Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

Picts for fun

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

Well after discussing with justin on tuners about rebuilding my 7 blade hx35w. My wife actually told me to find another one just in case....get an answer like that and well you just say yes dear and be grateful.

So anyrate was between a used fp black and hx40

And ended up with the hx40 in the bep55 housing. Has 10 track passes on it. Owner got deployed and while he was gone had his motor built and upgrades to fpsuper99

I didnt want to change manifolds or 02housing so this worked for me. I wasn't looking to max out the turbo si the bep housing is fine.

Im still sending my hx35 to be rebuilt. So ill get a comparison between the two and then keep the one I like best amd sell the other one.
they are both 7 blade turbos.

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

Well the new turbo arrived hxsuper40 in the bep housing.

Look forward to getting it hopefully installed this weekend. Before little man shows up anyday now.

I also got the clips ordered that I needed to put the stock side skirts on the car.

I painted them along with the front bumper last weekend. But it has been raining, followed by heavy polin which turns everything green around here, ever since so i haven't gotten a chance to take pictures

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

So had a bit of a disheartening find over the weekend.

So I know I've been finding little things that lead me to believe my car actually started as a talon and not an eclipsr that the previous claimed.

And now im even questioning if it even started life as turbo car at all.
I had painted my sideskirtsnand front bumper a few weeks ago. And i just needed the clips to install the side skirts. So I ordered all the clips I needed to install the side skirts and they arrived last week.

Previously i had only done mock ups as I didnt have any pushpin and just put bolts in the ends to hold them in place.

Long story short driver side I found the holes drilled for the push pins dont line 100% hopefully enough do.

So for the first time I went to check the passengerside. Amd low and behold there isn't a single hole for side skirts on that side at all.

And from what I've found so far seems only the rs model came with out side skirts?

And my other bad luck I had over the weekend was my new turbo super hx40(10 track passes then wad parked owner was deployed). It came with broken studs in the exhaust housing. And although I had luck drilling them out. On one of th holes when I went to use my rethread tool it wouldn't turn either way when I was 3/4 way down, i snapped it iff in the hole trying to back it out. And so far nothing I have seems to be able to drill that out.
So I went ahead and just ordered another bep exhaust housing.

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

N/A cars had the neon motor, totally different motor mounts. Haha I just had a funny thought of your car having a turbo 420a in it.
And your title should tell you if your car started life as an Eagle or Mitsubishi. And should also specify the trim level. You can find out all the info by the VIN.

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

your car would have been a turbo to start with. if it was a na 420a the engine would have sat the other way same as a evo. you can not swap a 4g63 dsm motor into a na 2g with out a ton of work.


****add on: looked at all the pics of your car it is a 2gb talon with eclipse bumpers on it. the doors and qt. panels have the holes in them for the side strakes. 97-98 2gb talons did not come with side skirts on them since they had the side strakes.****

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

the only way to get a broken tap out is to brake it apart chisel and hammer or diamond bits to grind it out. done it a lot of times both ways to fix turbo housings for guys

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

What does the title say it is? Does the VIN number on the dash match with other places on the car? If a door doesn't have the mounting holes, that door could've easily been replaced in the past with a base model door.

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

Yep, exactly right. I have a set of core pins I use for breaking them out (punch press pins). They do make diamond bits you can use in a die grinder that will work. The biggest issue there is not messing up the threads that are in there already too badly. I would try breaking it out first. Big whacks since the tap is strong but brittle.

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

Depending on how much more money in have to spend getting the car running again.

Might send you my old housing to fix / finish. So hopefully I can sell it and get some money back.

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

This is the other thing that has since raised questions. I know the dash gauges have been swapped out.

The doors do not have holes for the lower plastic panels that the eclipses had.

Only the side slash holes or what ever they are called the talon came with.

And as far as the vin goes the only vin still left that I've found is on the dash. I never ran a vin check on the car figured for the price and what my intentions for the car I was willing to skip it. (Supposed to be just a weekend / track car not really my full time daily.)

But after changing n my interior to black and everything else im finding (maybe im just to paranoid now) but looks like maybe the dash vin was swapped. It looks like its held on with I think they are called rivets.

Which maybe standard I cant remember what my old cars looked like.

And the title does state eclipse gsx.

But I even asked about that. You're supposed to tell the dmv if you change colors of your car and if you changed body styles. Ie like eclipse to talon etc. Probably has to do with , if a cop runs your tags what the descriptions comes up like

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

Title states GSX? That is so odd... is the title clean? Steering wheel is even a talon wheel. I would run a carfax on it and see what it shows. Maybe you have a swapped chassis or something else is going on.

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

Dash VIN is held on by rivets, so that is right. I would do like Peter said and run a carfax on it.

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

Dash VIN is held on with rivets, but not that hard to swap dashes.

There should be a vin etched into the firewall, look at that. Each body panel should have a vin tag on it as well.

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

The previous owner actually bought the airbag from tkrperformance on here.

But so far all other normal vins are gone but ill keep looking.

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/imag...de-80056_2.jpg

This shows where most VINs are located on vehicles. Strange that you are missing some.

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

re-looked at all the pics of your car it is a more likely a 2gb talon with eclipse bumpers on it. the doors and qt. panels have the holes in them for the side strakes. 97-98 2gb talons did not come with side skirts on them since they had the side strakes. so no holes for side skirts or holes in the bottom of the doors for the door caps

way to check quick.

if the mounts for the rear bumper were moved up. they are welded on. talon bumpers brackets are low and eclipse are high.
eclipse spots
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o...915_163254.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o...915_153136.jpg
after I moved them for the talon.
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o...915_160759.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o...915_163244.jpg
you would be able to see if the mounts were moved since they are spot welded to the car and have to be drilled off and re mounted to the high spots for the eclipse. I have also seen guys not bolt the center and use long bolts and spacers on the sides to mount eclipse rear on a talon.

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

So the "new" hx40 bep housing showed up from extremepsi.com

And im not impressed. The two gaskets I ordered with it were bent to shit as they were just tossed in a zip lock bag and put in the box with the housing. I did what I could to try to flatten them out.

And then moved onto the housing and the casting looks like crap.
There are 3 holes in the housing where they drilled to far and went all the way through to the inside of the housing.

Where they flattened out the parts you bolt the housing to the manifold and o2 housing they didnt fill the metal off the edges so there's sharp crap everywhere. Even on the inside.

Looks like someone used a Drexel tool to try to clear some of it and it got away from them and skipped the bit across the side of it.

Posting picts, tell me what you think. Anyone with experience with these housing please let me know of this is normal and I nees to do the clean up myself or should I just return it amd ask for an exchange.

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

That bullseye performance stuff, quality.
Seriously though, those pics make it look like total crap. Good luck figuring it out, hopefully extreme psi is good to work with.

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

the outer side i wouldnt mind (mostly covered anyways once installed) however the 3 freak'n holes where they drilled to far really pisses me off, how do you not catch that crap.

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

Is that hole in the exhaust inlet on the first pic from a stud/bolt hole? If so, wow.
I guess it probably won't affect performance really since it'll be sealed, but that's just bad.

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

I just took off my old housing and compared - they are night and day difference.

the one that was on my HX40 - is near flawless, even the out color is 1 solid color and all the casting is removed to look smooth.

The one I just got looks like a child was working on it.

The 2 holes on the exhaust Inlet are where they drilled holes that hold the turbo to the exhaust housing so ya it would be mostly sealed as those 2 bolts wont be removed.

the 3rd hole actually is the same bolt as the first 2 only it creates a bump right in the middle of the channel.

i'll take side by side photos and post in a sec

edit: just noticed on the "new" one looks like they took maybe an HX35 housing and drilled it out, and it also looks like maybe it was used and a fan blade hit the edges - picts to follow

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

Here are picts of old /new

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

Yeah i would definitely try and get a replacement, sucks you will have to wait and deal with sending that one back. Extremepsi has always been really easy to work with for me, i'm sure they will take care of it for you.

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

Return that piece of shit

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

The old one looks nicer than the new one. I'd try and return it also.

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

The old one only has 10 track passes and dyno time on it.

But the quality difference is huge. I talked with extreme today they asked me to send pictures
and they'll discuss it with bep and assured me they'll take care of the issue.

So only time will tell..

In the mean time back to working on my old housing. Brought it to work today in the hopes I can get one of them maintenance guys to fix it. A few of them used to race cars in there day so hopefully we can sneak it into the machine shop and take care of it.

In which case ill just ask for a refund for the new one.

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

Well update.

Sent pictures off to extreme last nighr but didnt have any reply today

Maintenance was able to knock out the broken tap yesterday however the one size they were out of warranty 10m x 1.25 taps. So after checking every auto parts in my town and the one next to me as well as Lowe's. I finally found it at a "fastenal" store.

So far today maintenance is working on the last hole now or was till he got called to fix our pos stretch wrapper. He leaves in 45min so hopefully he'll have time to finish before he leaves.

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

Update - back in business. The last one took some skill to get out. Thank goodness I work for a multi million dollar company with a huge shop on site. And beer money in hand goes a long way here in the south lol.

Hopefully everything will bolt back up will attempt it tomorrow

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

Oh the joys of owning a dsm.

So yesterday I finish installing the new hx40. Every thing went together perfectly.

And decided to take the car to work today....when....

On my way into work, I was taking it easy on the car as I just finished working on it and at about 4 miles from work I'm cruising along doing 40mph, which probably saved my life.

A young blonde women who looked like she was texting and driving or picking something up in the passenger seat. Started slowly creeping into my lane, then she drastically swerved into my lane. And now she is completely head on coming at me in my lane. I grab the ditch and she's now still coming over she's hit the rumble strips on my shoulder which got her to look up. She get 2 tires off in my shoulder and we are less then 3 Car lengths away and she swerved back into my lane. Missing my car by inches.

And stupid bitch didnt even get back in her own lane or slow down, she stayed in my lane for at least another 1/4 mile before getting back into hers before going around a blind corner.

And now my car is smoking like crazy. Pretty sure I dented the oil pan.but didnt get a chance to take a good look.

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

Oh and yes that is a bird feather in the fmic. Haven't found the bird yet either

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

Damn man, scary stuff glad youre alright and the car made it out, mostly unscathed

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

Wow, glad to see it wasn't worse. Talk about bad luck though, hopefully the smoking issue is an easy fix.

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

So she didn't stop or anything, just kept going on her merry way like nothing happened? That's shitty man.

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

If the oil pan is dented don't drive it, You will likely starve the engine of oil as the pickup is right there. Glad you made it out without an accident!

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

Got under the car today and Oil pan is toast its dented really bad as well as leaking from the gasket (havent taken if off yet to see if the bolt holes to the block are messed up) there is oil that starts at my return line and it covers pretty much the entire length of my underbellow. by the time I got home I was sitting at 15psi on my aem gauge, and when I checked the dipstick there was maybe a 1qt of oil left.
I also noticed my bumper pushed up against my FMIC and dented a bunch of fins but I dont see any holes or anything really major other then dented fins.

So Moroso Oil pan will be purchased sooner then I planned along with upgrading my 10an drain to 12an(guy gave me the part for the turbo I just dont have the line or fitting to weld to the oil pan atm. But still might be a while till I do this. Wife is on her way to doctors now to see about being induced later this week (my father birthday is this saturday, and I've asked her to see if Sat is possible) so everything will get put on hold for a while if the doctors say its ok.

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

Sorry to hear, that's pretty disappointing after going through that mess to begin with, then to have this happen... unbelievable. I imagine she didn't pull over to apologize? Or better yet to make sure everything is okay?

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

No she actaully pulled back into my lane and kept driving in my lane for probably another 1/4 mile before moving back into her lane.

I had the thought that she might have been foreign or something (I've met a few people living here that were from London). I mean normally you'd try get back in your lane after something like that not get back in the wrong lane.

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

You going to report this incident to insurance?

Re: 1997 GSX - DD, RR, and 11's.
 

Nope. damage is far less then what my rates would go up, and after deductable would almost be pointless.


But side note - wife went into labor during her Doctors visit today, we are home waiting for contractions to get closer together. Almost had the same birthday as Nash looks like we're going to miss it by a day