Jordanian pilot burned alive by terrorist
 

NWS, and not for those who are squeamish or can't deal with the reality of the world we live in,.....

Discuss,.....

http://www.freepatriotpost.com/breaking-as-promised-jordan-says-will-execute-all-isis-prisoners-tonight/

Video is at the bottom of the page, skip to around 18 minutes in.

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The act is pretty horrendous, but hats off to the Jordanian's for their response! The freaking president was bombing them him in a fighter jet, bad ass! Can you imagine Obama being anywhere remotely close to a battle? They also took 2 Al Qaida/ISIS prisoners outside and shot them in response.

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Wipe these fuckers off the face of this earth. The King of Jordan has proven he is a true leader who actually cares about his people; other leaders worldwide, please take note.

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I agree 100%.

I don't think we should ever have a president that doesn't have military experience. But there is always the exception to that.

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The only good thing that can come of this is the fact that they are not held back with american war laws. They can simply handle isis how they please. And hopefully they will pay them back in the same ways they have treated other prisoners.

I know ISIS just executed a Japanese journalist as well, so i am hoping that Japan will also jump in and make them pay. One thing they are not good at is making friends. They can all be killed in the same manner for all i care.

Obama would never step anywhere near danger haha..At least the old bush had some military background

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Is it me, or does ISIS seem really well funded and professional? That video seems to be too well made to come from a bunch of desert terrorist.

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It's all stolen money. When they move through villages/towns they loot and steal.

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Yeah, I get that, but who would think they could put together a video that well with special effects and all. And who is selling them those weapons, etc?

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They are being funded by someone, I don't believe it is all stolen.

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Do they carry any relation with al qaeda?? or Taliban or any group like that? I mean I understand they all fall under the same agenda. But Al Qaeda was pretty well funded.

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They are very well-funded. They captured a couple of oil fields early on and have been selling oil on the black market for about a year, making millions a day.

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That makes sense, the campaign should start by re-capturing these fields.

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Cut off the flow of money and you'll cut off their power. Anything they control that's worth anything needs to either be taken or destroyed.

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^agreed. then cut off other things at the same time. such as their body parts.

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Did someone say take their oil?
http://www.reactionface.info/sites/d...0566813336.jpg

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This is what people are trying to do through the proper channels, but as those in Jordan noticed, proper doesn't do shit. Someone will need to make the decision to either take troops to get those oil field back (with obvious death toll on both sides) or bomb that shit into next year (then no one gets the oil for the time being).

Props to their King. As for Obama, dudes an out of touch tool that gets by being a hell of a public speaker...

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+1

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Sadly enough, this all would've never happened if Bush was still in charge. We defeated these clowns in 2006 and his royal highness Obama decided to end the war early, pull everybody out, and release most of the captured terrorists back to go fight. Now we're back in Iraq refighting the people we had beaten. Shows you how well liberalism works.

Cue three page rant by Tom in 3....2....1....

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If Reagan were president we'd have gone all out on destroying their asses after the first American had his head cut off.

Sadly enough, we're in the age of the military/industrial complex and war is money.

LoL

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Oh man. A lot of stupidity in this thread.
First off, It would be completely ridiculous to have the American President in a fighter jet. Way too much risk for the leader of the free world. I dont care who is the president, republican or democrat, We are all more stupid from hearing your idiotic statement.

Firstly, we didnt defeat these clowns in 2006, look at the casualty lists since 2006. We pulled out because the war was not a winnable one. There is no leader of their movement to concede the war, and the factions that exist in that world are not readily defined. In WW2 and WW1, the germans had leaders and a structure that was able to concede, they were uniformed so we actually knew who we were fighting. The difference between this Unwinnable war is their "troops" are not uniformed, and have taken the strategies of Vietnam. Shit we bomb one cell of terrorists and even though the people we kill ARE terrorists, their propaganda machine can easily come out and say "these people were regular citizens, just look at their clothes" and the american people eat it up and think we are committing atrocities over there.
Bush was not the answer, he knew the terrorists were in Afghanistan and Pakistan, yet somehow we ended up in Iraq. (i.e. oil). He called Mission Accomplished, in 2003, yet the mission was not nearly done.
Obama didnt end the war EARLY. and it drives me crazy when i see people say that. How long were you expecting us to be in these countries? And prior to the withdrawal the republicans and democrats were both saying "Let these countries deal with their own problems". But for some reason NOW you want us to be the World Police. If we dont take into account the Loss of our soldiers lives over there, and focus on fiscal responsibility, we have spent over 4.4 TRILLION Dollars there. And you want more war and more money to be put there? The estimate for the cost of deploying one U.S. soldier in Afghanistan is over $1 million a year.
Couple facts about this great war Since 2001:
- over 6800 troops have died.
- $4.4 Trillion dollars spent on wars in Iraq and Afghanistan
- over 350,000 people (on both sides) have died as a result of the wars.
- Civil liberties we had before the war, are long since gone. People trust the government much less than we did before the war.

Long enough for ya?

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^ +1

Global oil market with OPEC in control makes all this possible. All of these terrorists get funded by oil money one way or the other. All of the oil producing middle eastern countries would be piss poor and irrelevant if it wasn't for oil.

Alternative energy is the answer. We just need an actual policy and goal to push for development sooner rather than later since there is no reason why capital markets would want to solve the problem.

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We don't need OPEC. There's plenty of oil here at home. But your commander in chief keeps hindering the ability to get it. That's why every time we get closer to becoming energy independent the price of oil plummets just like it did recently. They need us more than we need them.

Can't have capital markets in an overly regulated government controlled economy. The government is picking winners and losers, and we're the losers.

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Saudi Arabia can produce oil for around $10 a barrel. U.S. shale operations costs to produce oil are around $50 and up per barrel. March crude futures are trading around $52.70 as I write this.

OPEC has the ability to put our operations out of business as we're seeing by their current policy. We saw their power in the '70's. Then when they cut production in 2008 by more than a million barrels a day. Now they leave the tap wide open and show that our operations can not compete if they do so.

Capitalism can not compete when the rest of the worlds oil is government controlled and cheaper to produce than ours.

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Shale is not the only place we can get oil. We have many oil reserves that are on lockdown.

Obviously Canada has enoough on tap to warrant having the Keystone pipeline go right through the middle of our country to feed oil tankers in the Gulf of Mexico for export to other countries, if it ever gets approved by our liar in cheif.

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Middle Eastern countries can do it cheaper than us. Our easy oil is gone.



Lifting Costs Finding Costs Total Upstream Costs
United States – Average $12.18 $21.58 $33.76
On-shore $12.73 $18.68 $31.38
Off-shore $10.09 $41.51 $51.60

All Other Countries – Average $9.95 $15.13 $25.08
Canada $12.69 $12.07 $24.76
Africa $10.31 $35.01 $45.32
Middle East $9.89 $6.99 $16.88
Central & South America $6.21 $20.43 $26.64

http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=367&t=6

"Canadian oil sands — slated to be a top consumer of the pipeline — will need oil prices to stay between $65 and $75 a barrel to make production there economically feasible."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...ject/18994601/

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Natural gas is mixed into that equation, so it's hard to tell what the true cost of the oil is.

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How about this data. Our reserves are deep water and arctic. The prices for our methods begin past the high end of middle eastern country costs.


Oilfields Estimated Production
/source Costs ($ 2008)
Mideast/N.Africa oilfields 6 - 28
Other conventional oilfields 6 - 39
CO2 enhanced oil recovery 30 - 80
Deep/ultra-deep-water oilfields 32 - 65
Enhanced oil recovery 32 - 82
Arctic oilfields 32 - 100
Heavy oil/bitumen 32 - 68
Oil shales 52 - 113
Gas to liquids 38 - 113
Coal to liquids 60 - 113

Source: International Energy Agency World Energy Outlook 2008

http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/...12407420090728

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Quoting something from nearly a decade ago is basically pointless.

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Our drilling has become more technically challenging, while the middle east's hasn't. What paradigm shift has occurred to indicate that the point I'm making is dated by that data?

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Alternative energy is a joke, as witnessed by Solyndra and other companies our government have poured billions into and then closed their doors. If something is economically feasible, it should be self-suffiicient, not dependent on constant taxpayer funding. Oil and nuclear are the answer, lift the stupid regulations on them trying to make silly ideas like solar and wind feasible. Both have some merit, but only in certain locations and situations.

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Open up ANWR and those problems all go away.

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Alternative energy loses steam when oil gets cheap. There is no infrastructure for it at this point. Solar and wind during the day converted and stored as hydrogen would be one way to work toward solving the issue. Getting people on board is the hard part when alternative energy can't compete with cheap oil.

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The middle east wins in all oil scenarios.

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Other than cars, we should have made huge moves to solar a decade ago,.. but its hard to tax and regulate the Sun, and there lies the problem.
"If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand."-Milton Friedman

Yep.

And this.
http://thehill.com/policy/energy-env...rilling-rights
I like how the government auctions off something that doesn't belong to the government. Open it up and watch oil prices go down rapidly.

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^ The middle east will still be profitable selling their oil. They will continue to sell their oil and the market will increase as China and India continue to industrialize. The U.S. leads the way in technology. If we adopt alternative energy and make it work, others will follow.

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OPEC and the Saudies can't keep their oil prices below $50 for the long term. They are just playing a power grab right now, that's the only reason they did it. You really think that if it weren't for the Keystone vote coming up weeks ago that the price of oil would have came down anyway?

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The major problem is that Saudi Arabia is the largest oil producer in the world and they can control the price because of that. If we produce more than them, supply will overwhelm demand and price will crash unless they cut production. They can always produce cheaper than us and middle east stays rich in oil money. No end ever to oil money for terrorists.

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We don't have to out produce them, all we have to do is become less dependent on foreign oil and the effect will be dramatic.

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How does that scenario play out?

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We as a country do import a lot of oil, but we also produce a lot for our own use.

If OPEC and the Saudies have such a monopoly on low cost production, our ramping up production for our own use shouldn't really scare them, but it did. Just like politicians, don't pay attention to what they say, pay attention to what they do. They last thing they want is an oil independent USA.