Engine Install(2G)
 

So I am almost done with my engine and I would like to know whats the best way to put it in? Do I mount the tranny and then slap it in? Have the intake mani and exhaust mani on? Or put it in with no accessories like that?
Thanks,
Mike

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It is definately easier to put it with the tranny bolted to the motor, intake, exhaust turbo etc. Less of a PITA in the long run. On the same lines, you really should have the turbo, lines etc bolted up to the longblock before the timing belt is on then you can prime the oiling system with a drill motor and watch the cam followers to make sure the oiling system is functioning correctly with no blocked passages etc. It might seem a bit overkill, but I have found cases where it paid off to watch the followers. If you spend the time to build the motor, you should definately prime it before initial startup. There other ways to prime it, but this is actually pretty simple and it has the parts all have to end up on the motor at some point, just do it in the right order and it works out perfectly.

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If you have access to a rack and a lift table, bolt the trans to the engine and slip it in from the bottom of the car. Goes in very easy.

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All I have is a plain old garage and an engine stand and lift. You say to mount the tranny on the engine, how do you do that? Do you take the enigne off the stand and set it on the ground? I would think that if I put the engine in first then the tranny it would be easy. But then again I have never done this and dont know anything.

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Connect them on the ground or just above when you have the engine suspended from the hoist, it works pretty well if you have a load leveler to adjust the angle of attack when installing. It would be wise to move the bracket for the slave cylinder line out of the way as it usually gets caught on the tranny. Also watch out for the oil pressure sender as it will try to kill itself on the radiator core support.

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Yea definetly assembly it before you install. Its much easier than messing with the tranny ones the engine is installed. Atleast on a 1G it is... and they have more room under the hood than a 2G...

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I think 2g's are worse about putting the trans in seperately. Especially on an AWD. :mad:

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sweet thanks guys!
Mike

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Do you need to have the bottom mount for the intake manifold installed? Is it gonna fall off or something?

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Are you talking about the thing holding the intake manifold to the block? If so, you don't need it. For most people, it is just a big PITA if the head needs to be pulled again.

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I've been working with/on cars at dealerships for 20 years now. One thing I've learned, engineers and manufacturers don't spend money on parts they don't think are really needed. It's all about the bottom line profit.

But, many people have run a stock manifold without it. But you are taking a chance of it cracking under it's own weight.

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So you are the one that built the engine?

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Where did that come from and who is it directed at?

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I'm with Vicious here, OEMs wouldn't waste a single penny if they didn't need to.But as stated, many vehicles don't have them and have no issues.Better safe, than sorry if you ask me

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Ok totally off that subject. I installed the engine and now im working on the tranny. The top bolts up fine but the bolts on the side wont go in. the dowl pins arent in the holes but i cant move the tranny at all. How do I get it lined up? Need help ASAP!!!

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Did you use a clutch alignment shaft to line up the disc and pressure plate before putting it together?

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yah. u used that. then tighted the pp and took it out. could it be that the shaft in the tranny isnt lined up?

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Something is not lining up correctly. Try using a wrench to turn the crank. See if it will fall in place.

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Tried that and it didnt do much. I swear this shouldnt be this hard. GRRR!! Im ready to quite. Ive been trying to install this tranny since 1030 and still isnt right. GRRR!!!

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Well, then take it back out and recheck everything.

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1030 til now isn't that bad when i was trying to get my tranny back in my lancer after doing a clutch I spent the better part of 3 days trying to get it back in. I'd say if your having that hard of a time you may want to drop the tranny back down double check the clutch alignment then try again. I would make sure that all the bolts line up perfectly or damn near before I even started to try and thread anyhting in. Good luck with the work

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So you went against what we recommended and installed only the engine first and now your putting the tranny in after? Well if you like doing things the hard way, more power to you...


Yea something is probably not lining up and it could be the clutch. Jiggle it around an push it in harder.

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haha yah that because last night i wanted to put it in and my friends ran off so I had no help to get it put on. But now i know that it would have probably been easier. but its to late now so lesson learned. ALSO another thing, i heard that doing a 1g in a 2g you need to cut off the weight on the tranny so the radiator hose can go by. true?

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I have never heard that before. What weight on the tranny? There should be no problem with the radiator hose. Did you connect everything up before putting the tranny in?

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He's talking about the counter weight on the shift shaft. I had to remove mine too. It was rubbing the lower radiator hose. So I just took it off.

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I got it installed. Had a couple buddies help me out. It just didnt want to line up properly. Does the counter weight just come off or do you have to cut it off? If you cut it how far up do you cut it? and pics? Thanks!

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You can cut it off near the base, search tuners for pics...very simple to do. Otherwise you run into clearance issues with the lower radiator hose.

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Ok so just cut it off. No I ran into ANOTHER problem, The power steering belt is to short. I have the 2G PS pump, all 2G pulleys, all 2G mounting for PS, and a 2G belt. I have tried everything, but the belt wont go on. Is there something else I should do? Or do I need 1G stuff?

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Does anyone know about this power steering thing? I need to get this car running soon. My winter beeter is falling apart.

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Anyone?

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I had the same belt issue. Just remove the pump mounting bolts so it will move closer to the block and it should go rght on. I'm using 2g brackets on a 1g.

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I'm going to have to go ditto on the lower radiator hose clearance issue, that counterweight on the shifter linkage is a bit of a PITA. When I bought my car(6-bolt swap'd 2g), it had a 1g lower radiator hose on it & would not fully engage into 2nd or 4th because of it. You'd think this is something you'd notice? So yea, 2g lower radiator hose & I'm having no clearance issues now.

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I totally unbolted the pump from the braket and I turned it so the pully was as close as i could get it and the belt went on. its tight and the whole for the mounting dont line up. its almost like the belt is too short. i donno. i bought the belts at mitsubishi so i figure they should be right.

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It was directed at blageo because he said he is almost done with his engine. it was just a question not being rude at all. but thanks for the bad reputation.

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Ok so I got the engine in and Im having some clutch issues.(other post) Also the check engine light is on, Didnt have time to look at it tonight. But the car wont go above 4 grand and when its there it doesnt accellerate anymore and its all jerky and my friend who was following me said there was black smoke coming out. This whole engine build has been hell, I just want it running.

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Does the car vibrate like hell at 4k? If so your balance shafts could be upside down (if you still have them).

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You have the wiring from the CAS hooked up to the right wires on the harness? If your car is 95-96 did you swap the plug wires? Everything timed good and nothing off a tooth? Just some things to check that could play a role in the way your car is acting up.

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How did you get the ps pump thing working? Did you leave it like you had it? Just not bolt it on. I hope there wasn't a reason your friend got the motor for free. If the cas wasn't installed correctly, the car most likely wouldn't start so I don't think that was the problem.

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If the car is a 95-96 you need to swap injector wires as well as the ignition wires.

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Double post