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niterydr 08-27-2004 09:42 AM

Pretty good video, its biased against the 'theory' of a huge plane flying into the pentagon, tell me what you think.

http://www.tomhoffmanjr.com/vidpent.swf

Pushit2.0 08-27-2004 10:17 AM

owned.

~John

DSMPARTSGURU 08-27-2004 11:40 AM

SO, if the plane didnt crash in to the pentegon where did it go??

chris

CDeutsch 08-27-2004 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DSMPARTSGURU@Aug 27 2004, 10:40 AM
SO, if the plane didnt crash in to the pentegon where did it go??

chris

It hit the pentagon:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ppfinal.html

Nice flash vid though would make for a good movie. ;)

A//// Guy 08-27-2004 12:08 PM

Very interesting. I dont know which to believe haha.

Matt D. 08-27-2004 02:05 PM

I'm not going to even bother watching that. There are numerous witness accounts of seeing the plane actually impact the Pentagon and/or a plane flying VERY low in the Pentagon's direction, and clear visible proof of the plane wreckage.

LightningGSX 08-27-2004 02:50 PM

What would be the motive for making it look like a jumbo jet hit the Pentagon if it really didn't anyway?

LightningGSX 08-27-2004 03:05 PM

Another observation-
On 9/11/01 I remember a guy on the news who heard/saw the plane flying overheard before it hit the pentagon, he said the plane throttled up before crashing.I doubt this was the case in the other accident pics where larger debris was shown.In the accidental crashes, they were more than likely moving at a considerable less speed.Since mass increases with speed, a plane moving at full/near full speed would leave considerably smaller wreckage(if any at all), than one moving at relatively low speed.

INTRIGUED 08-27-2004 05:59 PM

I am kinda curious why they would take all of the video's from all the camera's along the path of the "Plane" :stick: and have no evidence of the plan going by all these area's. :bs:

A//// Guy 08-27-2004 06:10 PM

Yea that is kinda weird. Why wouldnt they release that footage? Also sure the fuselage of the plane would smash into nothingness because of its massive size and all the fuel, but why didn the wings just get clipped alon the building and crash to the floor.

Also in the part where they show the " missile/plane" crashing into the pentagon from the side, why does the plane look super tiny and also like 2 feet from the ground the entire time and it never left a skid mark on the ground at all.

Just kinda wierd.

SuperSleeper 08-27-2004 06:33 PM

So if I understand this correctly, the purpose of this video is to convince viewers that the government is lying to us and covering something up?

















What's new.

LightningGSX 08-27-2004 07:01 PM

From my understanding, the plane didn't actually hit the pentagon.It hit the ground, and the explosion/shockwave/fire is what damaged the pentagon.

LightningGSX 08-27-2004 07:03 PM

I don't know what the point of a cover up would be anyway.

There are just far too many internet conspiracy theorists.

tpunx99GSX 08-27-2004 10:34 PM

I know for a fact that there was a plane that crashed into the pentagon, my sister was on her way to work taking her normal route in front of the pentagon when the plane flew right in front of her, she immediately pulled her car over and started screaming. then it hit.

SuperSleeper 08-28-2004 02:23 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...er/obvious.jpg

JDM 08-28-2004 05:49 AM

That was the biggest waste of time I've ever seen.

I hope you guys file that theory next to "The world being flat", and "The Kennedy Rubber Bullet".



That's mocking the lives lost on that flight.



Follow up questions:

Where did the plane go? Did all those people just disappear?

They're probably on that island with Marylin Monroe, Elvis, and 2Pac.

Did Micheal Moore write this?

Seriously.

niterydr 08-28-2004 06:18 AM

I thought it was funny ::shrugs::

FattyBoomBatty 08-29-2004 02:55 PM

well, there IS that guy now who sounds pretty much exactly like notorious b.i.g.

so elvis and 2 pack might still be around.


either way, WHO CARES what actually hit the pentagon. it was pretty badly damaged. not to mention everyone in the planes who died, no matter where they did or not, they are dead now.


i think this is a class project for Flash 101, know what i'm saying?

b00stingsx 08-29-2004 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tpunx99GSX@Aug 27 2004, 08:34 PM
I know for a fact that there was a plane that crashed into the pentagon, my sister was on her way to work taking her normal route in front of the pentagon when the plane flew right in front of her, she immediately pulled her car over and started screaming. then it hit.
those pictures really make you think though. Your sister may have seen a plane that was about to drop a missle, and then fly off....

Im leaning more towards the missle vs a boeing commercial jet.

JET 08-29-2004 08:02 PM

"Drop" a missile? Missiles have little engines in them that go Pssssssshhht! You fire a missile from a distance away, you don't drop it. You also don't use a low angle of attack like that if you are going to drop a bomb.

b00stingsx 08-29-2004 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JET@Aug 29 2004, 06:02 PM
"Drop" a missile? Missiles have little engines in them that go Pssssssshhht! You fire a missile from a distance away, you don't drop it. You also don't use a low angle of attack like that if you are going to drop a bomb.
well you know what im getting at. im saying that there is no way that a huge jet (with giant ass wings) flew into the pentagon.

Anduinlight 08-29-2004 09:07 PM

wow, I smell a considerable debate about to happen... :/

b00stingsx 08-29-2004 09:16 PM

I dont want to start anything, its just my view. my opinion. I'm not saying that its definatly a missile, but i tottaly dont think its a commercial jet.

Anduinlight 08-29-2004 09:21 PM

well you wouldn't believe all the sites, videos and other documents saying that "It wasn't a plane that hit the pentagon" or "the planes that hit the 2 towers launched a missle before impact" all sorts of stuff like that. Alot of it is very convincing, and there are alot of reasons why the government would do it
BUT.....
All i know is that alot of people died on that day, faked or not, lives were lost. And it's a very. demoralizing thought to think that OUR government would kill OUR own people
:jammin:

LightningGSX 08-29-2004 10:50 PM

For what reason would the government launch a missile at the pentagon? Why would the government cover it up if someone else launched a missile at the pentagon? Who would even have a missile capable of hitting the pentagon besides our military? What happened to the people that died on the plane that "supposedly" hit the pentagon? Did a UFO pick'em up?

I didn't see one single convincing thing in that flash video or anywhere else.Until someone launches a missile and a commercial jet into the pentagon for comparison purposes, how the hell would any of you or anyone else on the 'net know that a jet didn't hit the pentagon? No doubt our government lies to us and covers shit up on a regular basis, but this one is rediculous.Two words for you: Occum's Razor

Halon 08-29-2004 11:04 PM

It's amazing how deep people dig through bullshit just to try and exploit the government as being a bunch of liars. Everything is a conspiracy right? You think that's air your breathing...?

Anduinlight 08-29-2004 11:31 PM

True that :jammin:

FattyBoomBatty 08-29-2004 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by me612@Aug 29 2004, 09:04 PM
It's amazing how deep people dig through bullshit just to try and exploit the government as being a bunch of liars. Everything is a conspiracy right? You think that's air your breathing...?
but dude, it's better than a bunch of blind mice following their noses, anyone can cover up smelling shit with sand, know what i'm saying?

Halon 08-30-2004 04:05 AM

I'm still confused as to what that video is trying to prove. That a smaller plane hit it? Why would they lie about what kinda plane hit. And if that's what they believe then wouldn't that totally go against their whole thing where they are saying there is no airplane wreckage? While we're at it, I know a secret about a presidential candidate that he is hiding. I'll make a video about it, about how Kerry's parents couldn't affor a xmas tree and hung ornaments from HIM instead and made him stand there, and that's why his face is so damn long. Bum Bum Buuummmmm, the plot thickens ooooohhhh, another thing the government is hiding.

JDM 08-30-2004 04:05 AM

Can anyone here honestly bitch about quality of life? We have it better than any other country in the world.

Sometimes ignorance is bliss...


And that video is still retarded.

JDM 08-30-2004 04:34 AM

I've got one for ya:

Withdrawn

NOT WORK SAFE.

A//// Guy 08-30-2004 10:22 AM

Dont click that.

CDeutsch 08-30-2004 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EclipseTurbo@Aug 30 2004, 09:22 AM
Dont click that.
Press "Alt-F4" to close the window if you do.

FattyBoomBatty 08-30-2004 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JDM@Aug 30 2004, 02:05 AM
We have it better than any other country in the world.

hey, man, Canada has free health insurance for everyone. hehehe

A//// Guy 08-30-2004 11:17 PM

Be my guest and move to canada. We dont mind ;)

Anduinlight 08-30-2004 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Conquests are better+Aug 30 2004, 05:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Conquests are better @ Aug 30 2004, 05:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-JDM@Aug 30 2004, 02:05 AM
We have it better than any other country in the world.

hey, man, Canada has free health insurance for everyone. hehehe [/b][/quote]
yeah but they also have like 50+% income tax :headache:

CVD 08-31-2004 01:08 AM

Yeah, oh pretty please take my money away from me to pay for my (and everyone elses) health care. Because I am incompetent and unable to handle my finances.

JDM 08-31-2004 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CVD@Aug 30 2004, 11:08 PM
Yeah, oh pretty please take my money away from me to pay for my (and everyone elses) health care. Because I am incompetent and unable to handle my finances.
thank you.

Glad someone said it.



You want health care, get a GD job.

And if you're old and don't have any money cause you didn't put some away, then maybe you shoulda spent more time in economics...

Free Healthcare for all ranks up there with me by Affirmative action.

Good on paper, but a big waste of time and money.

niterydr 08-31-2004 05:52 AM

I thought it was good for a flash movie, nice music, good theme :).
Will the rest of you please STFU and watch the pretty movie ;).


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