walk cream.
lol jk.

b00stcreep21 06-05-2007 02:24 PM

Re: About the gt35R
 
Anti crank walk cream worked great for me! It also gave me cancer though.... :(

stikx 06-06-2007 12:03 AM

Re: About the gt35R
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Goat Blower (Post 195538)
An SC61 is about one size bigger than a 60-1 wheel.

this is what confused me in thinking that it was 60 mm sorry now i see

stikx 06-06-2007 12:07 AM

Re: About the gt35R
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX (Post 195572)
The trim of a turbo is:
On the wheel itself take the measurements and do the math.
Trim = (minor diameter / major diameter) ^2 * 100

Ok thanks, I always thought that trim = flow (lbs/min...ie: 50 trim = 50 lbs/min 60 trim = 60 lbs/min turbo)

Shane@DBPerformance 06-06-2007 12:38 AM

Re: About the gt35R
 
50-trim ~48 lb/min
54-trim ~45 lb/min
57-trim ~49 lb/min
60-trim ~50 lb/min
60-1 ~57 lb/min
61mm/GT35R ~62-65 lb/mn

You could probably have any of the 50 to 60 trim comp wheels and what exhaust wheel/exhaust housing you had would make a bigger difference in the power if produced and its lag.

The Evo 9 16Gs flow some rediculous amount(for a damn 16g) like 42 lb/min. Going to a 20G on those cars doesn't gain all that much power.

Pushit2.0 06-06-2007 08:14 PM

Re: About the gt35R
 
Its always good to hear people say "ya I got a T3/T4 turbo" and everything has to be an R to be cool. Sizing a turbo can make or break an entire setup, figure out when you want full boost, how much power you want, and how much money you want to spend.

~John

tpunx99GSX 06-07-2007 02:42 PM

Re: About the gt35R
 
Yeah i totally hate it when some guy comes up to you and says "I have a T3/T4 turbo!" then you ask them what trim it is and they say "umm.. i dunno" ok then how much does it flow? "um... a lot" :slaps head:

My personal goal is to max out the 50 trim before i even think about upgrading to a bigger turbo. Hopefully i should be able to max it out with my current setup. then its time to go bigger and try and max that turbo out (whichever turbo that may be, GT42 type R FTW or thumper type R)

Swifty1638 06-12-2007 09:22 PM

Re: About the gt35R
 
I personally don't like the BB turbos-more to plumb, more to go wrong/leak. Also, it's not worth it for the few extra hundo it costs to pay for it. I was hoping that my smaller .58 a/r t4 67 would spool up quicker, and give me a decent powerband. I'm still working out details on it, like a bad clutch, but we will see what actually happens with it. I will use my old scm61 setup as comparison.

-A. Swift


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