Build your Dream DSM...
 

If you haven't done this... well you probably aren't a true DSMer.

Keep this realistic, but pretend money isn't an object for the most part.

Evo boys... this thread doesn't apply to you! :D


Head - Mild Port, Springs, Retainers
Head Gasket - Fel-Pro PermaTorque
Cams - HKS 264 Intake / HKS 272 Exhaust
Head Studs - ARP
Block - 2.0 W/ 1g Big Rods mated to 2g Pistons (2.3 wouldn't be bad either, but trying to keep it simple)
Turbo - HTA68
Exhaust Mani. - Forced Performance Race Cast Manifold, Ceramic Coated
Intake Mani. - Hawver Motorsports Cast Aluminum Intake Manifold, Thermal Dispersant Coated
Intake - Forced Performance Intake with Recirculation mated with 2g MAS
Boost Control - Hallman Boost Controller
Exhaust - Megan Racing 3" Downpipe (ceramic coated) to 3" Megan Racing Cat-Back Exhaust W/ Megan Racing 3" Test Pipe
o2 Housing - LIPP Cast, Ceramic Coated
Injectors - FIC BlueMAX Fuel Injectors 1350cc (smaller if on pump only)
Fuel Pump - Full Blown 1g DSM Dual Walbro Kit (over kill for sure, sue me :) )
FMIC Core / Piping - ETS 'Race' Intercooler Core w/ 2.5" piping and J-pipe, Thermal Dispersant on Core and Piping
Wideband - Innovate LC-1
ECU - Eprom W/ DSMLink
BOV - Greddy Type S
Oil Cooling - Setrab Oil Cooler (thermal dispersant coated) W/ 90 Oil Cooler Housing and Boomba Oil Catch Can
Radiator - Fluidyne Aluminum Race Radiator, Thermal Dispersant Coated

then the other obvious basic mods...

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I thought you said money is no object. I think you can do better than Megan racing parts, LIPP O2 housing, Innovate LC-1, and stock internals. :)

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Yea, well, that is *my* dream set up... it might not be a 700whp build...

but it is reliable, basic, and good street power IMO. :D

Edit - I agree with you on Megan Racing parts... but I love their DSM exhaust parts, they are nice pieces IMHO. Also why are you hating on stock internals?? You think that set-up is gonna be pushing 500 AWHP on your dyno? I think not, so stock internals should do. ;)

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Those injs and fuel pumps are too big for the HTA68. A single pump setup would be much more reliable.

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you just about listed my 2g build to the item. It is a good setup, would suggest the 2.3 though. Works well.

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Munch stage 5 long block (thing could handle 1 million awhp ;)). Not sure what would be in it, but it'd be amazing!

FP exhaust mani
FP dsm 82hta
Side exit exhaust
Built auto w/billet converter
Direct port nitrous with a nice big shot
Full interior
Some slicks

And a tune from Shane!

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Straight E99 Homie

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Eff that, this is a dream set up. E311 for me. :D

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haha no suspension mods? You'd think you'd want a little more power if you're not going to make the thing turn ;)

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You still aren't going to need twin pumps or 1350s. I am just giving you shit though. :)

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Well I almost put the suspension set-up as KYB / AGX, but I figured someone would destroy me on that *cough* shane *cough*.

Obviously there are better set-ups, but this build is realistic for the most part money wise to me. Something I have been dreaming about for a while. Someday, someday...

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TT lsx
robispec/KW suspension
T-56
AWD.

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LOL! I like that, money and fabrication skills were not a problem in this build... reliable.

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whats not reliable?

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Oh lol, I didn't mean reliable in the sense of car functionality. I meant it as in that is a sick ass build and would take sick skills to accomplish.

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Here's my dream set up. Well the set up iam going for at the moment.

2g mas
Scm61
850cc
Walbro 255
Ets street front mount
3 inch turbo back custom made
4 puck unsprung xtd clutch
L19 headstuds

I want to see what a bone stock motor can put out with stock cams and stock intake manifold.

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Not much on pump gas.

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I was thinking e85. What size injectors do you think I should go with? I thought 850s would be big enough.

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^ Ditch the SCM61 and get something smaller / newer. Will make as much power and be much better for you on the street. SCM61 is a dino turbo bro.

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2.3l Crower/wisco* already have-*
Evo316g*
Lacroix's intake mani
FP exh mani
decent head(dont really care)*
big shot of spray for drag racing

koni/gc/hypercoil/RRE bearing plates*
RM front bar stock rear*
poly bushings*
17x9.5 forgelines with 255/40/17 slicks
Stoptech brakes
6pt roll bar
some good seats


would make for a fun autox/road car

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I know its old but I got a great deal on it and couldn't pass it up.

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Man! I keep trying to get rid of my SC61, but everytime I make a few other changes to the setup and redyno it makes more power. It makes more than what half of the guys that come in with billet 62 and billet 67 setups end up making.

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http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...yeBnIa55p-&t=1

This, and be it equipped with a 420a please.

But if I could build a dream DSM...

Evo VI Tommi Manikin

That counts right?

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Sell it, save up a few more hundred, get your self a better turbo. SCM61s spool like shit and make shit power on pump and probably E85 too.

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Might as well close the thread now, nobody is going to top that.

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You've always made more power than everyone else though, so this really doesn't count. Upgrade to a billet 67 and leave everyone in the dust already.

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I usually just buy a new turbo and then sell it before I get to use it.

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Sounds like my favorite setup pretty much to the "T". :) The FP68hta was on my wish list.

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The lyfe of a shop owner...

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I'm still not super sold on that yet. I know some have made decent power but it just is tough to beat a evo3 for $400 less and sacrifice 20hp.

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I can easily justify spending $990 on my turbo, regardless of how minimal the power gains are.

Talk to the EVO guys... they would go ghey for a turbo that cheap.

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Doesn't the HTA68 flow about the same a stock evo 9 turbo?

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No idea, but I would want to assume the HTA68 flows better than the IX, considering the HTA68 has a HTA wheel.

It might not have better top end but the mid-range has to be 15-20whp better for sure...

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+1, single pump and a set of 1000's would be dandy.

My dream DSM:
1991 eagle talon tsi awd, black w/ sunroof and black leather interrior
Air Conditioning that works
Power Steering that works
Radiator that keeps it cool no matter what
Canadian seat belts (delete silly auto belts)
ported 2G exhaust manifold
OEM Evo3 16g
ported 2G o2 housing
Thermal catback exhaust! Or maybe buschur 3"
Supra SMIC w/ custom end-tanks
Custom LICP/UICP
Some sort of SMIM w/ stock N/A TB
Single walbro, rewired
ID 1000cc/FIC 1100cc injectors
Evo8 ECU w/ speed density conversion
GSC S2 cams w/ beehive springs&stock evo retainers
Ported 2G head w/ L19 studs
6-bolt 4GCS (2.4L) bottom-end w/ manly i-beam or MAP UD rods & JE pistons
ACT 6-puck clutch
Shep fresh 2G trans & front LSD
aluminum driveshaft
leak-free xfer case & rear diff (4-bolt)
Evo Brembo brakes w/ ss lines & ultra blue fluid
Rear sway, all strut tower bars
Koni/eibach suspension
Evo9 wheels w/ appropriate rubber for summer
stock 1Gb talon wheels w/ general snow tires for winter
No gauges
Nice stereo w/ a nice 10" sub
Bitches in the back seat

Project Option: tubular exhaust mani to fit an stock twin-scroll evo9 turbo on a DSM, possibly upgrade to a BBK Full or BBK-B down the road.

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^ lol I like that scheides, took it to the next level. I might have to update my list now :)

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Updated List --

1991 Black with Silver Bottom Eagle Talon TSi AWD, NO Sunroof, Black Leather Interior

Head - Mild Port, 2g, Springs, Retainers
Head Gasket - Fel-Pro PermaTorque
Cams - HKS 264 Intake / HKS 272 Exhaust
Head Studs - ARP
Block - 6 Bolt, 2.0 W/ 1g Big Rods mated to 2g Pistons (2.3 wouldn't be bad either, but trying to keep it simple)
Turbo - HTA68
Exhaust Mani. - Forced Performance Race Cast Manifold, Ceramic Coated
Intake Mani. - Hawver Motorsports Cast Aluminum Intake Manifold, Thermal Dispersant Coated
Intake - Forced Performance Intake with Recirculation mated with EVO 8/9? MAS
Boost Control - Hallman Boost Controller
Exhaust - Megan Racing 3" Downpipe (ceramic coated) to 3" Megan Racing Test Pipe W/ 3" Megan Racing Cat-Back
o2 Housing - JMFab SS o2 Housing W/ Internal Dump, Ceramic Coated
Injectors - FIC BlueMAX Fuel Injectors 950cc
Fuel Pump - Rewired Walbro 255 HP
FMIC Core / Piping - ETS 'Race' Intercooler Core w/ 2.5" piping and J-pipe, Thermal Dispersant on Core and Piping
Wideband - AEM
ECU - Eprom W/ DSMLink
BOV - Greddy Type S
Oil Cooling - Setrab Oil Cooler (thermal dispersant coated) W/ 90 Oil Cooler Housing and Boomba Oil Catch Can
Radiator - Fluidyne Aluminum Race Radiator, Thermal Dispersant Coated
ABS - Deleted
Seat Belts - Canadian
Trans - Shep Stage 3
Brakes - Custom Evo 8/9 Brakes / Rotors
AC - Super Cool
Clutch - ACT 2600
Rear End - 4 Bolt

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Scheides hit the nail on the head with that list. I'd go with an FMIC instead of an SMIC due to the extra heat you'd see from the 16G on a 2.4L, but I can appreciate the sleeper logic.

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If he is running E85 he wouldn't have to worry about that.

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But you know what you are doing...that is a big plus, lol.

Most people slap together a bunch of parts and pray it works.

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I have been building it if the evo 3 counts.