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v8klla 06-07-2005 01:58 AM

Local Rear Wheel Drive DSM...What?
 
Yeah you read it right...

http://www.maperformance.com/KyleRWD.mpg

Right click and save as!

santa 06-07-2005 02:57 AM

Re: Local Rear Wheel Drive DSM...What?
 
Fucking awesome!!!!

Kevin

INTRIGUED 06-07-2005 09:02 AM

Re: Local Rear Wheel Drive DSM...What?
 
That rocks! There is another one like that out too of the same car. I'll see if I can find it.

Enes 06-07-2005 09:23 AM

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sweet!!! how'd he make it rwd only?

JET 06-07-2005 10:28 AM

Re: Local Rear Wheel Drive DSM...What?
 
Very cool. Did he remount the engine and go with a RWD tranny?

Matt D. 06-07-2005 10:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JET
Very cool. Did he remount the engine and go with a RWD tranny?

This is Kyle we're talking about... He himself rivals HORT when it comes to ghetto mechanics. :D

AJ 06-07-2005 10:41 AM

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That silly bastard. LOL That's awesome.

Enes 06-07-2005 10:42 AM

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he probably broke the trany and it works only in RWD so he is just driving it around that way until it completely breaks.. i'm sure thats whats up..
OR,
he removed front axles. sealed the holes so it doesn't leak oil out, and has the welded VC in .. ;p

-E

EclipseGST 06-07-2005 10:42 AM

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lol nice work on the RWD. Just what I like to see. Good vid.

Shane@DBPerformance 06-07-2005 10:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Enes
sweet!!! how'd he make it rwd only?

You just run a welded VC or center diff and run only parts of the front axles, so they don't actually do anything but act as place holders.

Isn't most of that video from a year ago?

v8klla 06-07-2005 02:05 PM

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The video is from about a week ago, and yes he is running a spool from TRE and only parts of the front axles... We definately expected something to break, but the four bolt and the axles held up nicely. The insane part is that a ~ 300 whp rear wheel drive DSM gets squirrly in third without even dumping the clutch ;)

Shane@DBPerformance 06-07-2005 02:56 PM

Re: Local Rear Wheel Drive DSM...What?
 
Did someone else release a video almost exactly like that one then a while ago?

scheides 06-07-2005 03:24 PM

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yes, but the burnout was way more dramatic, and it was a real RWD conversion, I believe (i.e. chevy tranny, rotated motor, etc.) I thought the same thing, some narrow, random, paved road in the middle of a field w/ a rwd dsm doing burnouts. Then again, if I was going to do long, dramatic burnouts, that might be the place to try it out!

In the older video, the guy initially spins out off the road, just a bit.

AJ 06-07-2005 04:03 PM

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So who makes adapters and shit for the RWD swap that turns the engine and matches it with a diff tranny? I am sure Buschur does, but does anyone else? Or do most just get the mesurments and have something made up...?

DSM1G 06-07-2005 05:16 PM

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Is that the Kyle that works at QPR?, or use to? That was pretty damn cool.

AJ 06-07-2005 05:21 PM

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Yup, that's him. You can't mistake the FMIC by any means. I love it. LOL

scheides 06-07-2005 07:05 PM

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Buschur Does, don't know who else. I think I'd miss AWD too much...

StealthGST 06-07-2005 08:23 PM

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Who wants to attempt a FWD to RWD conversion... cuz that's what I need :)

EclipseGST 06-07-2005 08:53 PM

Re: Local Rear Wheel Drive DSM...What?
 
If I cant find a bell housing in the next week I think I'm going to try it. Probably a little harder than an AWD swap just because of turning the motor sideways. Should be interesting to see how it works. Talk about a lot of fabrication!

niterydr 06-07-2005 10:20 PM

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a little harder than an awd swap?
Try an adapter plate is needed unless you do enough research to find out which mitsubishi transmissions accept the narrow block pattern (most 4g63 and 4g64's are 'narrow block') Plus the entire rear end suspension would have to be done to do it right. Plus not to mention the tunneling that might be required, the engine bay work, the firewall modifications...etc.
I knew kyle was working on this a few months back, nice to see it up and running, I wish him the best of luck with it holding for him.
A guy on 3si.org did something very similar to his 3kgt with pretty positive results. He did it for some R&D on our 'weak' transfercases.

john 06-07-2005 10:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D.
This is Kyle we're talking about... He himself rivals HORT when it comes to ghetto mechanics. :D

This coming from the kid who has not had a running dsm in his life! Fuck, I thought your car was one of Mikes first projects. I was there the other day and it is still sitting there. Go do it yourself ya mechanic. You give me shit when you cannot even work on your car.

santa 06-08-2005 03:08 PM

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I still am getting the feeling from what I'm reading that a few of you think that he did turn the engine and all that fun stuff. Its just a spool in the center diff (like v8killa said) with the front plung joint caped on the tranny. The fixed joint has the axle nut tight so the wheel bearings wont come apart. and bam RWD.

Kevin

MatriX 06-08-2005 03:20 PM

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Makes me miss home evan more. Awesome vid!

DSMPARTSGURU 06-08-2005 03:29 PM

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VERY interesting? I know the 3000 guys have found out it doenst help any and actually hurts 1/4 mile times!! whats the scenario on the dsm's?

chris

CVD 06-08-2005 03:59 PM

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Simply disconnecting the front wheels will not help your 1/4 mile. If the intent is to reduce drivetrain loss, you picked the wrong set of wheels to disconnect from the drivetrain. And without doing a proper RWD setup, traction gains (assuming slicks) are nil. So unless you think its cool, there is simply no rational reason to do that to a functioning AWD car.

JET 06-08-2005 04:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CVD
So unless you think its cool, there is simply no rational reason to do that to a functioning AWD car.

Are you insane CVD? It makes perfect sense!! BIG SMOKEY BURNOUTS!!! As far as performance, yeah it won't help at all.

Shane@DBPerformance 06-08-2005 04:38 PM

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Throw some slicks on there, do a big burnout and break the tiny AWD rear axles on the launch.

santa 06-08-2005 09:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CVD
Simply disconnecting the front wheels will not help your 1/4 mile. If the intent is to reduce drivetrain loss, you picked the wrong set of wheels to disconnect from the drivetrain. And without doing a proper RWD setup, traction gains (assuming slicks) are nil. So unless you think its cool, there is simply no rational reason to do that to a functioning AWD car.

That is the only reason why he did it was to do massive burnouts... He runs AWD at the track....

Kevin

Shotgun! 06-09-2005 10:35 AM

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Could someone tell me why burnouts are cool?

DSMPARTSGURU 06-09-2005 10:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Grey Wulf
Could someone tell me why burnouts are cool?

please tell me you are kidding.... if not get your head checked....

cc

TalonFiero 06-09-2005 10:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Grey Wulf
Could someone tell me why burnouts are cool?

They just are nancy boy!

Jim

AJ 06-09-2005 03:21 PM

Re: Local Rear Wheel Drive DSM...What?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlos
This coming from the kid who has not had a running dsm in his life! Fuck, I thought your car was one of Mikes first projects. I was there the other day and it is still sitting there. Go do it yourself ya mechanic. You give me shit when you cannot even work on your car.


I've personally seen Matt work on his won car. So if Matt wants to crack back on this it's all gravy. ;) lol

Matt D. 06-09-2005 03:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlos
This coming from the kid who has not had a running dsm in his life! Fuck, I thought your car was one of Mikes first projects. I was there the other day and it is still sitting there. Go do it yourself ya mechanic. You give me shit when you cannot even work on your car.

I bought the car as a project, and Mike agreed to help me with it. The project keeps getting bigger. What can't you understand about that? I'm not cutting corners, it's all being done right the first time. I'd rather have one non-running DSM than a handful of them that run half-assed or not at all.

By the way, who's really the kid? Last I checked I didn't live with my parents. Try living in an apartment without a garage and then ask why my car is still at QPR.

Goat Blower 06-09-2005 04:02 PM

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Burnouts will always be cool. If someone questions that, they should trade their DSM in for a Prius.

StealthGST 06-09-2005 05:22 PM

Re: Local Rear Wheel Drive DSM...What?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Goat Blower
Burnouts will always be cool. If someone questions that, they should trade their DSM in for a Prius.

I love the part in Joe Dirt where he stops at the entrance gate and the security guard calls him queer, and he starts burnin' out in his POS.

"You see them spinning tires, is that queer!"

god I love that movie

v8klla 06-09-2005 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by Matt D.

"This is Kyle we're talking about... He himself rivals HORT when it comes to ghetto mechanics."

Ghetto Mechanic? Who gave you the right to call anyone ghetto? Name one thing I have ever done that is "ghetto." Just because I have the talent to build my own parts rather than paying outrageous amounts of money for them does not make me "ghetto." Before you start comparing me to HORT think about what you're saying...

Kyle aka 2fast4you (Account not working...Allan?)

john 06-10-2005 12:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D.
By the way, who's really the kid? Last I checked I didn't live with my parents. Try living in an apartment without a garage and then ask why my car is still at QPR.

You are 26 and have a (probly) full time job at Target??? I am 20, work full time (ace) and go to school full time in the fall and spring. I took 19 credits last semester getting straight A's. I am actually finacially independent. I could move out but I value money more than you. I will NEVER rent a place to live for a while. While paying school, I am actually saving for a house or some real estate investing. I have quite a bit saved up.

As far as an appartment withought a garage, do you think someone is going to steal the car? Ask anyone who has been to my house. My garage is full of dsm shit. I work most of the time out of it unless I am doing an engine or something in the winter. No heat or cooling, just shelter from rain or snow. If you want to discuss more, PM me.

Shotgun! 06-10-2005 02:22 AM

Re: Local Rear Wheel Drive DSM...What?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DSMPARTSGURU
please tell me you are kidding.... if not get your head checked....

cc

They are a n00b trick. Great, you can't launch a RWD...or..."this isn't how my Saturn works". I could do burnouts all day...I gots that RWD thingy, stock! Just a waste of time.

Kracka 06-10-2005 02:48 AM

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Burnouts are a waste of money, both in tires and drivetrain components. I can't think of a single time in my life when I've done a burnout just for the sake of doing a burnout. Yeah, I've spun my tires on a hard launch and at the drag strip, but never just to see pretty smoke stink up my car. I too love my RWD stock thingy. Reid, lets hit Plypus one of these nights!

Matt D. 06-10-2005 09:42 AM

Re: Local Rear Wheel Drive DSM...What?
 
Seriously, did you all miss the big :D in my first post? But since you all wanted to fuel the fire, why stop now?
Quote:

Originally Posted by v8klla
Ghetto Mechanic? Who gave you the right to call anyone ghetto? Name one thing I have ever done that is "ghetto."

Did you ever look at the front of your car? What about that Pacesetter manifold with a ton of weld and slag where the runners joined?
Quote:

Originally Posted by v8klla
Just because I have the talent to build my own parts rather than paying outrageous amounts of money for them does not make me "ghetto."

Define outrageous. You pay what you get for the majority of the time in this world. Not to say that everything you make is bad, but why wouldn't it be ghetto, would anyone else want your parts?
Quote:

Originally Posted by v8klla
Before you start comparing me to HORT think about what you're saying...

I already have thought about it.

Now, on to the resident HORT member.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlos
You are 26 and have a (probly) full time job at Target??? I am 20, work full time (ace) and go to school full time in the fall and spring. I took 19 credits last semester getting straight A's.

Target? Shit... How things change. Structured education is overrated. I'll stick to educating myself and stay away from institutions. Have fun paying for your education for years to come.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlos
I am actually finacially independent. I could move out but I value money more than you. I will NEVER rent a place to live for a while. While paying school, I am actually saving for a house or some real estate investing. I have quite a bit saved up.

Good for you. I didn't know better when I was your age and fucked up my financial future.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlos
As far as an appartment withought a garage, do you think someone is going to steal the car? Ask anyone who has been to my house. My garage is full of dsm shit. I work most of the time out of it unless I am doing an engine or something in the winter. No heat or cooling, just shelter from rain or snow.

What does getting my car stolen have anything to do about this? We weren't talking about the security of it, were we? No. We were talking about working on my car. I have nowhere at my apartment to work on my car. That's the point. QPR is in the armpit of St. Paul, if I was worried about it getting stolen it would be from where it sits right now. Regardless, I don't have a garage that I can call my own and neither do you.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlos
If you want to discuss more, PM me.

No, that's fine. We'll do it here since you chose to reply to my original sarcasm in the public forum.


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