Kyle's AWD Spyder Project - Big Money
 

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That talon looks really clean too! Should be a fun project!

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Nice. Did you do the awd conversion? Anyway if still and ever want to get rid of the stock rims ill take them off your hands.

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Looks good man! Shame to rip that red one apart but I'm sure it has its own issues :)

Pretty sure that's the point of this thread :P

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Thanks guys, it’s been a fun project so far. Yep, you are correct scheides the talon had plenty of issues and this thread will be used to track the awd conversion and the addition of many go-fast parts. I will be making a for sale thread and yes I would be willing to sell the chrome Spyder rims and tires feel free to send me a pm.
Here is my progress so far:


This first pic is where the Talon/Eclipse will be staying for the next few weeks:


http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...2/IMAG1091.jpg


Here I popped the awd rear subframe out of the talon:


http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...2/IMAG1094.jpg


Next was the rear subfame and gas tank on the Eclipse:


http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...2/IMAG1111.jpg


Here are the two gas tanks side by side:


http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...2/IMAG1112.jpg


After all these parts were out and moved aside it was time to drill out what felt like a hundred spot welds and prepare to weld the awd driveshaft brackets into the spyder:


http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...2/IMAG1117.jpg


Then I stripped the spyder frame down to the metal so I could do some welding:


http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...2/IMAG1118.jpg

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Make sure when you are welding those pieces back in you have the driveshaft in place. When I did mine the rear one was not on the correct spot.

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Lol, I meant to say if you are doing the AWD conversion yourself. It appears that you are :) pm sent.

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will be a fun project. I had fun making mine awd back in 2000

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Wow you did yours in 2000?

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Like a Boss !

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Unfortunately I already welded the rear mount before I read your comment blageo23, I checked about 10 times to make sure it was all lined up. Fingers crossed.

Well, since the awd swap is going so nicely I decided to buy my car a little "treat". It is a built 2.3 6 bolt with wiseco forged pistons, crower rods, acl race bearings, and arp hardware.

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...2/IMAG1130.jpg

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I got the 7 bolt out, now I just need to gather a few more pieces and drop my built 6 bolt in.

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...2/IMAG1172.jpg

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AWD gas tank mounted:

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...2/IMAG1149.jpg

Fuel nozzle swapped:

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...2/IMAG1147.jpg

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Wow, looks good.

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I picked up a few parts to get me through the built 6 bolt swap...

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...2/IMAG1189.jpg

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I think it's about time for an update.... This project has been sucking up all my time but has been progressing quickly.

Oil port mod since I will be mounting the 2g head on my built 6 bolt block.

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps9e6724e9.jpg

Assembled 2.3 stroker shortblock with ARP's:

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...psb7a02ac1.jpg

Assembled longblock (no the timing belt wasn't tensioned yet...):

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps251d710b.jpg

Aaaand it's finally time to toss it back in (AWD trans mounted):

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps72efec61.jpg

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I also parted out the talon... I couldn't believe the amount of interest in dsm parts in the Minneapolis area. Literally everything of value sold.

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...psca5feb56.jpg

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps4b7521b0.jpg

I scrapped the remainder of the car, it was definitely nice to get my garage space back!

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I also took some time to to replace the lower ball joints, as you can see they were in great shape :/ ... I'm surprised I even made it home with all 4 wheels attached after looking at one of them.

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...pse2a05811.jpg

I also took the time to rebuild all of the axles, made a mess of the beer pong table.

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...pse95e6f2e.jpg

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Nice progress!

Maybe I missed it but what turbo did you end up getting and have any power goals in mind? Should be a sweet build once you're done with it!

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Dropped the new engine in:
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...psf1ddf11f.jpg

Mounted the AWD driveshaft:
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps96fbf47c.jpg

After wiring up the 6 bolt CAS and connecting the various sensors, belts, exhaust, etc. it was FINALLY time to fire up the beast!!!! It started right up and idled smoothly on the first twist of the key. So I started the break in process with a spirited drive to the gas station:
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...psafb8f82b.jpg

I have since put about 50 miles on the car and have not come across a single issue. I did a compression test and came up with ~175-178psi in each cylinder so I think it's time to toss more money at it (so I can go pick on some corvettes).

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Nice work.
What is your setup?

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I'm probably one of the only people ever to do this, but I resisted temptation and broke in my 2.3 stroker with the t25 using the MotoMan procedure!
http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

Depressing, I know... I do have a 20g from an old project which I planned on bolting on but plans have since changed and I am considering purchasing an fp green xl. I am looking to make a fun ~500hp weekend car. I am very open to suggestions if anybody has any!

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That sounds badass, the only suggestion I would say to do is pick the smallest turbo for your goal, it will help keep the powerband broad, be responsive and most likely the most fun.

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This looks like a fun project! Black AWD swapped Spyders are tits.

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Thanks for the suggestion, that's one of the main reasons I chose this turbo. It'll put me right at the 500 level (on a good day). However, a nice Holset setup is looking more and more appealing every day...

My thoughts exactly!

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Really think a 20G will get you to that 500 level?

You should have just bought Blageo23's black AWD spyder!! :P

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Should get him there on a dynojet

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Sorry I should have been more specific, I meant my plans have changed and I now want this to be a higher hp car than when I started. I was never expecting anywhere near 500 from the 20g, although like goodhart said it might be possible on a dynoguess. It would almost be a shame not to push 500hp out of the car now that it has the 2.3.

Haha, or maybe Kerry's old black AWD spyder, but where is the fun in that!

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Haa the fun is in driving it and not building it. Jk, are you wanting to keep it a bolt on mitsu flange or t3 maybe?

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I can't remember exactly, but maybe 6-7 years ago at LSE I made low 300's on my 50 trim bolt-on setup. Maybe 330 or so, something like 23psi. Horseshit tune on e85 with those regrind DKS 272's. So what's that maybe 375 dynojet? I'd imagine 500 on a 20g would be a bit of a challenge.

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I agree. a 5858 variant would be perfect on that car and capable of 600whp even, you would have to talk to MAP or whoever to see about something that tops out at 550whp.

They do sell a 3431E turbo thats rated to 550 even then I'm sure it would do more.

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You also have to remember that was 6-7 years ago. 16g's on e85 are making 420-430's now a days at MAP. I think Tachyon was making like 450/490 in October at MAP at I think on only 18 or 20 psi on his setup? I would think a car with a 7 or 8cm housing made to not make peak tq at 900 rpm like Paul's could probably get pretty close at MAP. Especially if it was billet.

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20g and billet used together does not compute for me.

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^then you need to do some reading turbo lab makes great billet 20g's you can even get extended tip billet 20g wheel
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater
this guys running a turbo lab 50trim(same as a fp green) these are great numbers for low boost, hes also fwd i know that makes a diffrence but no that much.

*Edit* let the flaming and hating begin i can vouch for the turbos i have been running once for almost a year with no issues..

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Actually it was ~25 psi, but it really only made more TQ after about 20 as small turbo is small.

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My 20G back in the day topped out at 395 FWHP on Elite's Dynojet at 24 psi and race gas. With today's better ECU control and E85, I would think you could probably get ~430 whp out of a regular old 20G.

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I'm still breaking the motor in, I have almost 100 miles on it now (haven't had much time due to furnace issues I've been dealing with + a week in Vegas) but no major issues have popped up yet. I did have some lifter tick so I installed some 3g lifters:
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps1d57b90a.jpg

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...psa8cbff69.jpg

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Well the lifters didn't fix the tick/faint knock I was experiencing so I decided to pull my rod bearings and check them out in case a bigger problem was developing. They looked fine, so I'm still investigating.

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The headlights were in kinda rough shape:
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps71f13d2d.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps202a8742.jpg
They probably could have been wet sanded and buffed but I decided it would be easier to just replace them:
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...psd0478363.jpg

Since my front bumper was off I installed my vrsf intercooler/piping/greddy bov/dejon 3" intake pipe:

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps1c17f914.jpg

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At this point it was time to cut the bumper (one of my least favorite jobs on these cars):
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps73bb1fd6.jpg

Things seem to be coming along great.
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps369c1e34.jpg

I am using my old tactrix 2.0 cable to tune the car (ecuflash/ceddymods/evoscan):
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...psb330beb1.jpg