Jim, Ryan, Swanny and I all had a ton of fun at BIR this weekend, nothing like the feel of 16,000 HP taking off right in front of you. Pretty cool stuff.

Now that all that is done, anyone know any results from the SO?

16,000, wholly hell. BTW, did they ever even finish last years shootout video?

8,000 + 8,000 = 16,000

Cher had all of the video from last years SO, but nothing ever came of it.

If anyone has footage (of anything) I will gladly hack it up and choreograph it to some music.

chris carey, didnt have the best time down at the SO, but i will let him explain that to you when he gets back tomorrow.

yeah 16000hp is loud. You don't hear it, just feel it :).
Until you've seen top fuel and nitro funny cars go at it, you haven't been drag racing.

spuh? were you in a cone of silence? how can you not hear 240 db?

I have seen a 4000hp funny car, it doesnt matter how loud it is, its the vibration threw your body that makes it what it is. I also heard you can hear the top fuel guys from over 30miles away when their racing.

~John

The track was definately fun! BIR + Babes Intoxication & Racing

Thats too bad to hear about Chris's manifold, I had hoped it would hold together for at least a couple passes, but I am pretty sure it's life is over for good. Not sure what they made it from, but it definately wasn't 321.

240 db would explode the heads of everybody there.160 db will pierce eardrums, 240 db is 10 million times louder than 160 db.

what was it for every 3db the noise is doubled ...

-E

Its logarithmic, so every ten dB, output is tenfold.

Wouldn't that be exponential?

240DB would probably kill someone.


747's produce around 150db's on take off.

Wouldn't that be exponential? [/b][/quote]
Yeah I fucked up.Sound is doubled every ten decibels.3 dB= double the power.The difference between 160 dB and 240 dB is 100 million times the output.Atomic blasts are right around 240 dB, hence to major shockwave.It is actually exponential from the threshold of human hearing, when expressed in Bels not dB's I believe.

Damn, I'm turning into a post whore.

PW anonymous ... sign up at your local pw corner...

-E

Yeah I fucked up.Sound is doubled every ten decibels.3 dB= double the power.The difference between 160 dB and 240 dB is 100 million times the output.Atomic blasts are right around 240 dB, hence to major shockwave.It is actually exponential from the threshold of human hearing, when expressed in Bels not dB's I believe. [/b][/quote]
Shut Up Mensa!!!

:naughty: i think if you want to talk like a teaher you should stop talking cuz,

i'm used to sleeping while they are talking!!!! :razz2: ;)

If you mensa losers want to keep yacking about dB's and other things I give not a single shit about, start another thread. You could call it the "I think I have a big brain so I am going to talk about dB's and try to sound intelligent" thread. Should be a bunch of you little nerdy dorks in there.

I'm a blonde I can't be a nerd.

I was just relating to my DB Drag Days when I was hitting 143db's.


And I know what the cars that were hitting 160db's sounded like as well as them breaking world records at the time.

Then trying to imagine 240db's is in one word....."WOW"

Anyways back on topic - did you get any video of the Dragsters? I've never seen a top fuel car in person only on TV.

Where were there Times and MPH like?

:lol: Raptor owns the adolesence.

CRAIG

adolesence?

:lol: adolescents

Sowwy, the blonde is soaking in.

CRAIG

so back to the topic........I know about the cracked manifold and all this other stuff and chris belives the car is possibly crankwalked............ :goodluck: :stick: I hope its not man im prayin to the car gods....... :cry: that things a beast I hopes its ok.... And I hopes its just bad wireing...

best of luck
Kevin

Huh did I miss something. His car isn't crankwalked not after like 1000 miles.

From the sounds of it it is a possibility. It has happened quicker than that to other rebuilt and built 7 bolts.

he told me when I called him his car just randomly shut off driving down the highway and he check he has good fuel pressure, but no spark he then unpluged his crank possition sensor and pluged in his cam angle snesor and bam it started right up...im hopeing some bad wireing or a bad sensor...and also driving his car for a prolonged period of time he literally has to pump up the clutch to get it to work right. So Like I said I hope its just bad wireing and maybe that damn gay filter running from the clutch line to the slave went bad or maybe a master cylinder.... So we will see. All I told him was not to jump to conclutions to fast. That motor should be just bullet proof I watched mike build a good chunk of it and he for sure did nothing wrong accually if I were to have someone build my motor other then myself it would be mike! no doubt. anyways Well time will tell.

Kevin

Thanks a lot guys for the ticket! I had a great time at BIR. Never experienced such a thing before in my life. If you were at ground level when a Top fuel car would go by you would get this shaking/motion blur thing. It was insane!

Man I hope I hear different about Carey's motor. :ohmy:

Around 4.60 @ 300-320 MPH After those things, 10's look slow. Best run of the weekend was a 4.53?

It was fun.

does his 7 bolt have oil squirters? balance shafts?

no and no.

I am not going to guess about the condition of his motor just for the fact that CW is the first assumption that will be on everyones mind because it is a 7 bolt. The bottom end of that thing has had every precaution to avoid that possible including the following - Mains were align bored/honed with the torque plate in place - ARP mains were used with the CRCO dowel kit, every detail was double and tripple checked. Every burr removed, every spec checked and found on the tight side of the tollerence. The lack of squirters would have nothing to do with the potential for CW since they are not there, they couldn't stick open. Also, the front balance shaft was removed, oil passages drilled, tapped and pipe plugged. Rear balance shaft was replace with one of our turned down versions. So, if this thing crankwalked, I highly suggest no one ever spends the money on building another 7 bolt. Like I said in the beginning though, I wouldn't jump to any conclusions yet, there was a lot of modded wiring on that car that could very well be responsible.

Thanks for the comments Kevin ;)

It was fun to have Jim and Ryan with us this weekend. Jim is a riot after 5 or 6 beers. Now if you could just keep him from "setting his clutch" continuously, life would be all good and the air would be cleaner. :lol:

I will be towing the car in question down to QPR so we'll see what they diagnose..!!

-E

...seating clutches... hehe ;)

Me having a few beers was the only way you fuckers could win your money back! :bounce:

Jim

I sat and talked to Russ Coxe a bit this weekend. He runs 9's on 7-bolts and only 7-bolts go in his car. He did lose a rod bearing at the SO, but doesn't have CW issues. Granted he runs an automatic, but if built right, the 7-bolts are stronger than most people think.

I would just like to know what else could have been done to prevent it in Chris's case. This just baffles me, I know the block and crank are made from a looser grained iron, but seriously, what else could cause have caused it? Any ideas are appreciated. I didn't warranty this one against CW just because the record they have, however we won't leave Chris out on this one. One way or another A, we will figure out what caused it exactly and B, fix it if possible or at least help him with a 6 Bolt. At any rate, I wouldn't recommend anyone put any significant amount of money into a 7 bolt for exactly this reason.

ACT 2900?

I'm too scared to put in my 2600. Right now I'm running a stock pressure plate and am not sure what I'll do when it craps out. Same motor, 4G64 7 bolt but with OEM bearings (ended up using 3 different sizes as per the manual/ouija board) and OEM main bolts. I've sent two samples of oil to Blackstone labs (one at 500 miles and the other at 3000) and so far so good, but I still have zero confidence in the motor. Even less now.

well I just got off the phone with chris...bad news man the motor's walked....I'll let chris tell the rest of the tale.... ohh and your also welcome Mike

Does Chris have a clutch switch bypass? This has been found as a major cause with a big clutch.