Heads - Who needs 'em?!
 

Like the title asks; who needs a head?

Currently I have 6 & 7 bolt heads ready to be rebuilt and sold. They can be stock rebuilds or performance based; it's up to you. The price will vary from what each individual wants to have done. You may also supply your own head if you wish.

The story behind this post goes as follows; I am attending Northwest Technical College to become a High Performance Engine Machinist. In one of the few cylinder heads classes I have this semester I must rebuild 6 sets of heads. Now if I were a V8 guy this wouldn't be a problem. Since I have zero use for any V8 heads, I have stuck with 4g63s. Now because of this, I have to complete 12 heads. Personally I have ZERO use for 12 4g63 heads. lol

Three or possibly four heads would be the MAXIMUM number of heads I could currently use on my own projects. Even that may be pushing it.

4g63

Clean and check - $20

Pressure test - $15

Valve job - $90

Resurface - $20

6g72

Clean and check - $40

Pressure test - $30

Valve job - $135

Resurface - $25

Guide and seat work will vary on number needing to be replaced.

Feel free to post up questions or concerns! If you're interested feel free to PM me as well!

Thanks!

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What's the cheapest?

No offense, but you can get a cheapish head job from local cyl head places not some kid in school.

But I like cheap head pretty much whenever where I can get it.

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Don't we all.

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What're we talking? Disassemble, clean, bead blast, valve job, oil port mod, resurface? Maybe clean up all that inside flashing from these heads being cast faster than you could say Mitsubishi?

In all honesty; I can do nearly anything for about half of what most shops will charge. To be downright honest, the quality is there as well. Judge the fact I am still in school but remember that everyone has to start somewhere. No one is born with the knowledge to be a machinist, the ability to walk up to and operator a machine either.

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Again, I wasn't trying to offend you.

That sounds good and you should add that first paragraph to your original post.
What would the price be for a basic cleanup like that?

Quality will be in the pie, until you have trap speeds/dyno sheets/flow charts it will be hard for you to say something like that unless you are just talking basics.

If you had prices it might help too. Again I'm not trying to offend you, I'm just telling you what I think to you.

This seems like a good deal for people buying used heads and questioning their quality, kinda like what happened with GH a couple of months ago.

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If I can find a cheap enough head to throw your way I'll have you build me a pretty plain Jane back up head.

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Clean and check - $20

Pressure test - $15

Valve job - $80

Resurface - $20

Guide and seat work will vary on number needing to be replaced.

The flashing and various porting work will be hourly. My rate for now will be $10.00/hr.

I hope this gives you all a little better of an idea of how cost effective this is. Until I am out of school. lol Then only God knows.

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now thats not a bad deal really^

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I appreciate the clarification. It is though to say because of the all variables. Assuming the person wants to have the head cleaned, checked, pressure tested, have a valve job done, a resurface, the oil port mod and the flashing removed; it would be right around $180-200. It could easily be more with parts, gaskets and the like. That should give you an alright idea though.

The exact reason I came to 'Style with this was to get a name started for myself. A good one at that! As far as flow charts go, I still have to build the fixture to fit a 4g to our flow bench.


Sounds good!

I'm glad I don't seem to unrealistic.

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Those prices looks really good, those posts will really help keep "customers" informed and get them more likely to do business.

If you can do flow testing you will have 0 problems selling your services. I have an extra 1G head no-one seems to want if you need more cores, it came off my motor running just fine but my car is setup for 2G stuff.

Good luck to you.

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I'll let you know if I'm ever in need! I know I'll be making some trips down to pick up heads, parts and the like. So that shouldn't be a problem.

I'll be asking the instructor about the flow bench again tomorrow. He told my friend (Honda enthusiast) and I what we needed to make to get our heads to fit the bench. He was pretty vague though and it was awhile back.

Thanks!

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That's a good price. Cylinder head express quoted me $385 for the same list of things. I told the guy to get bent and walked out, then got it done at a very small fraction of that number at a different shop a week later. :lol:

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^PM shop info.

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Understandable. This stuff takes some time. It really isn't too hard when you get everything setup, but the setup will sometime take you an hour or so. Depending on what you're trying to accomplish.

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UPDATE

I talked to my instructor Paul a few minutes ago and he said he is willing to buy everything to make the 4g63 work with our SuperFlow SF-750! I have found everything needed (I believe), and I am about to pass the information onto him. I will keep updating this for everyone who is interested.

Thanks,
Chayce.

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I am interested and will get ahold of you when the time comes. This will help alt with price on my build. Thanks

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Alright, awesome!

Thank you sir!

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Where exactly are you located I might have a few heads I would be willing to pay you to do. Have more than a few broken dsm's sitting around.

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I am currently located in Bemidji. I go to Wadena every so often however. From there I can possibly meet people if I get a little gas money thrown in. Hell, I can make a trip to somewhere in the Cities to meet a bunch of you one of these weekends. Make the trip worth it.

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Anyone planning on being out and about today? I'm feeling a trip down to the Minneapolis area. Let me know if there are any heads you want done!

218-640-2three83

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stop by grand rapids

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You should tell Paul to get you a torque plate too

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Ha, I should have brought mine with me, I'm up in virginia.

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I might have to make a stop over there one of these days. Or meet halfway.

I think he and I (among others), had a conversation about this. He didn't think anyone would use certain ones after we left so he said he is keeping what he has and we'll have to get ones for ourselves if we want them. So I'll have one when the times comes for bottom ends.

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^ they are cheap really wanna say $250…deff come this way.

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Very true. It'll depend who I go with. MAP is supposed to be making some here shortly so I'm trying to hold out to get one from them. What do you all have for me out there?

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Just one or two heads. I have a stock 6 bolt head that could get the full port job and the works and maybe another 6 bolt that needs to be decked for sure. I'll have to mic his head to see what's already been taken from it if anything

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Pictures and shat.

This is how I start with the heads. I don't really touch anything until it is this clean.

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps6060d7f6.jpg

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I didn't take many pictures of this because I was focused on getting the job done rather than attempting to be a photographer. lol Cleaning up flashing; this first example was of the worst I hadn't already touched.

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps52ac26e1.jpg

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Different location; note the not yet finished oil return.

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Oil port mod.

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...psa054c2f7.jpg



The customer wanted the intake side gasket matched, polished and the intake divider knife edged. The polish in this photo was before roughing it back up.

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...psd55cc31f.jpg



Flashing cleaned up in the exhaust runners. This was before a mild polish.

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...psa00753dc.jpg



This first picture is a different valve job I preformed on a head of my own. The second is of the above pictured customers head.

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...psd5c043d3.jpg



*Note seating mark/line; exhaust side.*

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...psc6cd4e45.jpg


Thanks for looking!
Chayce

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Wow that is some nice work. I have noticed the nasty casting on the oil return on all my heads.

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Thank you! I believe all of the heads I have retain some sort of flashing in the return(s). Not one will leave my possession like that however.

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yup blocks have casting too. clean it or be sorry… we need to get together we are 1 1/2 away or less.

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Yes sir! I cannot wait for our blocks semester! That is when some fun will begin. This is not to say that "heads class" isn't exciting; when the bottom ends get put together however, is when the fun really starts!

We might just have to make that happen. I believe you have my number from when I was contacting you off of 'Tuners about transmissions. We'll figure something out.

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Thought I'd update this some.

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I do not have any pictures of the bottom after the resurface but I could easily take a few if anyone is curious.

Thanks!

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Turned out great man! To anyone considering getting a head done, have this guy do it. Great guy kept me informed on things throughout the job. Thanks again Chayce!

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Do you do 4G64 heads as well?

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Not a problem Jeremy! Anything else I can help with hit me up! Thanks for the kind words too man; I appreciate it!

I will do damn near any head. I may even have to dabble in V8 cast iron stuff. :violin:



For anyone looking at the turnaround time of Jeremy's head; I had well into 12 hours of porting, polishing and cleaning the flashing up. Plus running into a few kinks with valves needing to be replaced, waiting on parts as well as taps.


Next up; a set of 6g72 heads!