My New 98 gsx build
 

Alright I need some suggestions on what kind of turbo to use on my new setup..
MAP stage2 shortblock
Built 2g head
Debating between a magnus/jm fab intake mani
Fuel setup for e85, thinking for injectors, fic 2150s
I currently have a new fp race manifold, My question is should I get the precision 5857 ball bearing n use the manifold, Or get a tubular and get a different turbo? Maybe a 6266?

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What are you goals?
how fast do you want to go?
budget?

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Tight Budget why I'm debating on a tubular(which one if I do)
Either way I need a new turbo
My power goals are kinda open right now, I guess anything past 500 i'm happy with.

But yea know if keeping that mani makes it very limited then I'll have to make it work by getting a tubular I suppose.

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meh, all the new tech makes it easier to make power.
The FP is the best mitsu flanged turbo manifold out, a 5858 should get your goal but the 6266 will do it really easy.

But if you are on a tight budget, you don't need 1/2 the stuff you listed. You could spray it.....

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What could the 5858 ball bearing with that mani get me for power?

What do you recommend for a tubular? I was looking at the map one.. Sooo nice haha but also like 1300$..

magnus or jm fab for intake?

I kinda look at it as... If i'm gonna have a built engine don't really wanna cut any corners, Want it to be legit. I know I really should get a tubular it would be worth it in the long run.. I just thought if that fp mani would work i'd use it, But thinking about it.. if I ever did switch to a tubular I'd have to get another turbo, sounds more expensive in the long run.

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I'm confused you seem determined for a tubular manifold, why?

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I'd go with JMF for the intake manifold unless you're going with the cast Magnus . The regular Magnus SMIMs are garbage they crack all the time I've personally had 2 of em crack on the runner.

As far as a manifold I'd stay with the fp if your funds are low since there's plenty of mitsu flanged turbos that'll get you to your goal HP.

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Yeah.. I think I'm just gonna keep the manifold and get a 5858 or a 5857.

Or with that setup which turbo you think would be best? I'm open for suggestions

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with that much power, i'd be worried about the transmission...unless you have a built or rebuilt one already.

i'd vote the 5858 but the 6266 is the route i would go if i went that way.

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Yeah I'm thinking the jm fab drag intake and the 5858 ball bearing.

That's my next step on this build.. I still have a stock tranny, besides a act street disk clutch installed.
Since the engine/tranny are out of the car I should probably do something about that. Any suggestions? haha

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twin disk and let her buck.

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I had a OBX Racing tubular manifold on my gst made good powa and actually did it job making good torque. People had their doubts about it but she held. My take on tubular manifolds are you get what you pay for, so beware.

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500hp dynojet? Could do that fairly cheap if you just be smart about your parts and keep it simple.

Keep the FP exhaust mani, old school bolt-on SCM61 internally gated, fmic, twin 255hp's, 1600 injectors, DSMLink, stock 6 bolt motor/head, cheapest used set of used cams. 25psi and you're probably at 500+ on a dynojet.

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^ So agreed, by far the best reliable cheapest way to make good powa

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These are the mods that I have done already..

ETS FMIC
E16G
FP Race Manifold
Turbosmart dual port bov
FIC 950s
ss o2housing
E85 tuned(29psi)
ACT street disk clutch

I sold my exhaust, head, o2housing already, Selling the 16g also

Either way I'm putting a built 6bolt in with a built 2G head.
Probably a DW300 fuel pump.
I'm not aiming for a certain number, Whatever those new mods will give me what I'm looking for.

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Can't go wrong with a Billet wheel HX35 with Mitsu hot side for a budget turbo.

Teaser video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_LkbIKBTu0

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So you're not aiming for a certain number? And you want us to tell you which turbo/manifold setup to go with? A JMF Drag intake manifold on a 58mm turbo?

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Why do you need a drag mani on a 500hp car. It will probably do more bad than good.

The DW300 is not much more than the 255 so I'd go with the new walbro 450 pump. Should easily get you there.

If you have an account on tuners look up people's setups in the 400-500 range and make a parts list.

There's a million parts to get ya there, just depends on how much boost you wanna run/ and how much $$$ you wanna spend.

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:facepalm:

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How much power have you made on the 16g?

You should be able to make 400 Dynojet on that, so you are looking for 100 extra HP right?

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Fuck a map short block. Put in a stock 2.0, cams, keep 16g, get a cheap smim and spray a 100 shot at. Done and done

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^This.
That was my plan for my old car, hence why I have a direct port nitrous kit that happens to be for sale.

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This is why i'm asking questions n such...

I'm not aiming for a certain number, I'd just be happy with anything past 500+ all i'm saying

If I'm gonna put an engine back in, It's gonna be built just so I don't have to worry about it later on.

The Jm Fab drag mani was just a suggestion, I don't know which mani to use yet, why I asked eariler :) Basically I was trying to figure out which turbo would be best for the fb manifold if I did wanna go that route(which the 5858 ball bearing seems to be my best bet)

I'm gonna do a new fuel system, probably fic 2150s so I'm set with injectors and don't have to worry that later on. Probably get the GSC S2 camshafts also.

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What I'd do for 500hp

Stock 6 bolt or 98-99 7 bolt arp hardware on connecting rods
Gasket matched head with Evo beehives with GSC1 cams
L19s with permatorque
Billet 5858 cea
SS o2 housing w/gate provision
FP race mani
1100 FIC hi-z
255 rewired w/ BAP
Evo3 intake
N/T throttle body

I didn't add link, vrsf fmic, ect. Assuming you have that stuff

I think that would get to to 500 at DB.

As far as the manifold, go with the JMF street or Race if you plan on a 6266.

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A built motor would be nice for high compression ratio or for a stroker.

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Definitely be a 2.0 built engine,

More research im doing.. I'm leaning more towards the 6266BB t3 not sure between .63 or .82

And which tubular mani to choose from. The MAP mani kit is real nice.

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I watched a 5858 do 450 at 25psi with 2.5" exhaust, stock tb, im, small cams, small intake pipe.

6266 is a beast though, I vote you do it asap!

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Shearer non-divided T4 manifold, S300sx 91-80 .88 divided T4, QSV, AMS SMIM, AEM Infinity, stock trans.

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^DSM sick build right der

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Shearer divided T6 front facing manifold, S500 88 .85 divided T6, Supra SMIC, nitrous, FTW Purple, RVR intake manifold, AEM Infinity, stock trans, stock 1G BOV.

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That had to have been the slowest 500 hp car I've ever seen.

What are your actual goals with the car? Not having a defined goal often times leads to an over-turbo'd, over-manifolded lag-fest that a good 16g setup would eat for lunch, and be a lot more fun to drive.

It sounds like you're building a street car, but is there a specific 1/4 time or trap speed you are shooting for?

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New craze = the coolest bestest thing evar!

holset ftw especially at new turbo prices!

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The car will be street/Drag

I've already done the 16g setup.. I wanna upgrade, I have to put a new engine in, my 7bolt blew up. So I'm gonna put a built 6 bolt in with Wiseco HD pistons 10.5:1 Then a new 2g built head probably use GSC S2 cams, JM Fab intake most likely or a magnus we'll see. I have a new fp mani but probably gonna sell it and pick up a tubular and get the 6266 dbb turbo for it, So I'll be good for around 700hp. I'm assuming with that setup and a new fuel system to support e85 I'll be hitting around 600-700 hp mark. Which by far exceeds what I'll be happy with. I'd be happy with anything past 500+.

With an upgraded intake and that turbo.. I don't see much lag there.

But I'm new to all this.. Never had a car past 500+ hp

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Not much lag with a 62mm turbo on a 2.0? roflcopters.

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Well obviously they'll be some lag.. but not terrible..

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I lol'ed

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I know we live in a world today where on the internet, anything smaller than a 61mm is "small". Forget that bullshit, a 62mm is a fairly large turbo to 99% of us. That turbo is going to shift your power band quite a bit to the right. Add in a SMIM, not sure what you're reading but that will also likely move your power band even more right. Add in larger cams, more right. Add in some tubular manifold instead of the short runner cast one (that EVERYONE is telling you to keep but for some reason you have a hard-on for tubular), and that may move it a tad more right.

By the time you're all said n done, I would predict your setup to hit 30psi around 5k+ RPM. I say that because that's about where my similar setup on my Talon hit 30psi (built 2.0, T3 tubular mani, S362, JMF intake, 272 cams). It's a world of a difference from a 16g as far as lag goes. Which may very well have a negative affect on how "enjoyable" the car is to drive. And this is EXACTLY why all of us are saying to stick with the FP manifold, and go with as small of a turbo that reaches your power goals.

Kerry on here had an FP manifold, and a bolt on SCM61, he out-spooled me and kept up up-top.

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No 62mm+ = we no care.

5858 will do what you want it too. or FP HTA76 has trapped 138.

I vote 16g/50 trim and spray 100 shot.

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Well said!

I am a little rusty on my 10+ year old turbo knowledge, but isn't a bolt-on SCM61 known as the original 'Red' ?

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I dont think so. If my memory serves i think the original red was a 60-1 compressor and a td06 turbine in a 7 or 8cm housing.