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Pimpin Dsmstyle 10-26-2006 12:13 PM

bogging - more more more!
 
91 talon TSI awd. 6/3
3 inch SS o2 elim exhaust
2g maf
255 FP / regulator
MBC set to 11 psi
Eprom ecu

The car had a 16g and FMIC along with all supporting mods needed a few months back. I've been slowly converting to stock. However, the ecu is supposed to be socketed / chipped for 550's or something. The car is back to 450's. I'm getting some crazy bogging in the upper RPMS. I have not yet done a boost test, but it's possible. I'm just wondering if it thinks I'm running 550's and causing an issue?

I'm trying to trade my eprom for a regular ecu + cash since I no longer need it ( back to stock mostly)

scheides 10-26-2006 01:49 PM

Re: bogging - more more more!
 
Ah, if the ECU is programmed for 550's and there's 450's in it, then the car will be running lean, like 20% lean...I'd think about putting the 550's back in or getting a regular ecu back in there before you do too much boosting.

Outlaw1 10-26-2006 02:21 PM

Re: bogging - more more more!
 
Turn the fuel pressure up 8-10psi and see how it drives. Don't keep running it on the lean side or you will melt a piston crown or valve.

Pimpin Dsmstyle 10-26-2006 02:51 PM

Re: bogging - more more more!
 
The motor just got re-done so I can't really hammer on it much anyways. I noticed this while getting off 169 around some twisties on the way home. 14b spools a little sooner than the 16g did :P

My buddy did tamber with the FPR awhile back and it was doing this similar shit even with the Big16G on it. I don't have a fuel pressure gauge or I woulda tampered with it again :( Anyway to safely do this ? I really have no idea what the "stock" settings should be..

xveganxcowboyx 10-26-2006 03:09 PM

Re: bogging - more more more!
 
Do you have a logger? Check to see what your O2 is saying as it's probably lean as hell. I wouldn't drive like that.

I would guess you're getting knock from running so lean, which would result in bogging from timing being pulled.

I'd trade for an eprom, but am pretty much cashless.

Pimpin Dsmstyle 10-26-2006 03:20 PM

Re: bogging - more more more!
 
I'm thinking about doing it "cheap" as Eproms cost about 250.

I was thinking 150 + non eprom. I dont wanna stay out of the boost!!! AHH.

I think it's also the FPR is adjusted out of wack =/ I do not have a logger! I don't attempt to make these things go fast, i just like them stock :P I'm poor otherwise I'd buy a logger and an afc ;/

stock o2 isn't really going to tell me much I don't think. I guess if it's running real lean it would tell me so but I've heard not to trust them :P

Pimpin Dsmstyle 10-27-2006 05:38 PM

Re: bogging - more more more!
 
Oh yea one more thing. The car is venting to atmosphere at the moment.. so it doesn't idle right because of that ( sometimes surge, sometimes it dies) but beyond that, could fuel pressure / ECU reading 550's rather than the actual 450's play a part in this?

xveganxcowboyx 10-27-2006 06:30 PM

Re: bogging - more more more!
 
The combination of those things may very well fuck up plenty.

AwdGSX13 10-28-2006 04:40 PM

Re: bogging - more more more!
 
id look into putting those 550's back in while you wait to get the ecu.

Pimpin Dsmstyle 10-28-2006 08:25 PM

Re: bogging - more more more!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AwdGSX13 (Post 163788)
id look into putting those 550's back in while you wait to get the ecu.

I sold them EZ. I couldn't find a non eprom so I just had LSE re-chip it for 450's. Then I reconnected the vented BOV, zip tied to boost gauge on and now I seem to be good to go!

Soon enough something else will break I promise :P

Now I have to figure out what I'm going to do with my 2g intake =/ It's running me lean since I have no extra fuel control! ahh

xveganxcowboyx 10-28-2006 09:14 PM

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Why was it chipped for 550's if you're already running a 2G MAF?

Pimpin Dsmstyle 10-28-2006 11:28 PM

Re: bogging - more more more!
 
Honestly, I have no idea what was done to the ECU. Everything was done before me or my buddy owned it ( i bought it, sold to my friend, bought it back). I was told what was done to the car and some of it actually was, some of it wasn't. All I know is that I'm told I'm running too lean since I have no fuel control and I'm running a 2g maf. Everything is running great at the moment. I have zero complaints about how this car runs at this time. I do think it uses more fuel than it should though I guess.


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