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niterydr 04-27-2012 10:12 AM

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to put it in perspective.....

Kracka 04-27-2012 10:22 AM

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^nice!

niterydr 04-27-2012 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 405148)
^nice!

Quick formatting error on my part, I should have staged the table out below intake/exhaust/intake/exhaust, I can re-upload if Chris wants to use the table for anything.

v8klla 04-27-2012 10:39 AM

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Sure I could put it on the site, thanks!

niterydr 04-27-2012 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by v8klla (Post 405150)
Sure I could put it on the site, thanks!

Done, and you've got a pm.

turbotalon1g 04-27-2012 11:46 AM

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That is fucking insane. DSM option?

v8klla 04-27-2012 11:53 AM

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We can certainly perform the same service to DSM or Evo 8 & 9 :)

Revobasher 04-27-2012 12:10 PM

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that head is sick!!

evotuner 04-27-2012 11:15 PM

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this is why map is worldwide baby

v8klla 05-01-2012 10:36 AM

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And it begins :)

http://www.maperformance.com/hosted/...2/IMAG0426.jpg

v8klla 09-17-2012 04:06 PM

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Lot's of updates coming soon :)

http://www.maperformance.com/hosted/...ounts-evox.jpg

Murlo26 09-17-2012 04:19 PM

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Ooooo, I like updates.

Chris, I was hoping for a turbo picture but maybe that is soon to follow :)

Ps. I think I will need help from you mounting a GTX3576 over the winter.

v8klla 09-17-2012 05:24 PM

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Soon enough :) Mounting a GTX3576 to what car? lol

Murlo26 09-17-2012 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by v8klla (Post 414298)
Soon enough :) Mounting a GTX3576 to what car? lol

Evo....changed my mind on the z06, too much effort into the evo :)

goodhart 09-17-2012 11:37 PM

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What is that? Some solution to the pulley issue X's have?

twisted954 09-18-2012 12:57 AM

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Motor mounts =)

10EVO 10-17-2012 11:10 PM

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Looks like an awesome build! Looking forward to seeing where this goes.

v8klla 11-12-2012 05:56 PM

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Well this has been a long time coming as my little project always seems to find itself on the back burner lol. Long story short, by combining some additional displacement with our EF4 turbocharger we've created what I believe to be the ultimate daily driver. 5000+ miles on the engine already, 60+ miles round trip daily, and no plans to put her to sleep for the upcoming MN winter ;)

4th Gear - 603whp / 503wtq / Full Boost ~3300rpms


3rd Gear Comparison to Stock Turbo


A sincere thanks to the following sponsors that contributed to this project:

Advanced Clutch Technology (ACT)
AEM Performance Electronics
Boomba Racing
Extreme Turbo Systems
Fuel Injector Clinic
Grimmspeed
GSC Power Division
Manley Performance
Turbosmart
Wiseco


Updated modification list:

MAP Rev2 3.5" Short Ram Intake
MAP EF4 Turbocharger (Dual Wastegate Configuration)
MAP Upper Intercooler Pipe *Coming Soon*
Extreme Turbo Systems 4" Intercooler
Turbosmart Dual Port Blow Off Valve
Stock Throttle Body
MAP Rev3 Ported Intake Manifold
MAP Stage 5 Cylinder Head Port & Polish
- GSC S2 Camshafts
- GSC Beehive Valve Springs and Retainers
- Supertech Black Nitride Intake / Inconel Exhaust Valves
MAP Stage 2 2.4L Shortblock
- Manley I Beam Connecting Rods
- ACL Race Main & Rod Bearings
- Custom Wiseco HD Pistons
- Darton Sleeves
MAP Ported & Polished Exhaust Manifold
MAP O2 Eliminator Downpipe
Turbosmart CompGate40 Wastegate
MAP Test Pipe
MAP Varex Catback Exhaust
ACT Sprung 6 Puck Clutch Kit
ACT Streetlite Flywheel
Jack's Transmisstions Diff Pin Upgrade Service
Custom Aeromotive A1000 Fuel Pump
Custom MAP Fuel Feed Line
Boomba Racing Fuel Rail
Fuel Injector Clinic 2150cc Injectors
MAP AFPR Kit with Fuelab Regulator
SSP Catch Can
AEM X-Wifi Wideband
Grimmspeed Manual Boost Controller

v8klla 11-12-2012 05:58 PM

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Reserved

cudvig 11-12-2012 06:16 PM

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Car is fat.

-Colin

turbotalon1g 11-12-2012 06:32 PM

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Nice powerband, that motor needs to get swapped into something!

DSM...

Halon 11-12-2012 07:13 PM

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Kick-ass powerband for sure.

scheides 11-12-2012 07:26 PM

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Full boost at 3300rpm is amazing on an ef4! Can you elaborate on the dual wastegate setup you're running now?

And still on stock exhaust manifold? Awesome!

HDG6 FTW!

Also what's with the A1000 fuel pump? Stock hanger or are you running a surge tank setup?

Also y u no 3-port bcs? I love the simplicity of a MBC but going to a hybrid setup helped my top end a ton!

Goat Blower 11-12-2012 07:50 PM

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Wow! Those are the kind of numbers I like these days. Looks like a sick street car!

Constant_Project21 11-12-2012 08:41 PM

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Looks like that engine/turbo combo is right in the sweet spot. Damn near the same spool with tad bit more power ;). Ill have to remember to ride with you to lunch here soon haha.

evotuner 11-12-2012 11:47 PM

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That is just nasty

Murlo26 11-13-2012 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 418250)
Full boost at 3300rpm is amazing on an ef4! Can you elaborate on the dual wastegate setup you're running now?

And still on stock exhaust manifold? Awesome!

HDG6 FTW!

Also what's with the A1000 fuel pump? Stock hanger or are you running a surge tank setup?

Also y u no 3-port bcs? I love the simplicity of a MBC but going to a hybrid setup helped my top end a ton!

I believe the dual wastegate setup is simply the compgate40 external wg on their downpipe in conjunction with the internal gate on the ef4. Basically, use the internal to keep twinscroll, then let external control after wg pressure opens internal for max boost holding.

I saw the A1000 he is using, its pretty cool, wish they could get all the bugs worked out. It's a camaro fuel pump drop in hangar that they modified. Last I spoke with Chris he was going to do something like my setup, but I am sure thats last on his list of things to change at this point.

Awesome looking setup Chris!

Kracka 11-13-2012 11:14 AM

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Pretty badass build! May I ask why you're using FIC injectors rather than your own? any plans to add a ported throttle body?

Mark Leasure 11-13-2012 01:18 PM

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Awesome power and turbo response for a daily car.

v8klla 11-13-2012 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 418250)
Full boost at 3300rpm is amazing on an ef4! Can you elaborate on the dual wastegate setup you're running now?

And still on stock exhaust manifold? Awesome!

HDG6 FTW!

Also what's with the A1000 fuel pump? Stock hanger or are you running a surge tank setup?

Also y u no 3-port bcs? I love the simplicity of a MBC but going to a hybrid setup helped my top end a ton!

Like Murlo said, straight boost source to internal to preserve spool (nearly 1000 rpms lost with only external) and boost control to the external gate. Also as stated, drop in Camaro pump modified for Evo X tank, still has fuel level issues to sort out. Also, I do still have the stock EBCS in line, just haven't gotten a chance to dabble with dual boost controllers however it isn't dropping off too bad.

v8klla 11-13-2012 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 418276)
Pretty badass build! May I ask why you're using FIC injectors rather than your own? any plans to add a ported throttle body?

Been running these since before our injectors, FIC has always had our back in regards to projects and race cars, great company. Throttle body would be an interesting before and after! lol

93gtpeater 11-13-2012 03:56 PM

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It would interesting to see dyno sheet over lay of this car and murlos car. you guys are close in power.

scheides 11-13-2012 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by v8klla (Post 418286)
Like Murlo said, straight boost source to internal to preserve spool (nearly 1000 rpms lost with only external) and boost control to the external gate. Also as stated, drop in Camaro pump modified for Evo X tank, still has fuel level issues to sort out. Also, I do still have the stock EBCS in line, just haven't gotten a chance to dabble with dual boost controllers however it isn't dropping off too bad.

LOL thats the goodiest shit ive ever heard of! I love it!

I say go back to just internal gate.

Kracka 11-14-2012 08:02 AM

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Boost control sounds way more complicated than it needs to be :lol: Two wastegates and three boost controllers (1 MBC & 2 electronic solenoids)...

I would like to see how just an internal Turbosmart WGA with a Grimspeed 3-port BCS does.

v8klla 11-14-2012 09:25 AM

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Yea it is a bit of a headache lol, but internal with MBC should perform similarly.

niterydr 11-14-2012 09:32 AM

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Great powerband Chris.
Excellent work MAP crew.

Murlo26 11-14-2012 09:58 AM

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Well although it may be overcomplicated, the boost control works. I think straight 3port (or 4 port) is the way to go, but I don't think the dual wastegates is a bad idea, I have seen that make more power over just internal. It overspins the turbo yes, but if you want max power, do it.

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Originally Posted by 93gtpeater (Post 418289)
It would interesting to see dyno sheet over lay of this car and murlos car. you guys are close in power.

I tried using fotoflexer to overlay mine from the dynoday and chris's 4th gear pull. Fotoflexer wasn't working...I was going to post in my thread as to not clog this up. I guess if someone is feeling bored by all means do the overlay. Maybe overlay mine, scheides and chris's for 2.0l vs 2.2 vs 2.4 (really 2.5 I think). Might be really clogged though with all the dynoday runs, would be better to do it at MAP on their comp.

Kracka 11-14-2012 10:03 AM

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MAP needs the same online dyno database that Cobb has.

turbotalon1g 11-14-2012 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 418307)
Well although it may be overcomplicated, the boost control works. I think straight 3port (or 4 port) is the way to go, but I don't think the dual wastegates is a bad idea, I have seen that make more power over just internal. It overspins the turbo yes, but if you want max power, do it.



I tried using fotoflexer to overlay mine from the dynoday and chris's 4th gear pull. Fotoflexer wasn't working...I was going to post in my thread as to not clog this up. I guess if someone is feeling bored by all means do the overlay. Maybe overlay mine, scheides and chris's for 2.0l vs 2.2 vs 2.4 (really 2.5 I think). Might be really clogged though with all the dynoday runs, would be better to do it at MAP on their comp.

How do the 2 WG's overspin the turbo? Because it's holding more psi?

Kracka 11-14-2012 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 418309)
How do the 2 WG's overspin the turbo? Because it's holding more psi?

Yup, higher boost in the higher RPM's.


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