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blackrosenova400 06-16-2012 03:29 AM

Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
My wife(Shari) and I just currently purchased a 2009 Ralliart with a 6 speed automatic. Seems to be some rattling coming from the transmission. Sounds kind of like the common throwout bearing noise you hear on a 1g dsm.

Anybody have any knowledge of this transmission? Does it have a clutch or torque converter? Does this transmission have a normal planetary gear setup like an automatic or helical gears like a manual?


Will post pics soon!

Trogdor 06-16-2012 08:10 AM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blackrosenova400 (Post 408709)
My wife(Shari) and I just currently purchased a 2009 Ralliart with a 6 speed automatic. Seems to be some rattling coming from the transmission. Sounds kind of like the common throwout bearing noise you hear on a 1g dsm.

Anybody have any knowledge of this transmission? Does it have a clutch or torque converter? Does this transmission have a normal planetary gear setup like an automatic or helical gears like a manual?


Will post pics soon!

It's technically a manual, though its called an "automated manual." So despite the fact that it drives exactly like an automatic, it does have a twin disc clutch, and uses helical gears. I'm not super familiar with the SST. But if you're looking to take it to a shop, we have mechanic who's a Mitsu genuine.

scheides 06-16-2012 10:53 AM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
Ooh how does she like it?

Sucky about the noise, hope its nothing serious.

simulatedwood 06-16-2012 11:47 AM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63462

Is it a knock? I know my friends Mr does this.

blackrosenova400 06-16-2012 01:37 PM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
Thank you for that post, that is the exact noise and that page describes exactly when it occurs. It sounds like it isnt an issue

I think it sounds likes a pretty sweet transmission from the information I have gathered. Im just glad it isnt a 6 speed hydraulic automatic as it would be a nightmare of a transmission stuffed into the car.

Shari loves the car, especially since her previous car was a Kia Rio.
The car is quite fun off of the line for having 237hp.

Kracka 06-18-2012 11:26 AM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
It's basically a baby Evo. It's time you do some research into the SST!

rose0529 06-18-2012 01:25 PM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
Congrats on the car! What color and you need some pics!

blackrosenova400 06-18-2012 02:10 PM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
Ok I will get pics tonight hopefully. Its grey.

I have read up on the transmission, works similar to an eaton autoshift except more sophisticated.

Goat Blower 06-18-2012 04:21 PM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
Turbo AWD conversion!

Kracka 06-18-2012 04:39 PM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Goat Blower (Post 408811)
Turbo AWD conversion!

...try again ;)

Murlo26 06-18-2012 04:51 PM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 408817)
...try again ;)

:)

I am really considering one of these for my next DD...not sure if I could resist the mod bug on it though.

Great pickup!

Trogdor 06-18-2012 05:09 PM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 408818)
:)

I am really considering one of these for my next DD...not sure if I could resist the mod bug on it though.

Yeah, you might want a car that runs for a DD

blackrosenova400 06-19-2012 01:56 AM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
Yeah we are not modding this one! I forbid it!

Murlo26 06-19-2012 01:57 AM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blackrosenova400 (Post 408836)
Yeah we are not modding this one! I forbid it!

famous last words

Kracka 06-19-2012 09:03 AM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 408837)
famous last words

It's just a tune...just a simple boost controller...just a basic Evo X turbo swap...

;)

blackrosenova400 06-19-2012 01:08 PM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
Pics as promised

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...m/2012_104.JPG

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...m/2012_102.JPG

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...m/2012_093.JPG

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...m/2012_099.JPG

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...m/2012_100.JPG

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...m/2012_106.JPG

simulatedwood 06-19-2012 01:19 PM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
I have my stock evo x intercooler that would go nicely in that grill opening. :) .. I wouldn't call it modding but improving stock for stock. hehe

awd-drifter 06-19-2012 01:53 PM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
looks goood man.

blackrosenova400 06-19-2012 01:56 PM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
Is the X intercooler larger than the stock intercooler?

Murlo26 06-19-2012 02:05 PM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
Than the Ralliart one yes.

blackrosenova400 07-10-2014 12:57 AM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n...15647061_n.jpg


Well today has not been a good day for me and Shari. Shari was driving her Ralliart and she lost all movement. Transmisson seems toi be working as it goes through all gears. Unfortanatly it was put into park while transmisson was internally still moving and the parking pawl is not functioning so well anymore.

While car is on 4 stands and rear parking brake are set, I had her hold a front tire while I turned the other. I shouldnt have been able to turn it with her holding it. Driveshaft was not spinnning so that rules out the rear differential.

Drained the transfer case, fluid has slight metal flakes but nothing serious. Pulled the cover that you use to check pinion backlash, found no problems. Removed both front cv shafts and found no problems.

Next step, going remove the transfer case.

turbotalon1g 07-10-2014 09:15 AM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
Poop.

Kracka 07-10-2014 09:22 AM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
I wonder if flat-bed drivers have a running joke about AWD Mitsus?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n..._6353289_n.jpg

I'm trying to find a pic of my IX up on the flat-bed too, but I can't find it.

Murlo26 07-10-2014 09:39 AM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
Oh, fun game, mitsu on tow truck game!

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...o26/photo6.jpg

Not a flad bed but close.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/12ea7225.jpg


I have like 5 other instances of it being towed, I think they are on my home pc though and I am at work in north dakota.

This is a fun thread idea i think, tow truck thread.

scheides 07-10-2014 09:40 AM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
Pretty sure we should have an official thread about this, lol


Sucky, I have heard rumors of this parking pin issue on the MRs but never known anyone that it happened to...I hope thats not what it is but if it is, how hard is it to fix/at least get rolling?

blackrosenova400 07-15-2014 05:21 AM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
I beleive I found her problem. First one to guess what it is will be crowned king of Mitsubishi's for a day.

First clue, it plagued the drivetrain on 1gdsm's, maybe 2g's as well.

Halon 07-15-2014 09:13 AM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
Plagued 1G DSM drivetrains eh? Where do we start.

T-Case locked up? Tranny syncro's gone to shit? Shitty throw out bearing? Broken rear axle? DS carrier bearings? DS improperly alligned? 2-spider center diff broke?

Goat Blower 07-15-2014 09:37 AM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
Xfer case rear seal? :D

TkrPerformance 07-15-2014 12:07 PM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
It's a dsm now there are way to many problems with it. Best fix kill it with fire.

blackrosenova400 07-15-2014 01:32 PM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
So far nobody is correct. Next clue, rust is involved.

blackrosenova400 07-15-2014 01:38 PM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
Fourth clue, you had to do a count before replacement.

blackrosenova400 07-15-2014 01:39 PM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
Fourth clue, you had to do a count before replacement.

blackrosenova400 07-15-2014 10:51 PM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
Ok no more clues.

Pulled the transfer case out slightly from the transmission and a pile of powdered rust fell out between the transmission and transfer case. Found the splines of the transmission and transfer case completely dogged and rusted out. There are multiple splines/teeth missing from the transfer case and transmission.

It appears here is supposed to be an o-ring on the transfer case housing to prevent water from contaminating the shafts, but the o-ring was not there. Since this is the first time it has been pulled on this car, it would appear this is an assembly fault by Mitsubishi.

Will get pictures soon.

blackrosenova400 07-16-2014 04:49 AM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...m/CIMG2327.JPG

Here is where Mitsubishi neglected to install a 2$ o-ring to properly seal water/rust contamination.

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...m/CIMG2332.JPG

Here you can see the teeth heavily worn from rust on the t-case.

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...m/CIMG2325.JPG

Here there is a pile of powered rust. There is actually more than what the picture is showing.

There is alot more damage I cant get a good shot of at the moment. Specifically completlely missing teeth/splines.

Its all stripped out and the repair probably will require a new t-case and new front differnetial in the transmission.

Kracka 07-16-2014 08:17 AM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
Oh man, that is no good :(

Halon 07-16-2014 09:25 AM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
Who is doing the work on the car? Will Mitsu warranty it if they aren't the ones doing the work & finding the issue first hand?

Kracka 07-16-2014 09:29 AM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
It's out of warranty, I think she told me 103k miles on Facebook.

simulatedwood 07-16-2014 10:12 AM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
I am shocked it didn't leak, So bizzare.. Good news is you find a junk sst/ transfer case and you will be cooking with gas!

blackrosenova400 07-16-2014 01:31 PM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
There are still oil seals on the transfer case and transmission to prevent oil leaking, but only that o-ring would have prevented water contamination between the transmission and t-case.

scheides 07-16-2014 06:00 PM

Re: Shari's 2009 Raliart
 
that is nuts! I've never seen that before to be honest. :(


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