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DSMINMN 07-30-2012 07:04 PM

Short/longblock, 2g FWD transmission.
 
I am curious what everyone has as I may be getting another project. I am looking for a 1g 7 bolt longblock, but would also consider a shortblock. I’m looking to spend around $200-250.

I am also looking for a 2g FWD trans. for around $200-250 as well.

Just let me know what you have, thanks.

chris02rex 07-31-2012 05:56 PM

Re: Short/longblock, 2g FWD transmission.
 
Still have the block you sold me

DSMINMN 07-31-2012 06:54 PM

Re: Short/longblock, 2g FWD transmission.
 
I'm thinking about dropping the whole project idea. FWD trans. are gold now apparently. Didn't you sell yours for $250?

chris02rex 08-01-2012 09:12 AM

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175

DSMINMN 08-01-2012 09:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chris02rex (Post 410824)
175

And it had how many miles on it?

chris02rex 08-01-2012 04:13 PM

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120k

DSMINMN 08-01-2012 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by chris02rex (Post 410864)
120k

Holy balls. I kinda' hate you right now.

DSMINMN 08-02-2012 08:56 PM

Re: Short/longblock, 2g FWD transmission.
 
Someone has to have a reasonably priced transmission for sale or laying around. I've talked to three people who've sold them for UNDER $200 in the last two days. Chris is one if them.

Help me out guys.

DSMINMN 08-07-2012 09:46 AM

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Bump. I am still looking for this stuff!

CornFed2.4 08-07-2012 10:05 AM

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How much are you looking to spend on a shortblock? Longblock? I know of a few people that have some forsale.

DSMINMN 08-07-2012 04:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CornFed2.4 (Post 411246)
How much are you looking to spend on a shortblock? Longblock? I know of a few people that have some forsale.

Shortblock; cheap. Probably $200-250; $250 if it were in great condition. Longblock; about the same, if anyone has one they really wana' get rid of. I'd be willing to maybe go $300 if it was in great condition as well. I'm not looking to spend that much though..if I don't have to anyway.

CornFed2.4 08-07-2012 11:54 PM

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$300 for a running longblock? That's crazy! IMO, I've never seen one go for less than $500 even with 130-140 compression. Probably why you haven't found one yet. I've sold a few with good compression and proved they were running for $800-$1200.

Everything that I know of that is out there right now is almost double what you want to spend so sorry I can't help ya in any way.

95talonracer 08-08-2012 11:17 AM

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If you want to go that cheap you might want to move onto a different car or a different hobby. I bet if you get it running for that cheap, we will see a part out thread with in months to follow because it will fail you. You get what you pay for.

RS98GSX 08-08-2012 11:24 AM

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Ill sell you my disassembled 6bolt (no head) for cheap. I know its not what you want, but its a motor.

DSMINMN 08-08-2012 06:06 PM

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I don't know how I missed these replies.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CornFed2.4 (Post 411350)
$300 for a running longblock? That's crazy! IMO, I've never seen one go for less than $500 even with 130-140 compression. Probably why you haven't found one yet. I've sold a few with good compression and proved they were running for $800-$1200.

Everything that I know of that is out there right now is almost double what you want to spend so sorry I can't help ya in any way.

Not true. I've heard stories from people picking them up for far cheaper than what I am willing to spend. A person can damn near buy a built block for $800-1200. Call it crazy if you want, but it is still stock; it isn't gold.

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Originally Posted by 95talonracer (Post 411393)
If you want to go that cheap you might want to move onto a different car or a different hobby. I bet if you get it running for that cheap, we will see a part out thread with in months to follow because it will fail you. You get what you pay for.

Thanks for your opinion however it really doesn't change too much. As stated above, I've heard of others getting parts for cheaper than I am looking to buy them for and having had zero problems.

I also recall seeing the parts I am looking for, for cheaper not all too long ago. It only figures when I need it none are to be found.

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Originally Posted by RS98GSX (Post 411397)
Ill sell you my disassembled 6bolt (no head) for cheap. I know its not what you want, but its a motor.

It would really depend on how well of condition it is in. How many miles it had on it before it was taken apart and such.

goodhart 08-08-2012 06:18 PM

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People also lie about what they spend on shit pretty often.

chris02rex 08-08-2012 09:05 PM

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Just buy my shortblock from me.

CornFed2.4 08-08-2012 10:16 PM

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A short block yes. $250-$350. But not a runny long block. Like Kerry said you get what you pay for.

Sure you can find really good deals out there, but that's when a seller gets desperate or has no idea what a good running long block is actually worth.

BTW all the long blocks I have sold were stock pulled from a running car.

Also there is no way in hell you can get a build a short block for $1000-$1200 even the forged internals are gonna run close to $900 new. Then finding a block $50-$250. Machine work $250-700. Bearings $100. Then if you don't know how to assemble add another $300. So your at least looking at $1500 and we haven't even touched gaskets or the head.

Yes used will always be cheaper but you still run the risk of it being garbage.

Best thing in my opinion is find a car with a good running motor and trans pull it and part the car if it's beat up. Then you might get a motor and trans for free.

CornFed2.4 08-08-2012 10:55 PM

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And to help you out I know of 4 on the widsm boards but all are double your price range and you'd have to travel 9 hrs one way

tehehodi 08-08-2012 11:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CornFed2.4 (Post 411476)
A short block yes. $250-$350. But not a runny long block. Like Kerry said you get what you pay for.

Sure you can find really good deals out there, but that's when a seller gets desperate or has no idea what a good running long block is actually worth.

BTW all the long blocks I have sold were stock pulled from a running car.

Also there is no way in hell you can get a build a short block for $1000-$1200 even the forged internals are gonna run close to $900 new. Then finding a block $50-$250. Machine work $250-700. Bearings $100. Then if you don't know how to assemble add another $300. So your at least looking at $1500 and we haven't even touched gaskets or the head.

Yes used will always be cheaper but you still run the risk of it being garbage.

Best thing in my opinion is find a car with a good running motor and trans pull it and part the car if it's beat up. Then you might get a motor and trans for free.



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TjXiong 08-09-2012 12:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chris02rex (Post 411473)
Just buy my shortblock from me.

:score010:

DSMINMN 08-09-2012 02:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chris02rex (Post 411473)
Just buy my shortblock from me.

If I buy that thing back, I'll have more into it than I want. Plus I'll still be needing a trans. Why did you have to sell yours?!? lol

I'll probably get it from you one of these days.

TkrPerformance 08-09-2012 07:52 AM

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There is a fwd tranny on CL right now

DSMINMN 08-09-2012 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TkrPerformance (Post 411486)
There is a fwd tranny on CL right now

Listed under where, as what? I've been looking but I'm not coming up with much.

TkrPerformance 08-09-2012 10:55 AM

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It was last night under talon. It is not there any more. It was posted for 200

95talonracer 08-09-2012 01:08 PM

Re: Short/longblock, 2g FWD transmission.
 
I could do what someone else may do off of craigslist that is selling a trans for "cheap" and give you one of the motors or trannies in my garage that "look" good and just say yep its 100% perfect and you can take it for $100. That is more then likely what is going to happen to you and that person will be long gone before you know that they sold you junk. There is a reason that you have not found the part for the price you are looking to spend yet and it is because good known parts that work for sure are not just selling for $100. Good luck.

DSMINMN 08-09-2012 02:04 PM

Re: Short/longblock, 2g FWD transmission.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 95talonracer (Post 411504)
I could do what someone else may do off of craigslist that is selling a trans for "cheap" and give you one of the motors or trannies in my garage that "look" good and just say yep its 100% perfect and you can take it for $100. That is more then likely what is going to happen to you and that person will be long gone before you know that they sold you junk. There is a reason that you have not found the part for the price you are looking to spend yet and it is because good known parts that work for sure are not just selling for $100. Good luck.

We seem to be getting off of the topic of this thread. It was not to question my WANTING to spend X amount. It was to find the parts.

I never suggested anyone should sell me a running longblock or a transmission for $100. I apologize for TRYING to find a good deal.

CornFed2.4 08-09-2012 02:12 PM

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The 95 one that's on craigslist right now is a non turbo.

DSMINMN 09-20-2012 07:20 PM

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Ignoring the prices I would like to pay; let me know what you guys have!

I am willing to settle for a 4g63 N/A. If anyone has a 1.8L and trans. (doubtful), let me know as well.

Boomdeeze 09-20-2012 09:41 PM

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I have a complete stock engine that I just pulled out of my parts car, it was running perfect before the hg went and the previous owner sold it to me. I have already been offered 450 for the short block and he is even paying to ship it to Maine. I do have the head and everything just needs a head gasket with studs. Let me know if you want it but couldn't do it for 300. I would knock some off to save me from shipping so PM me.

s1ngletracker 09-20-2012 09:52 PM

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you can get built blocks for 1k...

DSMINMN 09-20-2012 10:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boomdeeze (Post 414633)
I have a complete stock engine that I just pulled out of my parts car, it was running perfect before the hg went and the previous owner sold it to me. I have already been offered 450 for the short block and he is even paying to ship it to Maine. I do have the head and everything just needs a head gasket with studs. Let me know if you want it but couldn't do it for 300. I would knock some off to save me from shipping so PM me.

That doesn't seem bad at all. Considering I have a guy offering to sell me an N/A 4g63 for $400 and he is out of state.

How many miles did that car have again? Was the block and head surface checked? And would you happen to still have the ECU and engine wiring harness? I'd also need the fuel pump since the Colt's wouldn't be able to keep up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by s1ngletracker (Post 414635)
you can get built blocks for 1k...

Yeah I realize this. But for my DD/winter beater Colt it would be a tad over-kill.

Goat Blower 09-20-2012 10:58 PM

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Geez, I did sell my shortblock cheap. Oh well.

iceminion 09-21-2012 06:54 AM

Re: Short/longblock, 2g FWD transmission.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DSMINMN (Post 414619)
If anyone has a 1.8L and trans. (doubtful), let me know as well.

Hate to rain on your parade here, but you will be in for a huge surprise if you get a 1.8l trans and try to put it in your 2G.

The transmission from the 4g37 1.8 will work fine, you will have to custom fab front and rear motormounts from your block because there are none on the trans.

-And-

The trans from the 4g93 1.8l has all 3 mounts, but is a much smaller bellhousing, it might work for you if you found the right combo for flywheel/clutch.


TLDR; DONT BUY A 1.8 TRANS

DSMINMN 09-21-2012 07:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iceminion (Post 414648)
Hate to rain on your parade here, but you will be in for a huge surprise if you get a 1.8l trans and try to put it in your 2G.

The transmission from the 4g37 1.8 will work fine, you will have to custom fab front and rear motormounts from your block because there are none on the trans.

-And-

The trans from the 4g93 1.8l has all 3 mounts, but is a much smaller bellhousing, it might work for you if you found the right combo for flywheel/clutch.


TLDR; DONT BUY A 1.8 TRANS

This is all for my Colt. Thank you for the information otherwise.

Boomdeeze 09-21-2012 07:33 AM

Re: Short/longblock, 2g FWD transmission.
 
I do still have the ecu, engine harness, and pump hanger but I don't think the fuel level sender worked but still ran perfect. PM me your number and we can work something out.

CornFed2.4 09-21-2012 08:20 AM

Re: Short/longblock, 2g FWD transmission.
 
You need a 1g harness patch harness and ecu. From what I've read and have been told.

You might wanna research what you actually need so you don't spend money on stuff you can't use.

DSMINMN 09-21-2012 08:54 AM

Re: Short/longblock, 2g FWD transmission.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CornFed2.4 (Post 414653)
You need a 1g harness patch harness and ecu. From what I've read and have been told.

You might wanna research what you actually need so you don't spend money on stuff you can't use.

From what I have read, you need the same year ECU as engine. So if I get a 2g engine, I'll need a 2g ECU. Plus with the '95 cam sensor I'll need the engine harness to make it all work. I have a friend with a 1g engine harness too if I need it.

CornFed2.4 09-21-2012 09:05 AM

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It not that it's how you patch it in the dash harness. I guess I could be wrong but heard using 2g stuff is alot harder

TkrPerformance 09-21-2012 01:11 PM

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Use a 1g harness and ecu in the colt. 2g stuff is a pain. I have done a few swaps alway use 1g stuff.


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