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1ViciousGSX 03-12-2015 06:24 PM

Two cops shot in Ferguson,....
 
Discuss!

SlowWhite 03-13-2015 04:33 AM

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this just happen? Hadnt heard anything.. (starts google search)

SlowWhite 03-13-2015 04:39 AM

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"he shots were believed to come from a handgun across the street from the police department, which has been a national focal point since the fatal Aug. 9 shooting of Michael Brown, who was black and unarmed, by a white police officer"

the media has so much to do with this shooting as anyone - when they write crap they need to tell the complete story. ya he was unarmed - but why doesnt it state the fact that it happened after he attacked the police officer and grabbed his gun, etc, etc.

Leaving out key information like that makes people who might not know the whole story think, it was just a black guy walking down the street and got shot by a police officer.

I honestly the media needs to start being held responsible for the twists they try to push on the public. And the government IMO needs to bring back sensorship programs

Kracka 03-13-2015 09:35 AM

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The cops should have put their hands up in the air and yelled "Don't shoot!"

I'm honestly surprised it took this long though. That city is in need of martial law.

Goat Blower 03-13-2015 09:41 AM

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Censorship? No, absolutely not. But they are trying, think "net neutrality", the recent law that just passed.

Our elected leaders had every bit as much to do with this as the media, maybe more so in this case. All that stuff about us all getting along better after January 20th, 2009 didn't quite come true. Exactly the opposite I'd say.

Kracka 03-13-2015 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Goat Blower (Post 453759)
Our elected leaders had every bit as much to do with this as the media, maybe more so in this case. All that stuff about us all getting along better after January 20th, 2009 didn't quite come true. Exactly the opposite I'd say.

I completely agree; Obama and Holder fanned the flames in Ferguson from the get-go. The racial divide in this country has gotten noticeably wider too (with studies and surveys to back it up).

1ViciousGSX 03-13-2015 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Goat Blower (Post 453759)
Censorship? No, absolutely not. But they are trying, think "net neutrality", the recent law that just passed.

Our elected leaders had every bit as much to do with this as the media, maybe more so in this case. All that stuff about us all getting along better after January 20th, 2009 didn't quite come true. Exactly the opposite I'd say.

+1

1ViciousGSX 03-13-2015 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 453760)
I completely agree; Obama and Holder fanned the flames in Ferguson from the get-go. The racial divide in this country has gotten noticeably wider too (with studies and surveys to back it up).

And they should be held accountable!

tpunx99GSX 03-13-2015 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Goat Blower (Post 453759)
Censorship? No, absolutely not. But they are trying, think "net neutrality", the recent law that just passed.

Please explain your point on Net Neutrality... Not sure by your statement if you understand it or not.

tpunx99GSX 03-13-2015 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 453760)
I completely agree; Obama and Holder fanned the flames in Ferguson from the get-go. The racial divide in this country has gotten noticeably wider too (with studies and surveys to back it up).

I was wondering when you were going to blame obama. :nope:

Trogdor 03-13-2015 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX (Post 453770)
I was wondering when you were going to blame obama. :nope:

#ThanksObama

AwdGSX13 03-13-2015 11:40 AM

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Media is definitely a problem in this country, some are so biased in what they choose to report. You also do not see them reporting on the black cops who kill black people?? Or black cops whom kill white people?? They should be held accountable for stirring the pot.

#alllivesmatter

Alpha D 03-13-2015 12:22 PM

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What happens when greed fuels an economy...what ever makes the most hits

SlowWhite 03-13-2015 01:17 PM

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Part of my censorship deal refers to the type of lyrics played on radio, video games, and movies.

Seeing a 7yr old at the theatres watching "the hangover" including all the nude scenes at the end.

Is wrong and when we asked the theatre manager about it. They said its law says its not up to use, so long as they are accompanied by an adult they can be brought in.

Thats just an example of why I believe there are plenty of cases where the governments need to set laws to help combat , stupidity of parents sometime.

Remember when "two live crew" or what ever was banned in the USA. For there lyrics about treatment of women. Now adays that would probably be rated pg13.

And to make change it has to start with the children. Like the saying goes "cant teach an old dog new tricks" bring back the meaning of honor,respect in one's self and things can change back for the better.

1ViciousGSX 03-13-2015 01:28 PM

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What the media won't talk about is how the high ratio of black arrest/crime vs white arrest/crime in Ferguson is simply in the demographics. But that doesn't matter when you're pushing an agenda,......

As of the 2010 census,[4] there were 21,203 people, 8,192 households, and 5,500 families residing in the city. The population density was 3,425.4 inhabitants per square mile (1,322.6/km2). There were 9,105 housing units at an average density of 1,470.9 per square mile (567.9/km2). The racial makeup of the city was 67.4% African American, 29.3% White, 0.5% Asian, 0.4% Native American, 0.4% from other races, and 2.0% from two or more races. Hispanic and Latino of any race were 1.2% of the population.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferguson,_Missouri

And yes, the shooting of those two police officers falls right at the hands of the press, Obama and Holder for stoking the flames of racism since Michael Brown attacked Officer Wilson through the window of his police vehicle while going for his gun. The facts clearly showed after all this time that Michael Brown was clearly at fault as Holder's DOJ report clearly shows.

jeremy1375 03-13-2015 01:32 PM

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There's no excuse for shooting a cop. The person/people responsible are guilty as shit of attempted murder and should be prosecuted at such.

Having said that, I support the protests and what they stand for. I am very aware that my life wouldn't have been as easy had I been born black instead of white. I can only imagine the petty crimes I committed as a kid would have been dealt with much differently had I been a person of color. Racism exists in this country whether people reject the notion or not. I am not consciously racist, but I certainly grew up learning to see black people as somehow different. That notion runs deep within the history of the USA whether you acknowledge it or not.

There is still a generation of black folks alive that lived through the Jim Crow days. They may have had friends or family strung up and hung by the KKK. They may have survived a nigger hunt. The history for the majority of black families whose ancestors came over as slaves most likely doesn't include any type of wealth or privilege.

The big picture of these protests is to bring into the nations consciousness the idea that blacks are equal to whites in every way. That is not how the nation unconsciously sees things.

Trogdor 03-13-2015 01:37 PM

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And then this happened... Apparently this guy thinks that the police were in on killing two of their own just to blame black people...
http://controversialtimes.com/news/c...by-cops-video/

1ViciousGSX 03-13-2015 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowWhite (Post 453781)
And to make change it has to start with the children. Like the saying goes "cant teach an old dog new tricks" bring back the meaning of honor,respect in one's self and things can change back for the better.

+1

He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future.
-Adolf Hitler


That also works to destroy a nation if you destroy it's youth, just look around.

tehehodi 03-13-2015 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX (Post 453785)
+1

He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future.
-Adolf Hitler


That also works to destroy a nation if you destroy it's youth, just look around.

We can blame Kanye West and Miley Cyrus.

1ViciousGSX 03-13-2015 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jeremy1375 (Post 453783)
Having said that, I support the protests and what they stand for. I am very aware that my life wouldn't have been as easy had I been born black instead of white. I can only imagine the petty crimes I committed as a kid would have been dealt with much differently had I been a person of color. Racism exists in this country whether people reject the notion or not. I am not consciously racist, but I certainly grew up learning to see black people as somehow different. That notion runs deep within the history of the USA whether you acknowledge it or not.

The big picture of these protests is to bring into the nations consciousness the idea that blacks are equal to whites in every way. That is not how the nation unconsciously sees things.

"Stop talking about it"
https://youtu.be/wMGfhXCpN2k


The truth of the matter is that we all have access to a proper education and making ourselves better. Some choose not too while some just can't. Equal input does not guarantee equal results. I graduated high school in the mid '80s while going through segregated busing and schools because minorities were always crying about how their schools were inferior, their class rooms were inferior, their school desk were inferior, their teachers were inferior, etc, etc, etc. So instead of going to the school that was less than one mile away I had a 40 minute bus ride each way to and from my home to a minority area while passing up buses from that minority community going into and out of mine. I sat in class rooms with clowns who wanted to play all day and act like they owned the world or were owed something, being white or black didn't matter, both races had clowns, just like both races had learners/achievers. The end result was what you woud expect, those that applied themselves were rewarded with an education and became successful, those who didn't blamed everything, everybody else, the system, rasicsm, etc., anything else they could think of except for looking inward at themselves. Same thing is going on today. Keep talking about racism and the black community will never see itself as able to get ahead because there will always be some contrived underlying "plot" against them. Makes me think about that elephant thats tied to a string and goes nowhere because it's been made to believe it can't.

jeremy1375 03-13-2015 03:35 PM

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The link for your video is dead.

I don't believe not talking about it is a solution at all. This video was in one of the other threads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLdVztcWJDo

The guy showed his gun because he was scared of the black guy approaching him. That is the undercurrent of racism that exists. People learn to be racist and it's passed down from generations. On the other side, fear and anger from being discriminated against is also learned and passed down through generations.

If nobody ever talked about any of this, slavery would still exist.

SlowWhite 03-13-2015 04:33 PM

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Also I can understand protesting. How ever if people want others to change the way they view what has now gotten to the point of thinking its a majority of the population.
Then maybe they should be protesting or actively trying to go directly to the areas or groups thay are causing people to think of a certain culture negatively.

Basically you dont go to a job interview with your pants around your ankles, drunk, or in a bikini, nor do you go to church dressed like shit. So clearly people grasp this concept. So you dress up so people take you seriously and think of you as respectable, honorable, responsible etc.

Start protesting at schools where kids dress like shit, start protesting about video games that promote killing civilians or police, start protesting at your government to actually make changes where they are supposed to be.

As a culture dont bitch about someone who robbed a store and got shot while trying to escape, and after assaulting a police office while trying to get the officer gun (anyone who reaches for an officers gun, what do you think there intentions are? To pawn it? Had he gotten it he would have fired at the officer, so even the attempt of him going for the gun should then be a charge of attempted murder of a policeman. Wtf will that solve blaming police for trying to protect whats left of the responsible citizens.

I guess i no respect or sympathy for peoplem like Michael brown and I certainlyndont have respect for those protesting on his behalf. They are part of the problem not the solution

1ViciousGSX 03-13-2015 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jeremy1375 (Post 453795)
The link for your video is dead.

I don't believe not talking about it is a solution at all. This video was in one of the other threads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLdVztcWJDo

The guy showed his gun because he was scared of the black guy approaching him. That is the undercurrent of racism that exists. People learn to be racist and it's passed down from generations. On the other side, fear and anger from being discriminated against is also learned and passed down through generations.

If nobody ever talked about any of this, slavery would still exist.

Sorry about that, it's fixed now.
https://youtu.be/wMGfhXCpN2k

When I read these types of comments in threads it makes me shake my head wondering if you truly interact with people of color on a regular basis or if you are going by what you read and see on TV. I'm in the south and I work with many blacks (and Latinos/Mexicans), color doesn't matter to me, I treat everybody with respect and they treat me with respect. Might be hard to believe that all us white southerners aren't racist if you watch enough MSNBC, CNN, SHARPTON, JACKSON, ETC. I work at a Porsche dealership with many blacks, some are very successful business people and some I wouldn't trust to mop the floor. And you know what, there are whites here that fit both of those catagories too, imagine that. I also work with many customers of all races that easily fit into each of those catagories. But what I do see in one catagory that I don't see in others, the blacks who don't apply themselves want to blame their poor performace and failures on some mystical "oppression by the man" instead of working hard like the rest of us. They don't seem to understand that if you want to make big money, you have to be a big asset to the business, not a leech. I see it all the time, the guy that half ass washes a car will be the one complaining about how he's under paid and "the man is keeping him down".

There's a big difference between the slavery of generations ago and whats happening today. Back then slavery was legal and should have been talked about because a race of people were being abused and held against their will.
Today they are choosing to buy into the "oppression" and becoming modern day slaves of their own making.

SlowWhite 03-13-2015 05:50 PM

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For reference - I am one of 6 whites at the plant I work at out of 109 people. Excluding office managers.

And viscous is right the dress code and conduct goes both ways. This story. Happens to be about blacks vs policies im sure mind sets are focused on that.

As for an example of white doing the same crap. Where I live there is a whole section of town
That has gotten the nick name "east camden" and for the most part if you are what most consider to be a redneck around here you live in that area of town. It also happens to have the highest rate of bar fights in the city.
My wife stopped doing wedding photography for people who are having there weddings over on that Sid of town strictly because of to many instances where police had to be called or fights broke out.

Money isn't worth her safety or the damage it would do to my kids if something happened to her.

And like viscous said -most plants in this area work off of a "temp" agency to hire people because of the exact same issue he mentioned. At first I couldn't believe the situation. I had to work 9months as a temp before getting hired. But after 6yrs of working here I've seen first hand why this particular plant is having problems getting new business/corporate funding to expand.
This area has one the highest turn over rates around because of how many people we have to let go, for stuff that I never would have imagined being an issue up north (at least I never experienced it, jobs I heldmpreviously I guess people just understood the meaning of work)

1ViciousGSX 03-13-2015 06:13 PM

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Thank you SnowWhite for getting it.

The reason I posted the Morgan Freeman video is because he is correct. As long as we keep creating/defining people by color or race things will never get better.

Want a good example, go to your neighborhood pre-school/toddler center where the children haven't been exposed to "race" and you'll see them all getting along, well except for the child that wants all the cookies for him/her self and takes them regardless of skin color. Children/people are not born racist. That seed is planted somewhere during their formative years. All it takes is that first comment or statement where they perceive that color of the skin some how makes a person different or looked down upon. That same seed is planted by the race baiters and black community upon itself that no matter how hard you work, you'll never be successful because you are black so don't even try.

jeremy1375 03-13-2015 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX (Post 453800)
The reason I posted the Morgan Freeman video is because he is correct....

In this video, Morgan Freeman says the Tea Party's agenda to get rid of Obama is racist. I'm not sure the stop talking about it concept is a fully coherent idea that he really believes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm6Iszm31qI

1ViciousGSX 03-13-2015 06:48 PM

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Can't always agree with everything everybody says, but in the video I posted, I feel he is 100% correct.

jeremy1375 03-13-2015 07:08 PM

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I like the way Chris Rock puts it in this video. In a nutshell, he says that true equality is when a black guy that sucks at his job is looked at the same as a white guy that sucks at his.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3JtV5VnU-s

SlowWhite 03-13-2015 07:15 PM

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The other thing I noticed is. At the website I read this all from (yahoo news)
The author was always saying micheal a black male was shot and killed by a white officer.

Then in this new development there was nothinf said about what color the shooters were or what color the officers that were shot were.

So why use color for one but not the other. Or why use color at all?

To me it again shows blatant example of pushing and agenda or topic.

1ViciousGSX 03-13-2015 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowWhite (Post 453804)
The other thing I noticed is. At the website I read this all from (yahoo news)
The author was always saying micheal a black male was shot and killed by a white officer.

Then in this new development there was nothinf said about what color the shooters were or what color the officers that were shot were.

So why use color for one but not the other. Or why use color at all?

To me it again shows blatant example of pushing and agenda or topic.

+1

AJ 03-13-2015 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Trogdor (Post 453784)
And then this happened... Apparently this guy thinks that the police were in on killing two of their own just to blame black people...
http://controversialtimes.com/news/c...by-cops-video/


How a guy like that holds a city manager position is nuts.

1ViciousGSX 03-13-2015 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by AJ (Post 453807)
How a guy like that holds a city manager position is nuts.

You could ask that question about a lot of people in government.

SlowWhite 03-13-2015 08:50 PM

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Way off topic but with viscous comment I have to post this.
Although I forget what he was running for but last year a guy who was running for some office pretty much spent his whole campaign focused on legalizing pot. All his signs etc all had pot leafs on them. (If i remember correctly the guy was ex pro football player) anyrate he almost won his election . Scary part is when legalizing pot is your primary focus and goal for when you are in office. Wtf does that say for our governement and its standards and priorities?
Saw on facebook a perfect example of this yesterday. Was a picture stating that we give 2 billion dollars a year to Israel (shows a pictures of its gleaming city) then at the bottom it states that we gave Detroit "0" money last year and shows a picture of the state Detroit is in.
I cant figure out how to share the link to the picture. But wish I could.

polishmafia 03-16-2015 08:53 AM

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The suspect was arrested and claimed he wasn't aiming at the police officers. Solid story, stick with it bro.

1ViciousGSX 03-16-2015 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SlowWhite (Post 453810)
Way off topic but with viscous comment I have to post this.
Although I forget what he was running for but last year a guy who was running for some office pretty much spent his whole campaign focused on legalizing pot. All his signs etc all had pot leafs on them. (If i remember correctly the guy was ex pro football player) anyrate he almost won his election . Scary part is when legalizing pot is your primary focus and goal for when you are in office. Wtf does that say for our governement and its standards and priorities?
Saw on facebook a perfect example of this yesterday. Was a picture stating that we give 2 billion dollars a year to Israel (shows a pictures of its gleaming city) then at the bottom it states that we gave Detroit "0" money last year and shows a picture of the state Detroit is in.
I cant figure out how to share the link to the picture. But wish I could.


Here ya go.

Goat Blower 03-16-2015 10:02 AM

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If you're going to bring up Israel, you need to look at all the countries we give billions to that burn our flags in the streets. Israel has long been our ally in the Middle East. Maybe not so much these days though.

Speedfreak 03-16-2015 10:13 AM

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Who we give money to in the open or behind the scenes is a whole other gigantic can of worms. One big game risk/monopoly/settlers of Catan that governments and billionaires play.

1ViciousGSX 03-16-2015 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Goat Blower (Post 453850)
If you're going to bring up Israel, you need to look at all the countries we give billions to that burn our flags in the streets. Israel has long been our ally in the Middle East. Maybe not so much these days though.

+1

SlowWhite 03-16-2015 04:28 PM

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And once again. I just read the article about the capture. And although yes there was a picture of him at the top. Not once did I see anywhere them state colors of the shooter or police.

I also took notice that the protesters mentioned that yes this was a step back but thay they could be proud for the, house cleaning, of the police department and that they look for reform.

I for one cant help but think again. Why aren't they protesting about the criminal actions? They are the ones causing this mess. The police are just doing there jobs. And all this is doing is telling our police that they cant do there jobs.

AwdGSX13 03-16-2015 05:03 PM

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Its the same reason the media never puts out stories about black cops killing black people or black cops killing white people..


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