Hey guys. To start the topic, I've already owned a 2G GS-T, that I sold after one month of having. Well, I'm back in the market for a DSM, only this time, a 1G. I'm trying to find something cheap, so I'll prolly end up with a FWD, which isn't entirely bad, considering I don't street race. The stock 2G that I had got horrible traction, and it was stock. I was wondering how a 1G FWD with a 20G or something in that range would do with tire spin. I've read about people spinning up to 80 some MPH with this combo. I would be racing at Rock Falls, and using slicks or drag radials. Thanks for any input. Noah

my roomate runs a big 16 with dragradials. It spinns in first, but he can hookup in 2nd if he wants

I wouldn't suggest it at all. Anything FWD = Total waste of money. Get an AWD, don't make the same mistake twice.

Go AWD. If you plan to do anything other that a totally stock GS-T, go AWD.
By the way did I mention "Go AWD"?

Umm... I'm feeling an over whelming majority here. On a side note, what would the minumin engine compression that you would comsider boosting (beyond 300 whp). Is 140 out of the range? Thanks. Noah

140's not the greatest, but not the worst.

140 is getting tired but it will still run fine... just might smoke a little. Will need rings and such in the future. It wont last as long with bad compression and a 20g.

That's what I figured. I would like to build up a block anyways before going to a 20G size turbo. Modding isn't in the near future, more of a summer time thing. I will be staying in Eau Claire, so dragging would be a weekly or bi-weekly thing for me, as long as the car is up to it (knock on wood). What type of pistons would you guys use for a build up? I'm not planning on breaking the 500 whp mark, but want to make sure that the engine would last. I have heard bad things about JE pistons, and know that evo8 pistons have held up to 505 (or 550) WHP. I would also plan on auto-xing the car if that matters. I've been a domestic guy for the last eight months or so, but have always kept up with DSM's and other sport compacts. Thanks for all of the help. Noah

2g pistons or Wiseco's or Ross. EVO8 pistons won't work.

I will be running a 20G on my '94 FWD this year...for the past 2 years I have had a Big 16G. Personally...I really like my FWD, its a lot more fun in the corners. You will get massive wheel-spin at the track in a FWD so don't buy it as a 1/4 mile monster. I spun through 2nd on pump gas with the B16G...I am expecting 3rd to be a waste this upcoming year. Anyways, the better gas mileage is deffinately nice, and if you are looking for a freeway beast FWD is the way to go.

By the time you put in a Quaife and some really sticky tires on the front, you could've just had an AWD. I've driven my car a couple times in FWD mode and it'll spin the tires easily at anything under 90 mph even in 3rd and 4th gear. It also jerks to the right when the tires break loose. I've got a little more than a 20G though. :banana:

I ran a 20G on my FWD 2G. It wasn't all that fun, so I bought an AWD, or two.

Alright, thanks guys. I was hoping to get some responses from people with that setup, so that's cool. I think I have enough money for an AWD, so if I can find one that suites me, I'll pick it up. Also, thanks for the piston info ecoli. I would have elite tune it also. Noah

i had a 1g fwd w/a 20g, it was by far the gheyest car i've ever owned. wheelhop owned me on several occasions.

Joe, you got wheel-hop cuz you didn't have anything to stop it. I get no wheel-hop with my setup, but I might be crazy.

Yeah right. A stock 2g fwd gets wheel hop in second gear. This is remy's car with an intake only.

Are you attempting to argue with me about my car? If you are please tell me which products that I have purchased to help elimate wheel-hop are not working, thank you, this will be most beneficial.

I dont know your car but I know a slow ass 2g can wheel hop easily. This is the same 2g (intake, 15-14psi) that lost to a 95 tsi awd (stock) from a 55-110 roll. The 96 GST had 160 across the board for compression while the AWD had shitty compression (up and down across the cylinders). That is a f-ed up 2g and it can still wheel hop easily in 3rd.

After buying your suspension, LSD, and installing it all, wouldn't it have been alot cheaper to go AWD in the first place?

What did your non-wheel hop setup run 1/4? (16g and FMIC)

I didn't care about the cost, I bought the car that I wanted (which was actually just as expensive as the AWD's at the time). The first DSM that I ever owned was a GSX and I just didn't like driving the AWD for some reason...I think the car just felt more sluggish due to weight and had a lot more push in the corners. I am sorry to hear that your buddy's car is a POS, but I really don't see how that relates to this dilema. My car is heavily modded, his, well, isn't. To help eliminate the wheel hop, the Prothane motor-mounts, full coilover suspension with adjustable shocks, and sudo-LSD all came into play.