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95talonracer 08-31-2006 03:25 AM

1g 2g swap complete...Wont start
 
I am finished with the swap but the car wont start. I have done all that i can think of.. any help here? Order of plug wires and where they go on the 1g motor and coils.

blageo23 08-31-2006 07:01 AM

Re: 1g 2g swap complete...Wont start
 
Does it even try and crank over? I had the same problem and I somehow messed up on the CAS. I wired 2 wires wrong.

95talonracer 08-31-2006 09:42 AM

Re: 1g 2g swap complete...Wont start
 
Ya it cranks over. I put the one wire in the rectangle plug and the other three into the triangle plug. Any ideas or hints? Please let me know I need this done. You know how that goes.

95talonracer 08-31-2006 09:45 AM

Re: 1g 2g swap complete...Wont start
 
I used the 1g coils. Should I use the 2g ones and please help me out on the wiring with them.

95talonracer 08-31-2006 11:03 AM

Re: 1g 2g swap complete...Wont start
 
What does everyone suggest for the coils. 1g or 2g for the swap?

scheides 08-31-2006 11:34 AM

Re: 1g 2g swap complete...Wont start
 
Isn't there something that needs to be inverted depending on the year of your car (i.e. especially 95-96). Double & triple check your wiring, that is probably the problem.

95talonracer 08-31-2006 11:53 AM

Re: 1g 2g swap complete...Wont start
 
I did do the wiring with the CAS by wiring in the one wire to the rectangle plug and the other three wires to the triangle plug. It seems like it fires one or 2 cylinders every once and a while but wont start all the way. sorry for the lack of knowledge here and thanks for the help.

elko51racer 08-31-2006 11:54 AM

Re: 1g 2g swap complete...Wont start
 
Have you checked the timing? When i did mine i found the Distributor in 180 degrees off. Its a Easy mistake to miss

95talonracer 08-31-2006 12:06 PM

Re: 1g 2g swap complete...Wont start
 
Do you think that would hapen if I just took off a working head off of a 91 tsi turbo and bolted it right on without any cas removal?

elko51racer 08-31-2006 12:16 PM

Re: 1g 2g swap complete...Wont start
 
i work for a dealership its just something the guys here had me check on my car and it worked so i would ck the timing. Those engines are pretty easy to time as well. Otherwise ck for fuel pressure..

Goat Blower 08-31-2006 01:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by elko51racer
Have you checked the timing? When i did mine i found the Distributor in 180 degrees off. Its a Easy mistake to miss

These cars don't have a distributor, although the CAS can be 180 degrees off.

It sounds like the plug wires are in the wrong order. Looking at the 1G coils, it should go from left to right 4-1-2-3. Cylinder four is the tranny side of the engine.

95talonracer 08-31-2006 05:25 PM

Re: 1g 2g swap complete...Wont start
 
I went through all of this and still nothing. the most ill get is some poofing sound like its coming back through the intake. And sometimes it will try to start but just barely at all. These things frusterate me. Any help is appreciated.

95talonracer 08-31-2006 08:30 PM

Re: 1g 2g swap complete...Wont start
 
Ok so I tryed all of the wiring and fell back to where I was. This must mean that I had it right the first time. It turns over and sputters but just wont go. It no longer puffs or backfires out of the intake so I am sure everything is right. The timing has to be on because the head wasnt messed with off of the new 6 bolt. Also I was thinking can a CAS start to go bad but sputter some times? There is spark as well so I have no clue what is going on here. Any advise is appreciated.

Jakey 08-31-2006 09:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 95talonracer
The timing has to be on because the head wasnt messed with off of the new 6 bolt.

When you purchased the 6 bolt longblock, did you physically see it run to where your above statement can be assumed true?

sleepydsm 08-31-2006 09:31 PM

Re: 1g 2g swap complete...Wont start
 
If you can't get this going by saturday, I'll swing over since I'll be in the area.

95talonracer 09-01-2006 11:46 AM

Re: 1g 2g swap complete...Wont start
 
Ok so I have wired everything right. I have spark, fuel, and car wants to try and fire a bit but no start. Could the CAS be shot where is gives a spark but doesnt run? Help here please.

scheides 09-01-2006 11:54 AM

Re: 1g 2g swap complete...Wont start
 
Yes, I'd try another CAS. Mine went out once when I got some water on it.

95talonracer 09-01-2006 11:57 AM

Re: 1g 2g swap complete...Wont start
 
Did it make it kind of want to start but just didnt. And did it also have spark?

95talonracer 09-01-2006 04:20 PM

Re: 1g 2g swap complete...Wont start
 
Well is there anyone that has a CAS that I can use for a few minutes to test it out?

95talonracer 09-01-2006 05:30 PM

Re: 1g 2g swap complete...Wont start
 
Ok so I rechecked the timing and that is right on. The CAS is right on as well. I was trying to start it for a bit and noticed that the manifold was warm after a few minutes. Remember the car doesnt start but just parely trys to fire. Any ideas for this?


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