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blackrosenova400 03-16-2011 02:28 PM

Failing a college class...
 
I need some help or advice on my wifes situation. Shes been attending Rasmussen college for 3 years. Last year she dropped out of her classes because we were getting married and had too much load in her life to focus on her classes.

As of now she has been taking one of the classes that she dropped, which is very hard, and has failed it. Now the college is telling her she can not take it again because she has failed it twice, once for dropping it once once for actually failing it. Now it appears her three years and expensive tuition is wasted because they wont allow her to take it again, and it is a required class.

Anybody have any insite or advice in this situation?

tehehodi 03-16-2011 02:31 PM

Re: Failing a college class...
 
I would talk to a advisor and see what they can do for you. I don't see why you couldn't take it again. I mean you are paying for it.

If they don't let her take it, is there maybe an alternative class she could take?

Maybe she has to retake a different class before taking that class again?

goodhart 03-16-2011 02:32 PM

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Wat? where does she go to school? I've never heard of such a thing, but I've only gone to one school (currently at St. Cloud State)

If they are getting their money I don't see why they would deny her taking the class again? seems stupid.

edit: nvm, I saw Rasmussen now.

Matt D. 03-16-2011 02:43 PM

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I don't see how they can deny her access to a required class. She needs to speak to an advisor.

blackrosenova400 03-16-2011 02:58 PM

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Wow so many replies so quickly, thanks guys. It is really hard for me to see her like this, she has worked very hard only to be told all her efforts are worthless becaue she has failed a very hard class.

If by speak to an advisor, she has spoken to a counsler who has told her all of this. I think she may try to talk to the dean. This just all sounds silly like you guys say, if shes paying she should be able to take the class.

And it is a required course for her major, not an elective.

Matt D. 03-16-2011 03:00 PM

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Yes, it doesn't make sense that this is her major and they are denying her access to a required class.

LingLing 03-16-2011 06:09 PM

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I went to Rasmussen and when I failed a class the first time they put me on "academic probation". Which meant if I didn't meet their GPA requirement's for that class the second time I would have to take a "leave" of either 6 months or 1 year. I forgot. I think it was 6 months. She should definitely be able to retake that class; especially if she dropped those classes rather than fail them.

mlomker 03-16-2011 08:29 PM

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How many credits does she have? I assume this is toward a 4yr degree. If worst comes to worst, Rasmussen appears to be accredited so the credits could be transferred to another school. A lot of schools are generous with transfer credit. One perk of transferring is that your GPA resets and flunked courses drop off the transcript.

I personally didn't finish my masters in the allowed time so I can empathize with feeling that a lot of time was wasted. In this case, there are probably a lot of options.

twack 03-16-2011 08:35 PM

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how bad of a credit hit would she take if she transfered schools?

LingLing 03-16-2011 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 376834)
How many credits does she have? I assume this is toward a 4yr degree. If worst comes to worst, Rasmussen appears to be accredited so the credits could be transferred to another school. A lot of schools are generous with transfer credit. One perk of transferring is that your GPA resets and flunked courses drop off the transcript.

I personally didn't finish my masters in the allowed time so I can empathize with feeling that a lot of time was wasted. In this case, there are probably a lot of options.

That's where Rasmussen gets you. I was told my credits would transfer to any state university too. But when I tried to transfer them to MSU, damn near none of them were good there. So I am actually redoing 16 credits I have already paid for and earned. So just be careful of that.

I am now finishing my degree through University of Phoenix. MUCH better than Rasmussen and their staff is ten folds better too. Again, my credits from University of Phoenix won't really transfer either, but they don't keep you in the dark and feed you shit like Rasmussen did to me when I went there.

Alpha D 03-16-2011 09:14 PM

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Heck yeah, no way a school should be able to do or CAN do that! Not even a private college! What they are pretty much saying is. . . . we wont give you your diploma. Unless you go for a whole nother 4 years or what ever she was going for. That does not make any sense. Advisor or straight principal of the school. I dealt with a similar situation it was resolved very rapidly once higher ups were addressed. It will maybe take time and effort but it will be worth it.

mlomker 03-16-2011 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LingLing (Post 376840)
my credits from University of Phoenix won't really transfer either

Depends on the school that you are trying to transfer into. They all want your money, regardless of what they say...it is a business.

I transferred 18 months of UoP credits to the school that I graduated from. I ended up graduating from Excelsior College, which is a bit of a DIY college. It's definitely not for most people. 100% credit transfer though. Proceeded to enroll in grad school with that degree without an issue. There are tons of cool degrees for IT people these days...I had to be a business major.

I guess what I'm saying is that the education game really is a game and I'm good at puzzling out and playing that kind of game. Shop the credits around if you really want to transfer out...take the school that gives you the best deal. haha.

tpunx99GSX 03-16-2011 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Alpha D (Post 376842)
Advisor or straight principal of the school.

Its called a Dean, not a principal, we are talking college not high school. lol just giving you shit.

Anyways, first have her talk to the head of the Department that the class is part of. (sometimes this is the teacher) have her explain the situation where she dropped the class due to too much life stress and was having trouble keeping everything in line. And failed the second time due to extenuating circumstances. You basically need someone that can vouch for her that is higher than a counselor. you may need to fill out some paperwork and get it signed by the department head, then go to the deans office with it to get approval to retake the class. Be methodical and go through the levels and you will have better success than going directly to the dean.

blackrosenova400 03-17-2011 12:33 AM

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HI guys, Thanks for all the info. This is said wife!
Wanted to fill you in on a couple things.
I am attending for my Assoicates Degree 96 credits for Medical Administration Full Time/Part Time 3 courses a quarter. I was set to graduate in June. One quarter left. :( No luck on anything yet. Waiting for call back from the Director whom I have left 3 messages for and finally was told he left early, after various attempts to contact him. Talked to councelor who told me my only option was to start over with a different Major that did not require that class.
Have looked at other Colleges IE: Minnesota School Of Business and Hennepin Tech both a little bit different not sure if credits will transfer.
Thanks again for all the suggestions.

goodhart 03-17-2011 01:07 AM

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Wow, this kinda scares me now, my wife is supposed to start at Rasmussen St. Cloud nest month also for same exact thing.

mlomker 03-17-2011 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 376865)
Wow, this kinda scares me now, my wife is supposed to start at Rasmussen St. Cloud nest month also for same exact thing.

Most schools have a policy that you have to withdraw from a course by a certain date or it gets counted as a zero. Based on the original post, I think she just didn't understand the implications of dropping her course when she did.

I can relate to burn-out...she probably just didn't care at the time.

x-pride 03-17-2011 12:58 PM

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You can also check to see if the school has a petition process. This process usually gets reviewed by the school board to determine if she can retake the class.

Perkul8r 03-17-2011 01:18 PM

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My gf was taking classes through that colleges branch here in Bismarck. She had to take a semester off due to our sons cancer situation and when she went back to do her classes they just dropped her. I cant remember their exact reason. But she would have had to start all over again. I was kinda pissed.

AJ 03-17-2011 01:21 PM

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Got any names of who she has talked to? My co-worker is good friends with someone high up @ Rasmussen (might even be the dean if I recall), and I could run the name by him as well as the situation.

blackrosenova400 03-17-2011 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AJ (Post 376926)
Got any names of who she has talked to? My co-worker is good friends with someone high up @ Rasmussen (might even be the dean if I recall), and I could run the name by him as well as the situation.


Which Rasmussen?

AJ 03-17-2011 02:02 PM

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Just talked to him, his friend is the dean of admissions at the BP campus off 169.

He's also thinking she's probably suspened to the 6mo/1yr, but they apparently have changed their basis for enrollment and other changes to improve their gradutaiton rate. What that really means, I have no idea.

LingLing 03-17-2011 02:06 PM

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[QUOTE=blackrosenova400;376860]Talked to councelor who told me my only option was to start over with a different Major that did not require that class. QUOTE]

That smells VERY fishy to me. Something isn't right there. I would try getting a hold of someone higher up if you can. I have never heard of a school denying you the ability to retake a class. Let alone telling you that you have to change majors to graduate.

daoshao 03-18-2011 08:00 AM

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Wife went to rasmussen and failed one of the required courses the first time. The teacher and counselor told her not to fail again or else she would be suspended and put on academic probation. Wifey ended up quiting her part time job and focused on passing that class. Wife passed it with ease the second time.

Your wife is going to have to wait 6 months to a year or transfer to a sister school. I say 'sister' school, because rasmussen credits don't really transfer to other schools too well.

AJ 03-18-2011 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by daoshao (Post 377012)

Your wife is going to have to wait 6 months to a year or transfer to a sister school. I say 'sister' school, because rasmussen credits don't really transfer to other schools too well.

That's part of their change, some of these schools are good, but their credits don't transfer for shit, not like a regular university would.

They are moving to better their program and obviously that entails caring more about the overall education and graduation rate than just taking payment for classes as and allowing someone unlimited chances to "pay" for their degree.

End result here is she will probably get one more chance after a 6/12 month suspension and that will be it. Fail again and yes, she'll need to find another school or another program without that required class if allowed to stay in school at all.

Super Bleeder!! 03-18-2011 10:34 AM

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Why do people go to these strange small schools anyway? Are they cheaper?

How are they better than a more popular public school like the UoM or one of the big private schools like St.Thomas.

tpunx99GSX 03-18-2011 10:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Super Bleeder!! (Post 377036)
Why do people go to these strange small schools anyway? Are they cheaper?

How are they better than a more popular public school like the UoM or one of the big private schools like St.Thomas.

They are usually a lot cheaper i believe.

Super Bleeder!! 03-18-2011 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX (Post 377038)
They are usually a lot cheaper i believe.

Proof?

goodhart 03-18-2011 10:59 AM

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LOL, not Rasmussen. My tuition last fall at SCSU was $3,700, I know my Wife's for spring quarter is roughly that. They do 4 quarters instead of 2 semesters (Summer being optional but typically shorter)

I think the reason people go to schools like rasmussen, dunwoody, etc, is for the more specialized subjects, more hands on, its more like tech school than a university from what I gather.

A//// Guy 03-18-2011 11:00 AM

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I went to Normandale, where all credits transfer to major schools. Then I transferred to Metro State, which was almost the same price as Normandale but they offer 4 year degrees and are a MNSCU school.

See if somehow she can transfer your credits elsewhere and pick up where she left off.

Sucky situation though.

AJ 03-18-2011 04:46 PM

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The big upside to some of these schools is that they are more program driven. Look at DeVry, they focus on Finance and Business areas. MN School of Business, same thing, decent programs, but both schools credits won't transfer to a university like a community college would, and they never were originally designed to either.

Personally, if you going back to school now for say accounting or finance, a university is not for the best choice imho. You can really get more specific education these days, but it's if you don't choose a university or cc to start with, and fail or decide to go another route it can be a bad move financially.


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