Neon? Srt-4? DONE FOR?
 

Most of you know that the first neons came out in 1994. They are not much to look at and didn't even perform well. Then came the SRT-4, The fastest production car under 30,000 dollars. And stops faster from 80-0 then a 911. the SRT-4 line dropped.

fast forward to
2007.... Caliber.

The 2007 Caliber takes the place of the neon. Yes, There will be an SRT model.
Most of you by now think heh WEAK!.... but here me out. It will have the same A855 2.4l DOHC engine putting out over 235 hp. And now you say that she won't be able to get traction. WRONG. it will have AWD. Maybe now I can run with some of ya DSMer's out of the hole. :D

oh.... the caliber is a hatchback and is very ugly.

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titty wop

but thanks for the update
http://www.chrysler.lv/images/chrysl...ge_caliber.jpg

ahh yesh!

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Oh yeah, many of us on this site care for the info. Thanks!

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Is it a SUV now or just a really big four-door?

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I wouldn't call it sporty, but I don't find it offensive. I think its kinda coo.

Picture it with a front mount in the lower bumper and 4 drag radials aired down to about 13 psi.

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If that is it above, then it looks like a wagon to me. Wagon, the Mini-van of the 70s.

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Maybe a wagon bred with some kind of small dinosaur.

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bleh lookin

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it's curb weight is going to be north of 3500
so do not expect anything past a high 14 stock.

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The Evo RS is under 30,000. so i guess the claim is sorta void isn't it? ooooOOOOO

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you showed him johnny!!

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So let me get this straight.. It's an SUV/Mini Van thing? No.. Alec.. Come on now...

Why is everyone complaining about it being ugly... 1g's are ugly.. and don't even try to say they aren't.. I know a lot of DSMers who admitt it!

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I would have to say my 1G is one of the best looking vehicles I have seen, and I see a lot of vehicles. These newer SUV/Van hybrids are turning out ugly as shit. Nissan Murano, Subaru B9, Chevy HHR, etc.. They all look like pure ass. Some of these vehicles are starting to look like we thought things would look like in the future. Too kiddie space age like. The 1G body is simple, functional and looks great.

New car designers are just getting really out of hand with these stupid designs.

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I understand what you are saying about how damn ugly cars are getting... XB?! That vehicle makes me think who ever designs cars for Scion was really LAZY... I think 1g's are not the ugliest car around, but deffinately not the nicest. However, I have seen a lot of really nice 1g's.. That's just my own personal opinion.

But I do think this vehicle is extremely ugly. It looks like they took the durango, shifted some shit around, thru in some horse power, and called it a day.

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dude. it looks like they chopped a magnum in half. wtf. that thing is fugly. not just ugly.

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You must have meant under $20k, until they raised the MSRP the 2nd year in production :)

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How do we have a neon leg humper on this site?
That new car is a P.O.S. Don't ever think that anything new could be cool. Car companys are dumb as hell and Americans keep buying their retarded shit. It just gets worse each year.

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^^ which doesn't really matter in the end, since sales is what they are after, right?

I don't think it looks very good either, but it is going in the direction that dodge seems to be leaning when it comes to their future image. Slightly more european/refined - and the caliber seems to fill that role well. At least, it does compared to the neon.

And Tauni, wouldn't it be a Durango with some horsepower taken out? ;)

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I guess it depends on what dealer you go to cause where i went, they wanted 31,000$ for an RS Evo.

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Fastest production car for under $30,000? This is a Neon. $30,000. Neon. $30,000. Neon. Am I the only person that get's it?

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Actually, the Neon ACR's were very competent autocrossers/roadracers;)

But neons are still wrong wheel drive econobox's that fall apart.

YAY to the demise of cheap CARS.

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MSRP for an EVO RS is $29,149. Even at that, anyone who pays MSRP for a vehicle (especially a Mitsu) is a fool.

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The only vehicle designed by Scion is the TC. The others are vehicles that were already being used in Japan under the Toyota badge. And since Scion is owned by Toyota, they just used the already existing design. I personally don't mind them at all. Maybe it's because I lived in Japan for a year and those kinda vehicles are what 90% of the island drove, so they just grew on me.

Anyhow, ya that Dodge think is ugly!

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Looks like a Pt curser and a durango had sex.

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I don't like the XB's.. Like I said, they make me think the designer was lazy... But to each their own, and I never knew that.. Though it makes sense.

Personally, I really like SRT-4's. In the beginning of the thread [I may have misread] it seemed like a few of you were hating on them a little bit, but they are really nice. Especially Alec's. Well maybe that has something to do with the fact that he waxes it like every other or something. :rolleyes: But it's quick, and it sounds nice, and I think they look good. Especially with Eye Lids. The concept of the SRT-4 is interesting to me, as well as the STi and EVO's... A basic "grocery-getter"... and all of the sudden, its quick! And people want them! However, I wouldn't be going out and spending$20-30k on one. But I do like them.

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I guess it just depends on your opinion. I think the same about the 2g's. The majority of the 2g people are more concerned with carbon fiber hoods, lowering kits, body kits and wheels than performance.

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Haha, like you just stated, it's a matter of opinion. I can't talk though, but mine's slow so it doesn't count. any 2g should have a lowering kit.. most don't look right with out it. And I'm not saying I wouldn't ever get a 1g either, I want one next spring, but we will have to wait and see.

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Damn... i thought a pure ass was a good thing, times are a changin.
Neons sucks bar none. Remember what happened to that last noob that liked them on this site. LOL jk
Tauni perhaps likes them because her car has a neon motor. OOOOoooo Diss.

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XB = Toaster. Just think about that next time you see one.

As for the Neon replacement thing, I think it will just be another Neon, except it won't say Neon. Cheap Econo car with a 235HP motor in it, and some other stuff changed to hold up to the power. A true sports car? No. Fast? Possibly, depends on how heavy it ends up being.

As for the 2G VS 1G thing, I say they're both ugly. GVR4 for life.

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How about the supercharged cobra for the fastest car under $30k?

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w00t, that is all.

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John has a good idea! :)

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Find me a new SC cobra for under $30k and I will buy 2! Oh yeah, the don't make the SVT anymore.

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I didn't know STi's and Evo's were considered "grocery-getters." Only reason I see that could be said is that they have four doors.

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The evo mr is a nice ride, kinda slow for my taste in a stock form.

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Impreza... Lancer.. base models of each car. Both of which I see mom's haulin' around their kids. They are the nicer of the grocer-getters, but I know a lot of people joke of them that way. It's my opinion, but I've heard other people say that to.

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Their not grocery getters, their detuned rally cars sold as production cars, cause they have to make productions of the cars they use for rallying. #2 the 1G is way sexyer than a Bubbly 2G!!! #3 anyone thats gone to the track and payed any attention to whats going on around them knows that the SRT-4 neon motor is a very capable motor that can keep up to the cars they always get compaired to, evo's and WRX's. and for a few G's less. Alec proved you can mod a SRT-4 like a DSM, more boost and good gas.

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I read an article in sport compact car where they tore down an SRT4s engine. It was impressive!

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Dodge did a great job overbuilding that car...engine, drivetrain, everything. They had to though, still offering a 7/70 powertrain warranty even with the no-lift-to-shift upgrade stage!

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I am really impressed with dodge on that one. If they came in anything but FWD I would probably own one right now.