Just heard it on WCCO. No Smoking in MPLS buildings PERIOD>

I think it's dumb. Especially since STP didn't pass it.

If I don't want smoke, I don't go to a bar.


If I don't want food, I don't go to the grocery store.

I think I will smoke to that. Honestly I think it's a good idea because I hate smoking even though I smoke. For alot of people not smoking in a bar will be tough.

I think I'm going to St paul Bars from now on.

It will probably be struck down in court.

You didnt listen very well. I was just watching the news, and it has NOT passed yet. Bloomington passed it, but MPLS has not passed it yet. Bloomington goes into effect next March for all bars, rests, etc.

you don't read very well :)

Minneapolis Approves Citywide Smoking Ban

Jul 23, 2004 12:19 pm US/Central
Minneapolis (AP) The Minneapolis City Council has overwhelmingly approved a smoking ban for bars, clubs and restaurants.

The vote was 12 to 1 in favor of the ban. It goes into effect next March 31st.

Attempts to exempt smaller, neighborhood bars from the ban failed.

Mayor RT Rybak supports the measure.

The Minneapolis action follows a vote by Bloomington earlier this week.

The Bloomington ban is more restrictive because it applies to bars, restaurants and workplaces. Bloomington also banned smoking within 25 feet of entrances, exits, open windows and ventilation intakes.

Duluth did the same thing a few years ago and I highly doubt it will be changed. They did lose some business to the Superior bars b/c of it, but obviously not too much since the D-town bars are still packed. Personally I don't really care either way, I don't mind a smokey dive of a bar, but I also don't mind a clean-aired bar with luxurious chairs (Anchor vs. DAC).

As long as I can still light up the old crack pipe in the bathroom, I don't give a fuck.

Yeah good fucking idea noW the crime rate will go up because there will be a bunch of crabby pissed off fuckers that can't smoke and are drinking on top of it. Good thinking fuckers. Shit I remember when AJ tried to quit smoking, I was with him for five minutes and almost killed him. And god bless anyone who called him to hook up the cable tv in the shop. AJ quoted "WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A FUCKING TV", "DUDE....WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A FUCKING TV", "WE ARE NOT GETTING A FUCKING TV EVER SO DON'T CALL AGAIN" HANG UP...LOL.

CRAIG

that was a good day. people get the point quick when they call and ask for us to buy stupid shit.

less smoking in the world? i approve of this concept

If you can't smoke within 25ft of public places in Bloomington it will suck for people at the Mall Of America. Not only will you have to leave the mall. You'll also have to leave the parking ramp.

Not that I care as I quit smoking (cigarettes) 4 years & 4 months ago to this day :bounce:

If we were doing things for the good of the environment, and ourselves, they wouldn't make 110 Octane Gasoline, AND YOU'D ALL SHIT BRICKS!

I think it's a good idea. I don't think it's so much for the good of the patrons as it for the people that work there. If I were a bar tender that didn't smoke, I would get pretty sick of breathing that stuff everytime I go to work. So you can't smoke in a bar? Suck it up Sally, or go to St. Paul.

i like the idea.

We'd still have C-16

I would sell my car.

i don't smoke.

altough today i had one djarum black and i remembered why i don't smoke. it's pretty nasty.

i don't care if people smoke, i just try to avoid them. Or avoid the smoke at the very least.

Good idea. I hate having to smoke because the person next to me is. Finally I can make a choice.

I undoubtedly will have some form of lung disease from second hand smoke before I die.

I don't approve of government saying who can and can't allow smoking in their establishments. However, I would approve of them allowing the establishments to ban smoking if they want to, and possibly giving them a tax break or something if they do practice the optional ban.

I'm kind of neutral on the subject.

#1. I don't smoke and don't plan on ever smoking.
#2. I'm 15, don't really go out to the bars much.
#3. I don't see the reality of it. How many small bars are actually going to tell their customers they can't. Pot's illegal, too, so that means no one does it. :bs:
#4. If people want to kill themselves go ahead, people going to a bar should expect smoking. If bartenders don't want to be working in "dangerous" situations, they shouldn't be working in a bar.

california has that law statewide, but we dont have winter. Its actually pretty cool though, they set up a room for smokers that is a good way to meet people, its more of a chilling room where all the hot ass girls with fake boobs hang out. im sure most bars in minneapolis will have that too.

It's awesome, I flat love it. It's pretty much the only reason I hate going to bars, I walk out feeling like I smoked a pack or two... :cheers:

Good! will this be smoking to?

It's great. I'd love to be able to go to Applebees and eat without it smelling like an old ashtray. It'd also be nice to be at a bar and not breathe that either, but most bars I go to don't have many smokers anyways. The problem with smoking is that it affects everyone around them, so there are a lot of good reasons against it in public buildings. If you want to kill yourself and devalue your property, do it in your car or house.

Also, read farther down in the article, St. Paul's mayor says he'd approve the ban for St. Paul now. They'll probably follow suit around the same time, next spring.

Its ghey. I dont drink so Smoking is the only thing I do at the bars. So it looks like this ban has ended my Clubbing days in MPLS.

Well, when St. Paul passes it as well (which they will), then your clubbing days are probably over everywhere.
This is one of the best laws to be passed in this state ever since Ventura overturned the emissions testing. Maybe this will make smoking less 'trendy' in today's youth.

I feel the government is overstepping their boundaries in telling business owners how to run their establishment. Non-smoking supporters need to remember that smoking is LEGAL. They tend to equate it to marijuana or coke, where being around it will get you addicted or something. Until the government declares tobacco illegal, which they won't because they make too much money off it, a business owner should have the right to make rules in his own establishment.
And if there are so many people who want to go to a smoke-free bar, someone would have started one and they would be doing great business.

quite honestly when i go out, i never really notice the smoke.
maybe its the places i go to, or the people im with, but really it isnt a big deal.
the problem is the ghetto ass bars where all the hicks and WT people hang out that makes it all smoky.

also i partied in duluth a couple times and never even realized a difference with their smoking ban....

but i do think it is a good idea, smoking is bad anyways

adam

I dont smoke, so it's great for me. I wont go out for some pool and come home smelling like shit.

Im completely against it though, as far as the Gov't telling you what you can do, and holding your hand because you cant make your own decisions. Bars could have banned smoking if they wanted to.

I'm glad it's passed. It wouldn't be so bad if bar's/restaurant's actually had separate rooms for smokers/non-smoker's. I"m tired of going to places and smelling of smoke or having to inhale the shit.

I think it's retarded. I don't smoke but seriouslly, if you go to a bar, you gotta expect people to be smoking. I'd say over half of the people who go to clubs or bars are smokers, so I'm guessin this is gunna kill the bars income. What's next, no more alcohol in bars because people are tired of drunk people hitting on them?

I don't really care about bars, I don't go to them. I'm referring more so to restaurants.

*edit, this is jana*

well you oughta start! lots of fun can be had as long as you go with a fun crowd! nothing beats going to a bar, gettin shitty drunk, and making out with random ugly chicks, not remembering it, and then hearing about it the next day from people who do remember it.