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Are your headlights smoked now too? Or is that just lighting and you using Instagram or something.

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All pics are unedited with no filters, only modification on the entire car at this point is the grille vinyl :)

The headlights are likely a result of lighting and reflections.

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First major roadtrip = DONE!

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Dallas - St. Louis - Madison - Chicago - Dallas

Besides for some very heavy stop & go traffic getting to downtown Chicago, the trip went great! I kept the cruise control set at 85 MPH most the way. The car was comfortable enough with no complaints! The nav system did great with the traffic & weather updates as well, and the gas prices along the route was helpful too when deciding where to refuel (which luckily wasn't often due to the MPG and tank size).

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The awesomeness is overflowing with this one.

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Woowoo! Epic road trip dude! That is a lot of miles on that beast already; you're putting it through the paces!

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Yeah, not bad for only 3 months :D

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nice mpg

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Dealerships are retarded.

This is now time #2 the engine oil has been over-filled...once is unacceptable, twice is plain ridiculous. Chevy has a real problem on their hands because this is happening nationwide with the C7 Z51. Long story short, the dealership techs either don't know how to properly check the oil level in a dry sump system, or they aren't taking the time (per the owner's manual, its a 10 minute process) required. Numerous cars, including mine, are requiring return trips to the dealership and replacement parts under warranty due to this. Rather than fixing the problem myself I'm holding them responsible so it is all documented in case a problem ever arises in the future from it.

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hell, you have a warranty actually, use it I say!

It is a pain in the butt to keep driving back there and wasting time on morons but I think you have the right idea.

Sucks that they have dumb people working on this. Don't they let actual techs work on these? Or have c7 certified techs? I know mitsu had only 1 or 2 people at each dealer who were the only people qualified to work on evos.

Are they just letting lube tech high school kids do this or something?

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Only Stingray-certified techs are supposed to be touching C7's no matter how big or small the job; I plan to raise this question when I'm there later today.

With the dry sump, to check the oil level, the car needs to be warmed to full operating temp (175F+), shut off, wait 5 minutes, check level on dipstick, wait another 5 minutes, final check on dipstick. The goal with the dry sump is to be about halfway between the min & max marks.

Non-Z51 models have a traditional wet sump oil system that requires no special procedure.

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So did they fill past the max mark? How does one even screw that up.

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What a pain. Interesting to see the out come of this.

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Yeah, it at least a quart over the max line. Not even close to being correct.

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I'll tell you exactly the outcome, this non-trained non-professional garage DIYer will be watching over the shoulder of the supposed trained/certified technician requiring proof that it was properly filled. How degrading and embarrassing for them.

I will say, besides for this oil issue on my car I have been very happy with the service and work of this dealership. They did quite a bit to my dad's C6 before he flew down, they performed my alignment under warranty, they checked my rear diff fluid level at my request, and they did a very thorough job of cleaning up the mess the first time my car puked up oil due to over-fill.

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Full operating temp meaning coolant temp? I don't think oil is up to operating temp in 5 minutes.

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It needs to be shutoff for 5 min, not run for 5 min.

I take mine in to the dealership since I am under warranty too. Might as well!

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Coolant temp.
Exactly. My first 4 oil changes are provided by Chevy and I'm going to angle to get the 5th covered by the dealership due to this hassle. With ~10 qts of oil capacity, I'll take it...it's on them to get it right :)

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Drrrp, reading comprehension fails me again.

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The return visit was still a miserable failure...still over-full, but at least only by about 1/4 quart this time unlike the first attempt which was a full quart over. I've taken the problem directly to Chevrolet/GM, they've discussed with the dealership, and they will be getting their engineers involved to ensure it does not happen again. I just spoke with the service department manager and he will be having his shop foreman work with the engineers to ensure it's done correctly this time around, give me a loaner/rental, cover all gas & tolls, and refuel my car to help make up for the two return trips for a seemingly simple task.

I'm not thrilled, but at least they are making an effort to get it corrected and make me satisfied.

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Wow

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Damn, that is some serious stuff to get an oil change done.

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WTF, actually? Good on GM for standing up for their customers when their dealer's minions can't even stand up period.

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Im just so confused.

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Turning into quite the expensive oil change for them! Each of the three changes has and will include all new oil and filters. It's ridiculous, but Chevy is taking this very seriously, as they should considering they designed this car to attract new buyers, many of whom have never purchased domestic before. You lose those customers now and they're gone for good. I think part of the reason they're taking it so seriously is it is not an isolated incident, it's happening all over the country and causing numerous warranty claims. Either Chevy needs to revise the stated oil capacity to be lower [again] or better train the dealerships on the complexities of a dry-sump oil system.

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I just don't understand how difficult it seemingly is to follow a few simple instructions.

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What kind of oil does it get?

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Mind blown. They are a dealership, not a Jiffy Lube, and their "certified" techs still can't perform a simple oil change?

Good on you for getting in touch with GM. I would be beyond furious.

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ACDelco Dexos1 semi-synthetic 5W-30 (made by Mobil). Mobil 1 15W-50 recommended for racing.

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So are they filling it up to the wrong capacity listed on a computer or something, and not even checking the dipstick afterwards?

Semi syn vs full syn? That seems strange.

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Cool. I know Ford factory fill now-a-days is also semi-syn as well (Motorcraft). Well for their normal cars at least, no idea on their performance stuff but assume it's the same.

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Dexos is GM's own "standard" for quality of oil. Its nothing new, its just a fancy word that they license out to oil manufactures so that GM can make more money.

Almost all 2012+ GM vehicles state they need to run "Dexos" oil. I guess they need money to pay their workers for all the recalls.

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Chevy revised capacity from 10.3 to 9.8 quarts last winter, that was mistake #1 for them. Mistake #2 was blindly dumping in 9.8 quarts without taking into account that is total capacity, but getting a complete drain is nearly impossible.

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Yup, I think they're doing it for the extended drain intervals and to squeeze out a little extra MPG while saving on the cost of a full synthetic. Once my free oil changes are done (24k miles) I'll likely switch it over to Mobil 1 5W-30, but in the meantime I'll continue taking advantage of the free oil changes (assuming 3rd time's the charm that is).
Correct, basically a standard above the standard. Many oils meet the specification, but you do have to license the logo from GM to put it on your product so only a few have it. I think this also has to do with the extended oil drain intervals and the factory powertrain warranty; if you're getting your oil changed at JoeBlow Shop using generic bulk oil while still following the extended drain intervals set forth for Dexos1 oils and have an engine failure, good luck getting warranty to cover it.

Is it truly a better oil though? Doubt it, mainly marketing + licensing rights.

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Yeah, Ford also moved to 5W-20, I'm assuming for environmental (MPG) reasons.

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So has Chevy in a lot of their mainstream 4-cylinders; not sure about the V6's. I think the V8's all still run 5W-30 though.

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I just discovered the stock ECU has no-lift-to-shift programming in it...must try this on the way home!

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No lift to shift is awesome!

Starting with 2014, GM's 5.3 and 6.0 (or maybe its 6.2) require 0W20.

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I hate that word require. Is it really required? Or is it just for fuel economy reasons and youd actually be fine (and better protected) with a 30wt?

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The GT500s use a 5w-50. Kind of an extreme range.

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It is required if you want to keep your warranty. If you blow the engine and they find out you didn't us the right oil, they can void the warranty.

Take what you will from that statement. :P