We are having a sale on bolt-on Mitsubishi turbos from Precision Turbo for DSMStyle Members for a limited time.

SCM50 - $775
T04E 50-trim compressor wheel & cover - Stage 2(T31 69 Trim) or Stage 3(T31 76 Trim) Exhaust Wheel - .48 A/R or .63 A/R Exhaust Housing
Should support 400-470whp on race gas and high boost depending on your setup.
Options:
Internal Wastegate +$75
90 Degree Cast Alum Elbow +$25
Oil Feed Line/Return Line Kit +$100
PTE 680 Injectors +$310


SCM60 - $775
60-1 compressor wheel with a T04E cover - Stage 2(T31 69 Trim) or Stage 3(T31 76 Trim) Exhaust Wheel
Should support 400-525whp on race gas and high boost depending on your setup.
Options:
Internal Wastegate +$75
90 Degree Cast Alum Elbow +$25
Oil Feed Line/Return Line Kit +$100
PTE 680 or 780 Injectors +$310


SCM61 - $775
56-trim Garrrett GT compressor wheel with a T04E cover - Stage 5(T-350 76 Trim) or T04 Exhaust Wheels Available
Should support 420-600whp on race gas and high boost depending on your setup.
Options:
Internal Wastegate +$75
90 Degree Cast Alum Elbow +$25
Oil Feed Line/Return Line Kit +$100
PTE 780 or 880 Injectors +$310
T04S Compressor Cover +$100


Call and ask for Shane at Elite for availability. 612-521-0550

Damn, wish I had some money now. Those are some great prices.

BTW, what turbo do you run Shane? 56-trim?

I have a 56-trim with a T04S cover, but it has a T4 exhaust side on it not a Mitsu. I haven't used it yet either.

How good are the internal gates good for(PSI). About 25 max?

I don't know exactly. I know some people are running 28-30psi with the internally gated versions. Internals often have a trade off of not being able to run high boost stable or creeping at low boost. JET is running a PTE with an internal gate, I am not sure if he has tried to run over 24psi yet though. I am not a big fan of internals, you will get better spoolup with an external and usually get very stable boost control.

I think on race gas it was holding 26psi pretty good. And probably would have held more but I don't know. It had to be ported out though cause it was creeping pretty bad but after Jet did that it was fine. External is definetly the way to go though, I am pretty sure he is going external when he gets a new turbo.

CRAIG

So, what all would I need to bolt one of these turbo's up? I have an external wastegate. So I would need turbo, feed line kit, and a cast elbow? Do I need a new manifold also (2g now)? Is the cast elbow to replace the o2 housing meaning I would run a manifold mounted wastegate? I planned on running it off the o2 housing.
Thanks, John

BTW, what would you recommend on a street car? My goals are 11's on race gas.

The sale is for the bolt on Mitsu Turbos. No aftermarket Exh Mani needed.

Thanks.

A 50-trim is the best street/strip sized turbo out of these. The cast 90 degree elbow is usually used on 2Gs to make the charge air outlet similar to the placement on the T25 for hooking up to intercooler piping. On short route 1G intercooler piping setups like the Buschur, Indy Race Core, Victory, SLS, etc FMIC kits you don't usually use the elbow, they are setup for a turbo with its outlet pointing close to straight down.

How does the 50-trim compare to the GT 56-trim? From what I have been hearing, the spool-up is only about 200 rpm slower. Doesn't it flow a lot more while being much more efficient?

The 56-trim is going to spool quite a bit slower than a 50-trim. Should be a lot more than 200RPMs. The 56-trim is larger than a 60-1. It is close in size to a T61. The smallest exhaust wheel that they even offer for the 56-trim is a stage 5 compared to the stage 2 and stage 3 available on the 50-trim models. You could get a dual ball-bearing version (FP3065 or GT35R) for a fair amount more and possibly get better spoolup.

If I had my car tuned on a 50 trim and changed to a 60 trim, would the 60 trim be noticably faster? Sorry for all the questions, I only want to buy 1 turbo. I dont want to have to upgrade because I want faster. BTW, i am trying to get rid of my 16g, then I will have enough money. I dont want all my money tied up in parts which are laying around. Thanks, John

Just get a 50 trim or get your car running with the 16g before "upgrading".

The jump from a 50-trim T04E compressor wheel to a 60-trim T04E isn't that huge. Most guys step up to a 60-1 from the 50-trim. The T04E 50-trim actually flows more than a T04E 54-trim and flow similar to a T04E 57-trim, but it's more effiecient at high high boost levels than any of the wheels in the T04E family due partially to the exducer size of the 50-trim being slightly larger than the 46, 54, 57, and 60-trims. The 60-trim is rated to flow a little more than the 50-trim, but it might not be as efficient at 30psi from looking at it's compressor map. However it looks like part of the T04E 60-trim's comp map might be missing on the ones publicly available. The 60-trim should make a little more power though just because it can flow more air, a couple points of efficiency doesn't have a huge effect on power overall.

People have run 10s on 20Gs and 50-trims, people have run 14s on 60-1s, you have to have the rest of the setup and tuning to make full use of any large turbo. If you go bigger than a 50-trim, you are probably going to want to get your setup capable of reving to 8000 or 8500 and making power up there so that lag becomes less of an issue.

If you want a T04E 60-trim, we can get you one at the same price. I only listed what I thought would be the 3 most popular sizes.

I will probly end up with the 50 trim then since I have a completely stock 7 bolt. Want to keep that as long as possible. Or atleast until I snap a rod. Then, I will do the engine overhall. Thanks for the info. How long do you think the sale will go? Looks like I can get rid of my turbo when-ever I want. Hope to sell local though.

So Shane how long is this thing running for?

Chris

Couple weeks.

That's a good price. Kinda makes me cry when I look at my FP invoice. :uh:

Time to sell it and get yourself a nice 56-trim for the 2.4l.

Don't tempt me. That purchase would probably put me in divorce court.

The SCM50 is now available with a smaller .48 A/R exhaust housing for quicker spoolup. The normal Mitsu exhaust housing on the these turbos is a .63 A/R. PTE is only offering it on the SCM50 as of now.

Shane, do you know how much bigger the outside of the T04S housing is compared to the T04E? I am just wondering if I can fit it in or not without a spacer plate. Do the stage 5 wheels on the GT56 cost extra?

The T350(Stage 5) wheel is the basic and smallest wheel offered on the 56-trim. It doesn't cost extra.

Is your car apart? I could bring in my PTE T04S compressor cover and compare it to yours if its off the car. Or you could just measure the diameter across the backplate.

My car is all apart. I don't have a lot of room, so if it is over 1/2" bigger I don't think it will fit. I will bring mine on Sat and compare the 2.

Sale Ends Friday Nov 7th...

We bolted up a 60-1 hybrid w/ T04S cover to a 91 TSI and it fit just fine. I also had the turbo on my car for a few quick dyno pulls and it cleared mine as well w/o a spacer, although i did remove the water supply on the water pipe. PTE doesn't use it anyways so remove that and it should bolt up just fine.

Nick

Was this a PTE turbo or a different one? I am just thinking they may mount a little differently. I looked at Shanes T04S and it looks like it should fit.

Mounted a SBR 60-1 w/ T04S just fine and then a 60-1 T3/T4 w/ TO4S cover just fine as well.

Nick

Alright Shane, I am going to get a SCM61. I am going with the T04S housing and a 2.5" aluminum elbow welded on. So that should be $900, right? What exhaust wheel do you recommend for a 2.4 with 8.8:1 compresion? FRH manifold, HKS 272's, etc. I think you know most of my setup. I don't really know anything about the T4 turbine wheels that are available for it. I would like spool by 3.8k or so.

Yea, it would be $900 for one setup for an external gate and the T04S housing. The elbows don't come welded on though, we would have to figure that out. I am not sure if a larger 2.5" 90 degree elbow would cost much more than than the 2" one used on the T04E covers. Hopefully its only a few bucks.

I am not sure about the T4 wheels, there are a few of them available and some of them have the same dimensions as some of the T350 wheels. I would probably do the T350 2.795"/2.437" exhaust wheel if you want it to spool decent.

I will try and stop by Sat and drop a down payment off for it.