i've noticed something, for every turbo 2g guy around here, it's always the same crap. Big alien looking (altezza) red button taillights. big ol' chrome rims that makes the car look like it's riding on tin foil. Oh, gotta love the billboard looking sticker car that makes you wonder if there is any paint left to be covered on the car. hmm.. oh yeah, a blow off valve so damn loud it makes normal drivers on the road jump in their seat in fear. hmm, what else, oh yeah, big ass subwoofers that rattles off their body panels and and drowns out other drivers' music, who are listening to their classical music or national public radio. oh yeah, and an ultra fly body kit that looks like it's hung on by elmer's glue and makes the cosmetic designer's at mitsubishi ooze in their pants. urgg... yeah yeah, people say ' it makes me happy' and i'm thinking yeah, 'if that makes you happy, so should a 25 cent 80 year old hooker. urggg.. why can't there be something nice looking, something simple, something elegant, look at the honda guys.. some of those cars are beautiful, a nice sized nonflashy wheel, a cf front lip, and and that's it! normal drivers wouldnt even think that car is something modified whereas the car enthusist would just look in appreciation. wow, how come there are no guys like that for the 2g!? someone please tell me where i can find that guy 'cause he deserves a nice cold beer. :beer:

sounds like my car, plain and simple.

i take that as an insult!!!


post a pic of yours.. i will finish suspension on mine today and i'll post pics of mine after that.. now note its been sitting in the garage since september last year.. except for 2 days at the track... two months ago..

-E

I saw a red & yellow 2g with altezza's on the way home last night....didn't look too good. To each his own....

my car is in my sig.

I think the 2g's with the 97-up front bumper and wing look the best. Non-chrome 18s help too. I also think its kinda cool when people take off the badging for some reason.

How do you post pics?

oh, btw, and i had no clue u had a body kit or a bov. all i figured u had was an automatic

I do have to kinda agree with joe here.

I have seen a few good looking 2g's, but it does seem like most of them are really poorly done.

Bodykits aren't necessaryily bad, but ill fitting, un-painted ones are, everyone here knows that, so don't try and argue.

I dont think my car is that god awful, even though it has 18" chrome wheels. Its clean, pics are worth a 1000 words right.

Hense the reason I am not a big fan of 2G's. There is a large tendency to go ultra ricey with them. There are however quite a few that are well done. Enes has one of the nicest ones you could hope to find as do a few others on this board. There are a few 1G guys that rice them out as well and I would prefer they all drove something else but what can you do other than make yours clean and hope they realize which actually looks better.

Stirring the pot can be fun, I do it quite often. But don't be surprised when someone takes it way too seriously and starts getting offensive back like tom, that is part of the risks of it.

Tom, chill out. You know I and half the other people here liked your car better stock than now, don't take offense to it, they are just opinions we are entitled to. If you prefer it the way it is, thats fine, but don't be surprised when someone expresses their opinion about it.

alright, here's my reason for posting this, i see only a handful of really nice and clean 2g's and other ones with 10 feet metal shop spoilers, it just makes me upset that people would go and do something like that. anyway, the only reason why i said "dont compare ur life to mine" is well i guess im a little arrogant because my family is so well off (multi-millionaires). i know it's not my money but i guess it does make someone pompous and arrogant. anyway, i guess it's like this tom, me and u both have 2g's, we both have opposite tastes as to what we like for looks, let's go line our 2g's up and see who comes out a winner. i mean hell, we both have people that like the stock look or the modified tom look, i guess the only way to decide this is to line up our cars, and i do believe u have more mods than I. anyway, it'll be fun, and take some tension off this worthless topic


cliff notes: everybody likes different style 2G DSMs, tom and i should go run them in the 1/4 mile to see which is better considering we both are awesome looking 2g's that have our own fans as far as looks go

just out of curiosity, what does your car run joe?
as long as the owner has put effort into it, I can appreciate where they are coming from, lately most stock loking dsms are just stock, if they have exterior mods, they usually have something done to them, to bad 70% of the 2g owners start on the outside, while 70% of the 1g owners start inside.
To each its own, I personally like the styling on my 'tonka truck'

i run 15.9 at 82 :goodluck:

lol, then you and tom would be a good race.

:stick:

OK, to keep this on topic, I have a basically stock looking 2G Talon, even has stock rims (super clean mind you). Guess what? Money goes to performance mods first, and I've already started in with the exhaust, intake, and soon fuel system. The only mod that would be changing my appearance (for now) is the suspension, which is a key ingredient to a nice car.

Now, for my initial question, WHY THE HELL DO PEOPLE INCLUDE THEIR PHOTO SIGNATURES IN EVERY REPLY TO A POST? There are rules on other forums I am on that exclude the use of your signature more than once in a thread. It is kinda useless and uses bandwith folks. :naughty:

Ok, I have stated my peace. :D

Tom, as you know we are cool.....I've got nothing against you at all, but you have to realize your bodykit looks pretty bad. The paint doesn't match, you wrecked some of the factory paint, and the fiberglass or bondo that you used to mold it on is wavy. I do like the fact you have upgraded your turbo, and I think the HK$ is the best aftermarket BOV available so don't think I am just hating on you here. You should also get some decent shocks for those R1 Racing coilovers. As far as my opinion goes, I say that Enes has the best looking 2G in the area, and one of the better looking ones nationwide. I think that Joe's car is very clean and nice looking and I deffinately like what he did with the wheels, but I do not like the "shaved" center piece. So are you guys gonna put some cash down for this race or what?

Personally, I just think it needs to be in moderation or in good taste.

a DSM with a decent body kit is okay as long as it looks good...

a Grand Am with a body kit is not okay. Period.

Might as well add one more thing here, if you put stickers on the car make sure you at least have their products to back it up. I am not a big fan of covering cars with stickers, but that is just me and everybody has their thing.

So when is this race going to happen?

Ok, now i gotta add my two cents. As far as the stickers and tails go, when I first had my car I wanted it to stand out. Why? What the fuck is cool about looking like every other red 2g you see. So I threw on the vinyl, and the tails. After having them for a while, I despise them. I want the tails gone, I want stock or ventshaded red. The stickers are bye bye as of next week or so. And hopefully the car will be black with 18" CHROME WHEELS. Fuck you Joe. LoL. To each his own. And personally, I think you should do what you feel and like. Personally, I think both the ultra ricer and the sleeper look is fuckin gay. Style out your car to what you want, just do it with class I think.

Exactly. Like I said, as long as it's done in moderation.

i have a slow t25 tom, you can come see for yourself, i know you are packing that t28. i'll be home june 10th from college to race whenever. money only of course

Big 28 actually ;) I want to watch when this goes down.

Chill out everyone. I completely agree with what the first post was about. Lately all the 2g's I see are completely rice (and not in a good way). I don't care if you want a body kit, but at least have it match the car. The one I saw was a red 2g with a yellow (bright yellow) body kit. Now how fucking ugly is that? The owner probably appreciates it though....

Anywhoo, don't be making personal attacks on each other or you will see yourself banned for a while!

i thought you had a lot of shit done to your car, joe? well i suppose i can back up my looks now that i have some shit done, but i might have to rewire the fuel pump for this race (gonna have to undo the rewire before i leave for california, damn emissions) but yeah im down for one last race before i go.

and chris, i have the matching paint just dont have the time right now to finish it.

http://www.enesg.com/gallery/albums/...2895.sized.jpg

one pic...

http://www.enesg.com/gallery/albums/...2896.sized.jpg

pic 2

http://www.enesg.com/gallery/albums/...2897.sized.jpg thats what most of you will see on the road.. the big fat arse of the 2g...


anyways.. i didn't even bother reading any of the threads above, they all seamed uselses.. but i said i was going to post pics.. and i did..

-E

Yup, diggin your car.. matches your helmet ;)

Enes, I've always loved the clean look of your Clipse.

Tom, it's nice to see that you've finally mellowed out a bit.

JiN, what's wrong with a sleeper style? I'd much rather have a near stock looking vehicle that one that has exterior stuff done up the butt. Blegh. Again, these are all personal opinions, but I'm curious as to what's wrong with the from-the-factory look.

joegengsta: sup
tpunx0: hey
joegengsta: haha, whats going on
tpunx0: lol nutting much just getting ready to go out to eat
tpunx0: when do you wanna do this
joegengsta: race?
tpunx0: yes
joegengsta: june 11th
tpunx0: k
joegengsta: ill be back on june 10th but i wont have any time to get my car running
tpunx0: what all do you have done
joegengsta: i'll let you see for yourself
joegengsta: it's on stock fuel and a stock t25
tpunx0: money?
joegengsta: sure
joegengsta: how much you wanna throw down
tpunx0: $100
joegengsta: cool
joegengsta: 100 sounds good
joegengsta: t28 auto right?
joegengsta: and fuel mods
tpunx0: FP Ported Big T28 with 14pound actuater
joegengsta: alrighty
tpunx0: rewire will be done
tpunx0: nos?
joegengsta: i have no nos
tpunx0: k
joegengsta: i have a act clutch
joegengsta: homemade boost controller, filter
joegengsta: um.. free mods
tpunx0: how much boost
joegengsta: and 19psi
tpunx0: fmic?
joegengsta: stock smic
tpunx0: FWD or AWD
joegengsta: awd
tpunx0: k
tpunx0: its ok
tpunx0: its on*
joegengsta: great
joegengsta: um... tom, im gonna let you know right now
joegengsta: i only have 80 in the bank, i'll try to get the extra 20
joegengsta: alrighty?
tpunx0: lol ok
joegengsta: caus ei havent started to work yet, and im just getting back from college
joegengsta: alrighty
tpunx0: ok
tpunx0: i gotta go
joegengsta: cool, wait
tpunx0: ttyl
joegengsta: one last thing
tpunx0: grrr
tpunx0: k
joegengsta: i dont want anything bad to happen if either of us loses
joegengsta: no bitterness from either side
joegengsta: agreed?
tpunx0: yeah totally
joegengsta: k, good. later

:3gears: :banana:

WHO? Tom (FP big 28) vs Joe (stock t25)
CARS? 2g gsx vs 2g gsx
MONEY? !!!$100!!!!
WHEN? June 11th, friday night
WHERE? Apple Valley or Midway Determined (not sure yet)
DETAILS? 1race, 1 flagger, 1 person holds the money, 1/4 mile that's determined and agreed upon by Tom and I
FINAL NOTE: no bashing, loser pays up, what's done is done.

I'm so glad you posted that on a public forum :naughty:

Tom, just remember... "D" is for drive, which means you go forward. 'R" is not for racing.... ;)

i dont see a private forum for it? wasn't there one before? i can't find it.

anyway, im gonna put mine in D also. hehe


... so, who's coming to watch the t28/t25 battle? haha

Yet another stupid f*cking street race, save it for the track or don't do it at all!!

....my $0.02

can i hold the money, my car isnt fast enough to get away :jammin:

Sounds like Fast and the Furious..... Go to the track, I'm about 90% sure there is a import day at the Rock this comming weekend.

this isn't a discussion of legal matters, yes yes, the track is more safe. this is gonna be done another way though