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blageo23 06-19-2012 11:04 AM

What Kind Of Oil Do You Use/ Recommend
 
Ive always ran mobile one 10w30 (maybe 40 I don't remember) in my eclipse. But last year when my turbo went out the oil that was leaking out of the turbo was like water. Kind of scary. Looking to possibly switch to a new oil.

Kracka 06-19-2012 11:36 AM

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Mobil 1 10W-30 with OEM Mitsu filters in both my IX and X. Hot oil is supposed to flow very easily, this allows it into the incredibly tight tolerances of modern engines. Thicker doesn't mean better, you should always run the appropriate viscosity for the tolerances the engine was built to.

curt_gendron 06-19-2012 11:45 AM

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I still use Mobil 1 in all my cars. Been doing that and OEM filters for the last 13 years.

blageo23 06-19-2012 12:01 PM

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Alright. I always use oem filters too. It just freaked me out that it was so thin. Guess I've never really seen super hot oil spewing out the engine.

goodhart 06-19-2012 12:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 408851)
you should always run the appropriate viscosity for the tolerances the engine was built to and the amount of power you are making.

fixed. Mobil1 may not be too bad for stockish cars, no way in hell you would catch me running it in a 600awhp car like yours.

I would run something like Rotella, Brad Penn, Amsoil high zinc, or similar. or one of the oils on FP's recommended oils list.

niterydr 06-19-2012 12:44 PM

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Rotella T Synthetic and Purolator filters.

A//// Guy 06-19-2012 12:56 PM

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Castrol syntec and GTX are what I usually use for synthetic vs non synth. Bosch or oem filters usually.

Kracka 06-19-2012 01:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 408857)
fixed. Mobil1 may not be too bad for stockish cars, no way in hell you would catch me running it in a 600awhp car like yours.

The amount of power you're making doesn't change the tolerances the engine was built to, how the engine was built does though. If you don't know, follow the manufacturer's or the engine builder's recommendation, simple as that.

Halon 06-19-2012 01:33 PM

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Toy car - I run whatever synthetic oil is on sale (10w-30 usually), and whatever filter is on sale.

Envoy - I run whatever conventional oil is on sale (5w-30 usually), and whatever filter is on sale.

:D

Kracka 06-19-2012 01:45 PM

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:lol:

The funny thing is, in the real-world, your method is probably just as effective as someone who buys the most expensive hyped-up internet fanboi oil out there!

Basically, my reasoning for Mobil 1 is simple: Simplicity (factory fill, I can buy it at Walmart) and price (it's fairly cheap by the 5 quart jug).

simulatedwood 06-19-2012 01:46 PM

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Oil? pffffff

My engine is run on Tigers blood and Chuck Norris sweat.

In all seriousness, Kracka is spot on in his analysis, spec the oil based on bearing tolerances not horsepower. What brand of oil is used, is mostly personal preference, each oil brand specs out different additives they use, some additives are better over a short term life others additives last longer over the long haul but are not as effective.. pick your poison.

95talonracer 06-19-2012 01:55 PM

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I would run nothing mut the Amsoil high zinc with an amsoil filter in your car Mike. I ran it in all of my cars with nothing but great outcome. Let me know if you need any or you can probably get it from someone in your area.

Kracka 06-19-2012 02:00 PM

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Also, keep in mind who's recommending what, the pyramid marketing scheme is a very powerful tool :)

turbotalon1g 06-19-2012 02:21 PM

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lol, beaters get whatever is cheapest but usually with a decent filter.

Talon gets dino oil rotella T with a Wix filter. Rotella T dino has lasted a really long time for me with no negatives.

Halon 06-19-2012 04:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 408868)
:lol:

The funny thing is, in the real-world, your method is probably just as effective as someone who buys the most expensive hyped-up internet fanboi oil out there!

Basically, my reasoning for Mobil 1 is simple: Simplicity (factory fill, I can buy it at Walmart) and price (it's fairly cheap by the 5 quart jug).

:) I agree. There is definately science to it all, and I used to love playing into a lot of that hype and internet info. But in the end I've concluded that I really don't have a clue in the grand scheme of things, so I just make sure to stick with regular change intervals, stick with recommended weights, and leave the science to the manufacturers because they know a million times more than I ever will.

JET 06-19-2012 04:59 PM

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Look at the tests, Mobil 1 is usually near the top. One thing to think about is the longevity. Do you think amsoil or mobil has more research in to their additive packages? What oil comes stock in most of the super cars? I'll stick with Mobil 1 in my cars. If it is good enough for a Carrera GT/911 turbo, it is good enough for my car. I also agree that regular changes mean WAY more than the oil you use. I use the Napa Gold filters (made by Wix) or OEM.

Super Bleeder!! 06-19-2012 07:10 PM

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http://store.forcedperformance.net/m...otor%20Oil.pdf

Forced Performance oil article.

evotuner 06-19-2012 10:32 PM

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AMSOIL 10w-40 high zinc and oem mitsu filter

Murlo26 06-19-2012 11:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by evotuner (Post 408896)
AMSOIL 10w-40 high zinc and oem mitsu filter

Same.

CornFed2.4 06-20-2012 02:55 AM

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I thought there was a few members on here or remember the same thread a yr or so ago about mobil 1s quality going to shit. A few locals I know for sure blamed mobil one for spinning bearings.

Me personally when the car is running I use rotella w/ wix filter

CornFed2.4 06-20-2012 03:11 AM

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http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/sho...ght=Oil+brands

Can't find the original thread but this was a sticky

goodhart 06-20-2012 09:52 AM

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FWIW, I've always ran Rotella and Amsoil high zinc.

Last I heard Forced Performance won't even warranty a turbo ran on Mobil1. I've also had a few of the knowledgeable locals who deal with high hp engines all day every day tell me to stay away from Mobil1, and they have seen more cars run spin bearings on that oil than anything else. That means more to me than any random internet forum guy's opinion and is why I've never used it.

I think super bleeder already posted it, but it's worth reading.
http://store.forcedperformance.net/m...otor%20Oil.pdf

Kracka 06-20-2012 10:37 AM

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Well, if you want to play that game, Cobb has seen more Subarus spin bearings on the track running Amsoil than they have Mobil 1. When it comes down to it, none of this matters because it's not scientific data and doesn't take into account the percentage of total population running said oil, the setup & tune of the car, other factors that could play into it, etc.

Kracka 06-20-2012 10:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JET (Post 408886)
Look at the tests, Mobil 1 is usually near the top. One thing to think about is the longevity. Do you think amsoil or mobil has more research in to their additive packages? What oil comes stock in most of the super cars? I'll stick with Mobil 1 in my cars.

This; exactly my thoughts.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Halon (Post 408882)
stick with regular change intervals, stick with recommended weights, and leave the science to the manufacturers because they know a million times more than I ever will.

Exactly my plan; pick a reputable brand and admit their team of engineers and scientists know far more than I'll ever even dream of learning when it comes to this stuff.

I'm also willing to bet than when running the proper viscosity oil with proper change intervals, if a failure occurs with one reputable oil the same would happen with any other reputable oil. At best, a different oil could delay the inevitable, at worst, it would have happened sooner. Realistically, it probably would have happened at the exact same time though.

I also think this whole internet craze of "OMG more zinc!" is ridiculous. Zinc is just one of many anti-wear additives available and some oil manufacturers are choosing to go with others for various reasons (including emissions). For example, both Castrol and Mobil are using titanium dioxide more heavily in some of their newer oil formulations. Personally, I could careless which they use since they all serve the same purpose.

Murlo26 06-20-2012 10:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 408915)
Well, if you want to play that game, Cobb has seen more Subarus spin bearings on the track running Amsoil than they have Mobil 1. When it comes down to it, none of this matters because it's not scientific data and doesn't take into account the percentage of total population running said oil, the setup & tune of the car, other factors that could play into it, etc.

Honestly, I am guessing correct oil weight has more of an impact on whether or not you spin bearings.

Thousands have spun bearings on every kind of oil...I don't think there is anything wrong with Mobil1 at all. For a stock motor, mobil 1 worked awesome for me.

FWIW the AMSoil high zinc I am currently running is what I was running in my first built motor that spun the bearing...so if anything that helps your statement. However, I don't trust Cobb for shit due to recent events and I think they are tool's. And just because one shop (regardless of shop) says they have seen more failures on said oil, well like some have said, doesn't really mean much. However, both MAP and DB stock and recommend the AMSoil high zinc I use so I know its not a bad oil, tons use it on the national boards as well for built motors.

I know one thing, High zinc content and correct weight are what I care about as I know for fact that is good for a built motor. Also I ran Rotella on this motor and its still kicking great for breakin as a sidenote.

Kracka 06-20-2012 11:02 AM

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Scheides is going to have to break oil discussion off into it's own sub-forum then eventually delete it and ban it's discussion all together like politics :D

tpunx99GSX 06-20-2012 11:24 AM

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Back when i got my last GSX, the first oil change i did (wasnt sure how long the last one was), i tried Redline Oil. So expensip, but i guess it was good. Kinda like a microbrew of oil in the grand scheme of things. :)
So who runs Fram Filters here? Because based on some of the logic here, Mass production yields better results every time. :) (adds fuel to fire)

GsXtUrBo98 06-20-2012 06:51 PM

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Ams oil 10w 40 high zinc with wix filter

123abc 06-21-2012 06:05 AM

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I run mobil 1 10w30 in the warmer months, 5w30 in the colder months. No other oil filters besides wix oil filters will touch my car.

lucasoil4u 07-13-2012 09:10 AM

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Rotella T6 5w40 Synthetic. It doesnt get full of soot like other oils. Works great!


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