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Murlo26 09-18-2012 11:45 AM

Need New DD...~15k
 
So, I am like 99% keeping the evo, its still for sale for the right price but i like having my "fun" car paid off totally, so not looking to go into debt on a car that can break at any time.

Anyway, prolly going to take out a small loan on a half way decent car. Sick of driving around my $1000 shitbox honda. It has gotten the job done but too much is wrong with it and I don't want to spend any money on it.

My brother just bought a used mazda 3 with the 2.3L and its actually a really nice car, spent maybe 14-15k. I am debating just copying him and doing that as well.

What are my other options out there for solid reliable cars? I am debating a civic as well. I thought about leasing the new camry but I put too many miles on my car (60+ miles a day) to lease.

I'd love a turbo AWD car but not sure if its really reliable, like maybe an auto wrx or legacy...i have looked at evo 8's but at 15k they are kinda beat up.

Thoughts? Good gas mileage is a plus but not necessary. I'd trade gas mileage for fun obviously :)

Kracka 09-18-2012 11:47 AM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
Subaru Impreza base...nothing fancy, but AWD and decent MPG. Otherwise, if MPG is a bigger concern go Korean (Hyundai/Kia) and get a warranty for the next decade.

Super Bleeder!! 09-18-2012 11:50 AM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
I too am looking at 15k dailys and i think i'm pretty set on an 05/06 acura RL. They are waaaay nice inside and have awd.

rose0529 09-18-2012 11:51 AM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
Shamless plug for Whitebear Mitsu in 3..

I recently test drove a TDI for fun, and was very impressed, 40+mpg, 240tq, and deisel longevity. I will definitly be looking into them when I purchase another car. not sure what is in the 15k range they seem to hold their value really well but alot have higher miles as they are bought to drive, here is a quick one I pulled of CL
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hn...241217549.html

Murlo26 09-18-2012 11:54 AM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
^I prefer something with under 50k miles though.

On something reliable, aka honda type where 100k+ isn't a big deal, I'd be "ok" with 80k but I'd really prefer something in the 0-50k range.

Murlo26 09-18-2012 11:55 AM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rose0529 (Post 414350)
Shamless plug for Whitebear Mitsu in 3..

I'm ok with that if he has anything worth while there for 15k lol.

I would love a small suv, but suv's are kinda pricey. Like the new mitsu suv's are solid looking but too pricey i think.

Halon 09-18-2012 11:58 AM

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^^ Ha

For 15k you have a ton of options, hard to narrow it down without knowing what is most important to you.

Me personally, I'd focus on gas mileage as gas prices don't seem to be going down. I really like the new compact stuff like the Fiesta and Mazda 2. Golf or Jetta TDI. That's just me though.

A//// Guy 09-18-2012 11:58 AM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
You can find lots of nice econo cars/suvs for 15k, newer Elantra, Civic, Accord, CRV.

Or something with a bit more miles and nicer. TL, G35, etc

rose0529 09-18-2012 12:01 PM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
I'd just go to a bunch of dealers on a sat and test drive .. everything! I like test driving, and it would be a good way to see what you like, with size, mpg, fuel type, make, and so on. Pick out some econo's, luxury, tdi, suv, w/e .. might find a dealer with some of each.

Murlo26 09-18-2012 12:02 PM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
Luxury, not really important to me. I'd take less miles over leather etc. Smaller car is fine too as I don't have kids or anything to haul.

I am looking at base impreza's and there are quite a few for 15k. Liking that idea now.

Murlo26 09-18-2012 12:03 PM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rose0529 (Post 414350)
Shamless plug for Whitebear Mitsu in 3..

I recently test drove a TDI for fun, and was very impressed, 40+mpg, 240tq, and deisel longevity. I will definitly be looking into them when I purchase another car. not sure what is in the 15k range they seem to hold their value really well but alot have higher miles as they are bought to drive, here is a quick one I pulled of CL
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hn...241217549.html

Damn, now that is pretty sweet.

I will have to go test drive some of those.

asshanson 09-18-2012 12:05 PM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
Maybe find a 2012 base Elantra manual transmission if they have any left for probably around $16k. Something like that will be my next DD, hard to beat the price and warranty. Not exactly a fun car but awesome MPG and reliability/warranty.

goodhart 09-18-2012 12:11 PM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
50k on a gas car = 100k on a diesel car. My bro just passed 300k in his 2002 jetta tdi

Kracka 09-18-2012 12:13 PM

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You could always get a hybrid :lol:

Andrew has 204k on his '05 Prius that we drove up for the Spring Cruise; he bought it with 90k for about $7k I think and it's needed nothing but tires and oil.

Murlo26 09-18-2012 12:17 PM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
God so many options...I think I need to go drive some.

Just looked, the brand new 2013 elantra base are like 16500 new, hell a few more bucks and I can get a brand new car...that is tempting, I like new shit :)

The TDI is also a nice looking option.

So right now...

1.Impreza base (~30k miles) for 15k
2.new elantra for 16.5k
3.TDI for 15k with 75k miles

No particular order, but those are 3 I didn't think of ever.

Super Bleeder!! 09-18-2012 12:18 PM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 414359)
50k on a gas car = 100k on a diesel car. My bro just passed 300k in his 2002 jetta tdi

Shouldnt that be the other way around?

Kracka 09-18-2012 12:20 PM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
Kia Forte starts at $15k new.

I've ridden around a lot lately in the Koup version which is a bit more, but it's a very nice car and has plenty of features and options standard/available.

Murlo26 09-18-2012 12:33 PM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 414366)
Kia Forte starts at $15k new.

I've ridden around a lot lately in the Koup version which is a bit more, but it's a very nice car and has plenty of features and options standard/available.

I'll add that to the list then too!

1.Impreza base (~30k miles) for 15k
2.new elantra for 16.5k
3.TDI for 15k with 75k miles
4. mazda 3 w/ ~35k miles
5. kia forte, new

Kracka 09-18-2012 12:39 PM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
Pretty cool car for $16k new: http://www.dodge.com/en/2013/dart/

Big touch screen and fancy gauges.

Murlo26 09-18-2012 12:41 PM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
hmmmm, I really don't want to give chevy/dodge any business as they took all our tax dollars in the bailout...but maybe I should support them to help my investment haha.

Worth checking out!

timschot 09-18-2012 12:42 PM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
I've spoiled myself and don't think I'll ever own a rwd or fwd vehicle in this climate again. Granted, last winter didn't exactly require it...

We have an 03 audi a4 1.8t and love it. Alternate set of wheels with blizzaks makes that thing a lot of fun in the winter. We will have that car for a long time, wife absolutely loves it. When the motor goes, it'll probably just get a nice fresh one put back in.

Fair warning - people will tell you the a4 is an electrical nightmare, but take it with a grain of salt. I've owned this one for 60k and while I know a thing or two about cars to do most things myself, it has not been that bad. Coil packs fail every so often (only $20 each, though), and the timing belt/tensioner needs changing every 60k. Stock turbo went out around 90k, but I think it was on its way out from the previous owner already at 35k when we bought it. Think he had run it almost dry on oil. And turbo swap was a piece of cake.

I would not hesitate to buy a subaru impreza base model though. I just like awd for a dd up here...

Kracka 09-18-2012 12:42 PM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
If nothing else, I like the Dart commercials :D

niterydr 09-18-2012 12:48 PM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
Wife and I were in the same boat but with a bit more budget, got her a 09 gti with 48k on it from Westside VW. CPO so it is under 2/24k b2b warranty.

Kracka 09-18-2012 12:48 PM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
Base Mitsu Lancer for $16k, 10/100 warranty. Get a red one :p

JET 09-18-2012 12:49 PM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
I am trying to decide between a nice car or going something cheaper and saving up more for a new house. I wanted an AWD commuter that was somewhat fun and here is the cheap option:

Audi TT - this one is a bit high at $16k, but looks nice - chip adds 50hp and should be a nice DD

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ra...279587843.html

Murlo26 09-18-2012 12:50 PM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 414373)
Base Mitsu Lancer for $16k, 10/100 warranty. Get a red one :p

F THAT!

I have too many evo parts, I'd turbo it.

But seriously, I hate how the base ones look, so wannabe evo.

I want to spread my love to something non mitsu I think.

goodhart 09-18-2012 12:52 PM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Super Bleeder!! (Post 414365)
Shouldnt that be the other way around?

Yea I suppose. Either way though, diesels are just getting broken in at 100k miles!

simulatedwood 09-18-2012 01:06 PM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
Murlowski,

I will kick you in the nuts if you do anything without having me look at it and give the thumbs up first..lol

No seriously!

Speaking of.... I just pick-up up my latest old man winter mobile, Biege\gold 2007 Honda crv awd ex with 100k miles for under 13k out the door. It is possible to find some nice stuff in the market. just have to look hard.

Murlo26 09-18-2012 01:09 PM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by simulatedwood (Post 414378)
Murloski,

I will kick you in the nuts if you do anything without having me look at it and give the thumbs up first..lol

No seriously!

Speaking of.... I just pick-up up my latest old man winter mobile, Biege\gold 2007 Honda crv awd ex with 100k miles for under 13k out the door. It is possible to find some nice stuff in the market. just have to look hard.

You missed the W in my name, Murlowski :)

Come test drive Saturday with me if you are free. There seem to be some really solid brand new cars for 15-20k range that get 40mpgs almost. So I will honestly have to look hard at those, some good ass gas mileage would really help me out for how much I drive, so I should focus on that I think. I am pretty sure my 95 honda gets over 30mpgs so I don't want less, its nice filling up only once a week. The evo got filled up like 3 times as much.

Edit:

Looking at stuff more, I should have no issues with $300 a month payments, so that probably gets me closer to 20k for money...probably makes things worse for deciding. I will have to see what kind of deals I can get from dealerships I guess. I don't have a car payment now, but sadly I have minimal cash reserves so I wouldn't be able to buy a car outright until spring which is too late. So regardless I am taking out a loan and that amount a month is easy, $400 with the evo was no problem with mods so I should be good on this. Plus when I get my bonus this spring I will pay off a big chunk like with the evo, I paid off the evo in 3 years even with all the mods/motor builds. I am single still so I have money to burn haha (just letting people know so I don't get the don't spend too much speech). So I think I will look harder at newer cars that are around 20k, still nothing fancy.

Tachyon 09-18-2012 01:12 PM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
The new Dart is a Alpha Romeo Giulietta with a some Dodge sheet metal cleverly bolted on.

I'd personally spring for a TDI Golf.

BluDevl 09-18-2012 01:14 PM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
I went with a '05Volvo S40. I had to search a little, but I found the Turbo 5 cylinder, AWD, and 6-speed manual. These are close to the same think as the Ford Focus ST that is Turbo AWD and in Europe only. I generally get about 27-28 mpg, but you will need premium fuel. So far, it has been great! I purchased with 115k and now has 126k with no issues. They come with a 15g turbo, and a front mount intercooler for their factory setup. They make about 220hp and 230 tq . I would check them out if you want something mildly fun, yet economical.

http://imganuncios.mitula.net/2006_v...5394250587.jpg

Good luck and have fun shopping!

rose0529 09-18-2012 01:19 PM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tachyon (Post 414380)

I'd personally spring for a TDI Golf.

My personal favorite as well, room to haul lots o stuff and still get good mpg. With 20k you can get one. I know west side vw just got a 2011 white 4 dr golf tdi with like 20k miles on it for like 22k, could prob talk them down, but its a manual. It has at least a year of free maintance left too...

http://wsvw.lutherauto.com/preowned-...8BW345075.aspx

and add this...
http://malonetuning.com/?page_id=564
or the apr version.... :)

Trogdor 09-18-2012 01:46 PM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rose0529 (Post 414350)
Shamless plug for Whitebear Mitsu in 3..

http://images.t-nation.com/forum_ima..._on_thread.jpg

No seriously though, I've got a lot of really good options for DD in the range.

2012 Ford Focus. These two were the lowest price ones in the state (at their package level) 3 months ago when they were selling for 17,999. Now they're even lower priced! Sunroof, SYNC system, Twin Clutch Auto, up to 45MPG, and surprisingly decent pick up for a 2.0.
http://www.whitebearautos.com/used-i...9cd7cdf78cd556

2004 Golf R32. If you want to stay AWD and fun.
http://www.saintpaulautos.com/used-i...saintpaulautos

2009 Jetta TDI.
http://www.saintpaulautos.com/used/V...f129a30b2e.htm

2011 Kia Forte EX. The cheap econo box. If you want something with super low miles and don't really care that the car is just 5 wheels, an engine, heat and AC. I got one here.
http://www.whitebearautos.com/used/K...a8e19caaa0.htm

2011 Mazda 3. You could liberality copy him.
http://www.whitebearautos.com/used/M...e066e87e36.htm

2011 Mazda 6 Sport with the 2.5
http://www.whitebearautos.com/used/M...6a82befdad.htm

2008 Saturn Vue if you wanna go the small SUV route.
http://www.whitebearautos.com/used/S...cdd025d51b.htm

I've got a bunch of other really good options with low miles. I don't want to spam this post though. Stop in and see me and we can talk about all the other options.

turbotalon1g 09-18-2012 01:50 PM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
TDI golf gets my vote, my friend has one and has to travel the 5 state area with his and its reliable as shit, enough TQ to be fun and get fantastic MPGs.

Before you pick something else I'd drive one, new focus's are sweet too.

Tachyon 09-18-2012 01:50 PM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rose0529 (Post 414383)

I don't know a lot about TDI tuning, but can your actually realize a 4-6 MPG gain with a chip?

Murlo26 09-18-2012 02:05 PM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Trogdor (Post 414388)
http://images.t-nation.com/forum_ima..._on_thread.jpg

No seriously though, I've got a lot of really good options for DD in the range.

2012 Ford Focus. These two were the lowest price ones in the state (at their package level) 3 months ago when they were selling for 17,999. Now they're even lower priced! Sunroof, SYNC system, Twin Clutch Auto, up to 45MPG, and surprisingly decent pick up for a 2.0.
http://www.whitebearautos.com/used-i...9cd7cdf78cd556

2004 Golf R32. If you want to stay AWD and fun.
http://www.saintpaulautos.com/used-i...saintpaulautos

2009 Jetta TDI.
http://www.saintpaulautos.com/used/V...f129a30b2e.htm

2011 Kia Forte EX. The cheap econo box. If you want something with super low miles and don't really care that the car is just 5 wheels, an engine, heat and AC. I got one here.
http://www.whitebearautos.com/used/K...a8e19caaa0.htm

2011 Mazda 3. You could liberality copy him.
http://www.whitebearautos.com/used/M...e066e87e36.htm

2011 Mazda 6 Sport with the 2.5
http://www.whitebearautos.com/used/M...6a82befdad.htm

2008 Saturn Vue if you wanna go the small SUV route.
http://www.whitebearautos.com/used/S...cdd025d51b.htm

I've got a bunch of other really good options with low miles. I don't want to spam this post though. Stop in and see me and we can talk about all the other options.

You around Saturday? I plan to hit a few places, maybe I will start with you.

I for sure want to hit the TDI golf though that rosey posted, I looked at the interior shots and specs etc and I am liking the looks of those. I like the idea of turbo diesel a lot too.

rose0529 09-18-2012 02:16 PM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 414389)

new focus's are sweet too.

FWIW.... I drove one to florida and back .... got 37mpg (sweet), but I hated driving it. the transmission was annoying and it had kinda bad blind spots... imho. BUT eveyone is different.. thats why I say drive a bunch of stuff, I know everyone won't have the same likes/dislikes I do when driving a car.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tachyon (Post 414390)
I don't know a lot about TDI tuning, but can your actually realize a 4-6 MPG gain with a chip?

I've just started looking into it. IT sounds like you get basically the same maybe a little better mpg but more power (depending on how happy your foot is..) with stage 1, but if you take out the emissions stuff you def see a gain in mpg, but thats prob not something I'd do under warranty or free maintance period.

EclipseGST 09-18-2012 02:22 PM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
My g/f's brother has a 09 GTI and we had his car for 7 months while he was in the navy boot camp... Such a nice car, had it from Nov-May, so experienced whatever winter we had last year. haha

It wasnt all dolled up inside, nothing to fancy but it did have power everything and factory HEATED CLOTH seats! I've never seen that before but its pretty amazing when you jump in during the winter and you dont have the cold leather but still have heated seats.

Got high 30's for gas mileage running back and forth to the cities from Winona (250mi round trip) and it was very comfortable and roomy.

My other option I was looking at was a 06-07 Mazdaspeed6. AWD - turbo 2.3L 6spd manual. Very nice cars that can be had in the price range of 16-22k with lower miles. They are just a little harder to find.

Trogdor 09-18-2012 02:24 PM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 414391)
You around Saturday? I plan to hit a few places, maybe I will start with you.

I for sure want to hit the TDI golf though that rosey posted, I looked at the interior shots and specs etc and I am liking the looks of those. I like the idea of turbo diesel a lot too.

Yep, I'll be in Saturday from 9-6. If you want me to get any of the VW's let me know in advance (by Friday). I'd have to go get them from another lot.

I also have a speed 6 for 14k

tehehodi 09-18-2012 02:31 PM

Re: Need New DD...~15k
 
The R32 is a sweet little car but you might just want to stance it.. haha


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