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FattyBoomBatty 02-08-2006 06:00 PM

new valve springs - thinner than old
 
I just got my new "heavy duty" valve springs in the mail, opened the package and checked them out. They looked a little thin from what I remembered, so i compared them to the ones on the head in my garage and it do indeed look thinner than the stock ones.

Should this concern me? There was a label on the box that i'm sure the guy I bought them from scratched off, but it says pressure 100lbs. So, i believe they are the 100lb springs, and they fit in the retainers.

thanks.

carltalon 02-08-2006 06:15 PM

Re: new valve springs - thinner than old
 
I think my Crowers look a little thiner then the stock ones. what brand are they suposed to be.

EclipseGST 02-08-2006 06:16 PM

Re: new valve springs - thinner than old
 
Take them somewhere to check what pressure they are. Are the coil diameter smaller, like the thickness of the metal or is the overall size smaller?

FattyBoomBatty 02-08-2006 07:03 PM

Re: new valve springs - thinner than old
 
I think they are schneider, that's the only brand i've heard of that makes replacment/upgrade springs specifically for the car. the diameter or the spring coil, not the overall diameter is what is thinner.

niterydr 02-08-2006 09:03 PM

Re: new valve springs - thinner than old
 
Thinner spring diameter would mean a higher coil bind number.
If you are really worried have them tested at different seat heights.

FattyBoomBatty 02-08-2006 09:44 PM

Re: new valve springs - thinner than old
 
Yeah, i was talking to my cousin about that and he suggested taking it to a machine shop and having them tested, but if i post on SQC and see if anyone else has these and hasn't had any problems, might I be able to just toss them on? thing is, I'm not going with higher lift, it's stock valvetrain, so it should be like stock.

niterydr 02-08-2006 09:54 PM

Re: new valve springs - thinner than old
 
If they are weaker a valve could hang up and kiss a piston.
Not a pretty match.
If they are too stiff you are wasting horsepower on drivetrain.

FattyBoomBatty 02-08-2006 09:59 PM

Re: new valve springs - thinner than old
 
that's why they are only 100 lb springs :) slightly stiffer than stock, it'll give me peace of mind at 6500 rpm. :)

Jakey 02-08-2006 10:52 PM

Re: new valve springs - thinner than old
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FattyBoomBatty
that's why they are only 100 lb springs

Keep in mind that that force is going to increase as the spring is compressed: F=-kx where x is the distance and k is your spring constant.

CVD 02-09-2006 12:07 AM

Re: new valve springs - thinner than old
 
Yeah....but conquests cant eat valves can they? Why dont you toss em in and see where valve float is.

Shotgun! 02-09-2006 12:34 AM

Re: new valve springs - thinner than old
 
LMAO! Nice kill, CVD! JAKEY GOT PWONDEDOBNDDVNVONED!!!!11!!!1!1!one!

Pushit2.0 02-09-2006 09:59 AM

Re: new valve springs - thinner than old
 
We have a valve spring lb gauge. We could test your springs, give you how many lbs of pressure at this spring height.

~John

JET 02-09-2006 11:38 AM

Re: new valve springs - thinner than old
 
A thinner spring doesn't necessarily mean a lower pressure. They are likely using a better material than the truck engine originally had :D I agree, put them in and let er rip.

niterydr 02-09-2006 11:48 AM

Re: new valve springs - thinner than old
 
I personally would test them before install, doing shit twice is a waste of time. Odds are that they are a better material, but the odds are also in the favor of someone being struck by lightening before winning a lottery ;).

FattyBoomBatty 02-09-2006 03:18 PM

Re: new valve springs - thinner than old
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JET
A thinner spring doesn't necessarily mean a lower pressure. They are likely using a better material than the truck engine originally had :D I agree, put them in and let er rip.


that's what's been going around in circles in my head. thanks for the good advice! i knew i shouldn't have listened to those anoka boys up at LSD! ;)

niterydr 02-09-2006 03:44 PM

Re: new valve springs - thinner than old
 
Maple Grove.

FattyBoomBatty 02-10-2006 05:03 PM

Re: new valve springs - thinner than old
 
Same difference.

FattyBoomBatty 02-11-2006 06:39 PM

Re: new valve springs - thinner than old
 
OMG, guess i should have checked the innernet before putting it back together. I got the valves installed, it wasn't too bad, i made my own spring compressor out of a couple peices of wood, then leaned on 'em. good thing I'm not a twig, but too bad I didn't have swanny over ;)

anyway, the stock hydraulic lifters were made for late model valves (i got '83 style - longer) so the valves don't close all the way. luckily, someone is always selling a set of mechanical rockers. so i'll have it all ready to go by the time i get the required gaskets.

PEACE!


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