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sleepydsm 07-01-2015 12:58 AM

The local low mileage $10,000 DSM...
 
Just an FYI

Some of you people may have seen over the years a 1GB Talon posted locally for about $13,000 claiming - 10,000 original miles. I have always wondered about the car, so I finally spoke with the owner, looked it over, and drove it.

1st major problem. Immediately I noticed the paint is not original. Saab Carbon Flash Metallic. Looking at the body, panels are straight, there is no orange peel. All new trim and outside panels were removed. Open the door... tape line. Jambs not done.

Pop the hood.. faded zinc plated fasteners and nuts - relatively clean, original engine bay with a few small exceptions: The 90s mod of removing the Air Can Snorkel, an old school manual boost controller, Mitsu intercooler clamps replaced with worm gear hose clamps and a seperate wire running from alt pos to battery.

Car is lowered on MEGAN springs, and has aftermarket adjustable upper control arms. Stock springs and control arms are in the trunk.

Interior is very clean, however the leather looks faded and has a lot of surface cracks. We see the 10,XXX miles gauge cluster.

The horse cock is gone, and shifter is lower. Horse cock is in the center console, and an acura integra knob was replaced.

An ACT 2600lb clutch was installed when the current owner bought the car.

The car starts instantly, is quiet, and drives smoothly.

He showed me an original fuel pump; I assume it has a walbro in it.

Car has original wheels in mint condition withe ORIGINAL TIRES. sort of silly they hold air!

So.... surprisingly decent aftermarket paint, a bunch of little mods that hurt it from being "all original", door jambs not painted. The guy is an old school DSMer

This car is super strange. Nice but is it collectible? Is this a $10,000 car? I'd argue no. Maybe $5k on a good day.

1G_DSM 07-01-2015 03:13 AM

Re: The local low mileage $10,000 DSM...
 
I bought my 94 Eagle Talon TSI in 2011 for $6,500. It had 22K original miles on it, bone stock, and super clean. When I say bone stock, I mean bone stock. It also had original tires on it.

Kracka 07-01-2015 08:26 AM

Re: The local low mileage $10,000 DSM...
 
Sad...sounds like most the mods he's done have hurt the value. Goofy list of mods. It's too bad he didn't keep the leather conditioned properly.

Goat Blower 07-01-2015 09:25 AM

Re: The local low mileage $10,000 DSM...
 
What's the guy's name? I wonder if I'd remember him. I don't remember the car.

curt_gendron 07-01-2015 09:26 AM

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Good assessment of it. You looked at all the right things. I like the fact that people are using the words "collectible" when referring to DSMs. (much better than "project car") :)

later,
Curt

sleepydsm 07-08-2015 12:41 AM

Re: The local low mileage $10,000 DSM...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Goat Blower (Post 456623)
What's the guy's name? I wonder if I'd remember him. I don't remember the car.


I believe it was "Ron". He knew Rick Shindley, and used to go down to Porkys when DSM people actually used to meet down off university.

Kracka 07-08-2015 07:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepydsm (Post 456792)
He knew Rick Shindley, and used to go down to Porkys when DSM people actually used to meet down off university.

Those were the days... I think I got into, and out of, DSM's at the exact right times.

Goat Blower 07-08-2015 10:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepydsm (Post 456792)
I believe it was "Ron". He knew Rick Shindley, and used to go down to Porkys when DSM people actually used to meet down off university.

I'd probably know him if I saw him then. I was down there a lot before I bought the GSX from Shindley.

Speedfreak 07-08-2015 11:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepydsm (Post 456792)
I believe it was "Ron". He knew Rick Shindley, and used to go down to Porkys when DSM people actually used to meet down off university.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goat Blower (Post 456804)
I'd probably know him if I saw him then. I was down there a lot before I bought the GSX from Shindley.

Was thinking the same thing, bet I'd recognize by face. There was a small crew in the mid 90's that used to be regulars most weekends. Fun times.

A//// Guy 07-08-2015 11:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 456794)
Those were the days... I think I got into, and out of, DSM's at the exact right times.

This exactly. Perfect timing to get in and get my money out! lol

Kracka 07-08-2015 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by A//// Guy (Post 456811)
This exactly. Perfect timing to get in and get my money out! lol

I think both you and I sold for higher than we bought :D

Goat Blower 07-08-2015 02:38 PM

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Mine's been paid for for the last 15 years, so I don't care that it's worth half of what I paid for it. :D

dogwhistle 07-08-2015 08:22 PM

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I'd even argue DSM's are on the rise in value after they hit rock bottom maybe 2-3 years ago. Though I can't say the current community is growing or better than "the good ol' days" of my seniors. :)

goodhart 07-08-2015 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dogwhistle (Post 456841)
I'd even argue DSM's are on the rise in value after they hit rock bottom maybe 2-3 years ago. Though I can't say the current community is growing or better than "the good ol' days" of my seniors. :)

Community has gone to shit almost completely :frown:

Goat Blower 07-09-2015 10:30 AM

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I think a lot of the OG's that still have these go to the shootout, I'm on the fence on if I can get all the things I want done by then.

The local scene is dead, at least until Swalchick gets another 1G. :D

turbotalon1g 07-09-2015 11:51 AM

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There are a few people locally still.

curt_gendron 07-10-2015 09:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Goat Blower (Post 456852)

The local scene is dead, at least until Swalchick gets another 1G. :D


No kidding.. I can't even get local DSMers to come to meets that are a mile away from their houses. :)

tehehodi 07-10-2015 10:00 AM

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Cause they all drive evos.

tpunx99GSX 07-10-2015 10:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepydsm (Post 456792)
I believe it was "Ron". He knew Rick Shindley, and used to go down to Porkys when DSM people actually used to meet down off university.

Did the guy "Ron", Happen to mention anything about owning an Eagle Talon 2g back then? I wonder if its the guy i was thinking of, Heavy set guy, talks alot, has the stink of used car salesmen?

A//// Guy 07-10-2015 10:10 AM

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I keep seeing those pokes at people not coming to mitsu meets. Meets are not what they used to be. When we were all younger, we had nothing better to do besides hang out with friends a few times a week. Bit different now with jobs, school, family, houses to maintain, those with kids. The list goes on and on. I find myself with not enough time in the day to even get daily stuff done, let alone sit around in a parking lot for an hour with people I barely know. Most friends I still hang out with on here are over parking lot meets, and instead meet at restaurants and patios to enjoy food and their company.

Curt I know you are super gung -ho about mitsus, but not all of us have that passion to dedicate every waking moment to mitsus. I haven't even made a cars and coffee yet this year, which is on the list of things to get to one of these months. lol You have to realize that people move on to different platforms and the Mitsu community is going to only get smaller and smaller locally. Maybe creating a group dedicated to imports would open the gate to more people, or open it up to various makes. Myself and quite a few others who started off with mitsus/dsms are probably done with mitsu after tasting what some other manufacturers have to offer. The reason this site is still going, is because of us OGs who still come on here to chat with friends and talk about politics LOL. Otherwise it really shouldnt even be a mitsu site anymore IMO.

Im not sure the last time you made a meet that wasn't your own or a 3S event, this is the strange part. We used to have weekly meets and I dont think I saw you at any. Theres also proving grounds and various track events that people partake in each week, so its all about balance and fitting in what people want to do. /rant

tpunx99GSX 07-10-2015 10:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dogwhistle (Post 456841)
I'd even argue DSM's are on the rise in value after they hit rock bottom maybe 2-3 years ago. Though I can't say the current community is growing or better than "the good ol' days" of my seniors. :)

Still dont understand how DSMs are going for so damn much lately. My last two dsms were 2gs from when i was in california. The 96 GST was $2500 with a couple mods done, in decent shape not too bad. the 96 GSX was bone stock, decent milage, had a leaky radiator, and i bought it for $2000, swapped radiators quickly and drove it home. Its rediculous that people want even $5k for them. makes no sense.

blesi660r 07-10-2015 12:24 PM

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There getting older and harder to find in OK to good condition, I had one guy come look at my talon for 3k and he's the one that took it home as well, it's not easy to sell a dsm as its definitely a nitch type of enthusiast that likes these cars, mine was like a 8 out of 10 for a 1g compared to what was for sale on Craigslist and mine still needed a little dent removal, and had almost zero rust

AwdGSX13 07-10-2015 12:31 PM

Re: The local low mileage $10,000 DSM...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blesi660r (Post 456885)
There getting older and harder to find in OK to good condition, I had one guy come look at my talon for 3k and he's the one that took it home as well, it's not easy to sell a dsm as its definitely a nitch type of enthusiast that likes these cars, mine was like a 8 out of 10 for a 1g compared to what was for sale on Craigslist and mine still needed a little dent removal, and had almost zero rust


I agree, for people that would actually want one of these still are going to pay a little more because of how hard it is to come by one that isn't beat to hell. I paid 3500 for mine and it was stock with zero rust and no body damage and is one of the cleanest I've seen in awhile.

For the most part, the people who have owned or do own are a younger generation that just doesn't take care of them and they end up in a junkyard, parted, or just plain rusty.

curt_gendron 07-10-2015 02:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by A//// Guy (Post 456882)
I keep seeing those pokes at people not coming to mitsu meets. Meets are not what they used to be. When we were all younger, we had nothing better to do besides hang out with friends a few times a week. Bit different now with jobs, school, family, houses to maintain, those with kids. The list goes on and on. I find myself with not enough time in the day to even get daily stuff done, let alone sit around in a parking lot for an hour with people I barely know. Most friends I still hang out with on here are over parking lot meets, and instead meet at restaurants and patios to enjoy food and their company.

Curt I know you are super gung -ho about mitsus, but not all of us have that passion to dedicate every waking moment to mitsus. I haven't even made a cars and coffee yet this year, which is on the list of things to get to one of these months. lol You have to realize that people move on to different platforms and the Mitsu community is going to only get smaller and smaller locally. Maybe creating a group dedicated to imports would open the gate to more people, or open it up to various makes. Myself and quite a few others who started off with mitsus/dsms are probably done with mitsu after tasting what some other manufacturers have to offer. The reason this site is still going, is because of us OGs who still come on here to chat with friends and talk about politics LOL. Otherwise it really shouldnt even be a mitsu site anymore IMO.

Im not sure the last time you made a meet that wasn't your own or a 3S event, this is the strange part. We used to have weekly meets and I dont think I saw you at any. Theres also proving grounds and various track events that people partake in each week, so its all about balance and fitting in what people want to do. /rant

My rib was mainly directed at Steve Hill. He came to one of the first Tuesday meets but hasn't been back. And he literally lives within walking distance of Culvers. So that was a friendly poke for him.

Mitsustyle is only a small part of the local Mitsu scene. There is the EVOMN board and several Facebook groups. There are still a lot of Mitsus running around. A majority of them are EVOs and other newer models, but they are out there. I think the OGs don't really notice (or care) about the local Mitsu scene because you moved on. Which I totally understand.

I've gone to the May and June Cars and Coffee, the Eminent Fidelity meet in June, the Nissan/Infiniti go-karts a few Tuesdays ago. And I'm going to the Driveshafts and Daily Dose meet in Maple Grove meet tonight. I really enjoy the local car scene and tons of other people do to. I know a lot of people grow out of it when they get older, but not me. I'm flying the Mitsu flag and hanging out in parking lots until I can't walk anymore. :)

later,
Curt

DSMINMN 07-10-2015 07:08 PM

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As one of the younger few on this form I would like to add; speak for yourselves. I can list a few worthless members on this site. I know of another member for instance that still owes someone money for a certain car they bought and sold. So for that person? Sure. Let's not generalize all the younger members off of some non-basis having, no backing and ridiculous assumptions.

Oh, my cars are all pretty damn nice too. ;)

God bless.


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