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Apparently the tides just happen. The moon, sun and gravity have nothing to do with them. :rolleyes:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_805262.html

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What a boner hahaha

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The only thing I got out of that was that the guy he interviewed is a total crackpot. I don't know where he was going with the tide comment, but that other guy saying the church is full of atheists makes even less sense.

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LOL do i even need to comment about this? There are so many things that i could say that will likely get me banned that ill just shut up.
But i want to say one thing. Why are you calling the atheist a crackpot?

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I hate the way he conducts interviews, so annoying. Just get louder and speak over the other person to try and make your standpoint superior to the other.

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Yep, he has no self control when it comes to interviews. Makes me sick. I don't care what people believe one way or the other, but it's like he invited this guy on the show to speak down on him so he could sleep better at night.

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DO IT LIVE!! F*CKIN THING SUCKS!

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Isn't that how all of his interviews are? lol

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Bahahahaha!!! OMG, thats rich.

I didn't actually watch the video but just that snapshot of it is hilarious.

Also, I do feel that the atheist was a little out of line funding a billboard promoting atheism. Not because I think atheists are wrong, its just a downer to Christmas. Christmas time isn't the time to be trying to tell everyone how the holiday is a complete and utter fabrication of the church. (No, I'm not an atheist, I am an agnostic, there is a difference)

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I actually saw that live. It was not one of his better moments. But the other guy was just as bad. "Oh my, please come save me!!! I'm glued to this Church pew and I can't get up!!!" If you don't want to be there, there's nobody making you stay.

I don't think the church is filled with atheist, that's crazy.

I will say though, all this religion bashing going on these days is weakening the country more than it's helping. I mean really, who cares? Believe what you want. Give the other person respect for what he believes.

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*sighs* *facepalm*

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agreed!!

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Well since David Silverman's going to hell with the other non-believers, I think he's the knucklehead.

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Totally agree with that 100%

Wow....

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Because even as he agreed with, atheists are approximately 2% of the population, yet this guy thinks that all churches are full of closet atheists just going through the motions to impress other people at church. That's exactly like saying that most American men are closet homosexuals just waiting to get out,but pretend to be heterosexuals to impress other closet homos.

He's clearly speaking down to Christians, of which 80% of America claims to be, so the 2% are calling the 80% idiots in so many words. He has no idea of what he's talking about, so he's a crackpot.

Why exactly are the smallest groups the loudest whiners?

BTW, I'm not a big fan of Bill's interview techniques myself, I agree with a lot of what he has to say, but I prefer a slightly less confrontational approach. But then again, you've got the Katie Couric's and pretty much every other so-called reporter who constantly try to talk down any conservative they interview, so in that respect, Bill's a pretty nice guy. At least he doesn't pull out useless gotcha questions that have zero bearing on the focus of the interview.

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First off, where is this 2% coming from. i would love to see some studies or polls that actually support this. Because going by Bill O'really's word is not enough at all.
Secondly, I dont know why the smallest groups are the loudest whiners, maybe i should be asking that of the Republicans/Tea Partiers? They were the clear losers in the 08 election, and all i heard the past two years was how obama was destroying this country. WHINE WHINE WHINE. (and no i dont use the midterms as a method of determining majority because not as many people vote in those)
Finally, I am clearly an Atheist, I will never hide from that. The guy being interviewed was seriously going about the whole interview the wrong way and I have a strong feeling that Bill o'reallys staff did their research and knew he would be a dumbass. Any true Atheist would have DESTROYED Bill on EVERY SINGLE Question he stated. Going to his website, the approach he is taking towards Atheism and Religon, is just wrong. Sure its about believing in something completely different than what the masses think, but he is constantly on the attack, trying to disprove every story by the bible, koran and other books. The problem with that is that the stories of the bible, koran and religious books are not based on scientific fact, but to push a moral compass to north. (although this has been twisted and misinterpreted over the years like a large game of telephone).
Like when he says "the majority of christians are really Atheists". This quote should have been stated more like "The majority of Christians DO NOT act like christians." They go to church, yes, but then they treat others like shit and hide behind this veil of "Love Jesus". Example: Gun nuts, protecting their guns with all their might, killing "Gods Creatures" for sport and not for food, and yet they say they follow the path of jesus. I didnt realise that Jesus toted a AK and blasted all of the non believers and deer, rabbits, turkeys etc. Thats what i call rapture. hahah.
Its not that the Bill O'Really's 80% of people are stupid for believing in organized religion, but the majority of them are (and i hate to say this because im sure i will offend) sheep. They follow blindly without trying to question. The problem is that if someone changes the meaning of a passage, to fit their needs, whether it be to start a war, to bomb a building, or to condemn another. All of these are in a little thing we call history. Remember people, the bible, has been changed many MANY times over the centurys, to expand and bring in new groups of people.
My two cents, the only advice i can give you, is get educated. and Pick up the new book by Stephen Hawkings. :) oh... and coexist with all religions, and people. No one is right, no one is wrong. we all have our beliefs.

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You're little atheist buddy didn't disagree with that number, which constitutes agreement in this case. It's not just Bill saying it.

Nice try, but you're not even close. The Republicans are about 50% of the country which flops back and forth every four to eight years. A big difference from 2%.

You probably should, because clearly the only people that didn't turn out to vote was the democrats. But you can stick your head in the sand if you like.

Nothing wrong with that, everybody is entitled to their beliefs as they see fit. Diversity makes the world go round.

The guy they interviewed was the supposed leader of the atheist movement, were they supposed to interview a bunch of people and pick the best debater? He was the one that put up the billboards, he can certainly be asked why he did it.

So this guy was a fake atheist? Maybe he's a Christian just waiting to come out of the closet?

Scientific fact means something is proven beyond all doubt. Science can't prove that the bible or other religious books aren't true, and can't even prove it's own theories on evolution and such, it's all just a theory, so that's not really a point.

So all Christians should act the way you interpret, in something you don't believe in? I don't remember anything in the Bible stating "thou shall not hunt for sport". Just because you don't believe in guns, doesn't mean anybody else needs to.

There are a certain amount that fit that description, there's also a equal amount that delve into the Bible much farther than you know, but I don't know how you'd figure that out by reading the huffington post.

That's not advice, that's a high opinion of one's self, a common trait among liberals and atheists. Stephen Hawking? Maybe at some point, but it's not high on my list.

We do agree on one thing.

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My little atheist buddy??? Give me a fucking break, retract that statement because you sound very ignorant and immature. like i said later, he is not a leader of atheism. The more you talk, the more you prove to us you know less about what atheism is.

Like i said, Show me facts that say 2% of the people are atheists. And this doesnt flip flop, this will continue to gain strength as more facts come out about the true nature of the universe and how we have all come to be.

WTF? because he has a website called athiests.org? I believe that if there were a leader of the "Atheist Movement", as you like to call it, would be some of the great minds of the past and present, such as Stephen Hawking, Carl Sagen, Issac Newton, Johannes Kepler, Galileo, Rene Descartes, These people have provided more scientific theories, and proof that disproves the bible and religious beliefs than the idiot on bills show.
The guy that appeared on Bills show, is all about attacking religion, which is simply not the case with most Atheists. While Science (Atheism) will in the near future (if not already) disprove the myth of the almighty, Atheism is all about the quest to unravel the mysteries of how we came to be, as well as put scientific theories, and models to ACTUALLY show this. unlike Christians thought of going blindly into the light.

Fake, probably not, as he likely believes the methodology behind it, poorly portrayed and not a good interviewer, absolutely. I would love to see Bill O'really, go up against Stephan Hawking or a brilliant physicist, and watch him be absolutely demolished. But thats not in Bills nature. he has to feel superior.

Scientific fact disproved that the earth was flat, the earth wasnt the center of the universe, created the laws of nature, gravity, motion. And more then what the bible states. If the bible was a scientific book, God would cause the rock to fall from my hand, Earth would be the center of the universe where the sun revolves around us.


If you "Walk the Path of Jesus Christ", then gun toting hicks must have a pretty interesting picture of Jesus "Rambo" Christ. hahah. Are you serious with that statement. Because there are so many things wrong with that.

Do i need to quote the pew study that proved that Atheists know more about the teachings of Christianity than Christians?

Are you serious?!?!? "the only advice i can give you, is get educated." So uhm... you dont want to get educated? I dont care about whether you choose to get educated about your own religion, or not, just educate yourself about whats out there instead of following blindly a book that was written when the earth was flat. But if you choose the blind path, thats entirely up to you.

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Take it to PMs, ladies.

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There is nothing wrong with religious debate in the way off topic thread. we arent really making it personal. Just heated debate.

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This is a waste of time. Have fun.

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Yes, there is. This is a political forum, not a religious forum. I posted the link because Bill O'Reilly is a political commentator, not because of the religious aspect of the interview.

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You all have it wrong, Agnosticism is where its at. Because I don't know the truth, and neither do any of you.

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Used to be that. It was my intermediary before becoming Atheist. Went from catholic, left that and started researching other religions, theorys, and beliefs, (agnostic), then decided that Science was the best route because it is the only belief structure that seeks proof, and testing of the theory.

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Yes it is the politics forum, but you posted a video that is not political at all. it was pure religion. So basically religious debate was assumed.

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I think I just became more and more stupid as I read this.

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Tom, Science and Athiesm don't necissarily go hand in hand. Also, science is not a belief.

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+1
Trying to change someones core beliefs behind a computer on a Mitsubishi forum = waste of time.

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Tom, all you non-believers in the Flying Spaghetti Monster will surely boil in a delicious red sauce when your time comes.

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Actually... they do.

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Actually they don't. Science tries to find the reason behind why things exist and work the way they do. No where in any of my science classes has "disprove the existence of god" come up. Stop giving atheists and agnostics a bad name.

Also I'm tired of this "you will burn in hell" shit. Seriously you don't want to get me started on the matter of religion. Such as hell didn't exist in the early bible, that there are more books that were left out of the bible then put in it, the first stories about jesus were written decades after jesus died, the fact they took christmas from the pagans to help converting people, muslims jews and christians all worship the same god... Etc...

Believe what you want but as far as I'm concerned two things need to happen:
1.) Tom needs to stfu
2.) The bible thumpers need to stfu

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Science (mainly Physics) does not care about WHY, but are more concerned about the HOW. They are two VERY different things. There are very many tests going on right now as we speak that are disproving the core aspects of religion. Such as Creationism, Deities, Miracles and the like. The Halidron Collider is one of these experiments.
Just because you didnt take a class on it, doesnt mean they arent doing it. Pick up a couple books that werent assigned to you by a teacher or syllabus.

You have no idea the research i have done on these very topics, so i would suggest YOU stop giving agnostics and atheists a bad name. If you really want to debate this, i would be more than willing.

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http://wn.com/Stewie_Griffin_Flips_Out!

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BTW, it's spelled Hadron, not Halidron... So I don't really know what Dan Brown novels you have been reading but he sure is getting sloppy with his writing.

Anyways, just because they are doing tests that may or may not incidentally disprove certain aspects of religions that were written ~2000 years ago, does not mean that this is the active goal of science and there for means they are the saints and doers of Atheism.

The more science reveals the more questions come up, not really proving anything. I think the Jewish have it right in that they don't fear science the way Christianity does. Instead of science being a tool to disprove god, it is a tool to possibly prove he exists. We still only have theories as to the creation of the universe. Even if the Big Bang theory is true, where did that material come from?

I don't give Atheists, Agnostics, Christians, Jews, or Muslims a bad name. As I'm not the one claiming any of this science for any religion or ideology like you are. If science was such an Atheistic realm, then there wouldn't be theists that work in the industry.

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Don't drink the KoolAid

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Febo, Here is some reading material for you.

Read (and finished) this one over the weekend:
http://www.borders.com/online/store/...sku=0553805371
Explains how using Quantum Physics, M-Theory, Alternative Historys and other physics methods can prove HOW the big bang came about, and How the universe was created. Also explains how there is no such thing as a Miracle, how a Deity plays no role in the creation process.

More reading...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introduction_to_M-theory

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-Theory

Some Watching:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4I-XT5nH7g
(i havent watched this but i have a feeling what was said)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfPeprQ7oGc
While the below video looks like something you would see in an elementary class, it is very informative on Explaining the quantum physics experiment called the Double Slit Experiment. Which Stephen Hawking explains where the video leaves off, and how the tests when further where after the electron was shot, they then decided whether to observe or not, and found that by observing after it was fired, they were in essence writing the path that the electron took, as well as going into more detail as to what was really happening.

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I can't get too involved right now Tom, but I want to point out that arguing a theory with more theories does not make you right. It's actually kind of a pointless argument.

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Here's a question for all of you.

Who cares? Really. Why is it so important to try and destroy somebody else's beliefs? If somebody wants to believe in a higher power, and by doing so, it makes them a better person, which adds to their value in society, WHO REALLY FUCKING CARES?

Why is it so important to tear down that belief???

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^ I agree with that. I can see the value of religions. They teach morality and give guidelines on how to live a good life. They also provide a community for those when need arises, and also just so people can belong. We all need to feel like we belong to something. Hence the reason we have things like this very forum

I just do not like being told I'm going to a hell that I don't even believe in because I do not share the same beliefs as those people.

For all of the good that religion can do, it is by far the most evil thing on the planet when used wrong.

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In a perfect world that is all fine and dandy, and people who use religion to better their lives is great. And while this works for a lot of the religions of the world, especially today, this is not the case

Unfortunately this is not a perfect world and people use religion to create holy wars, bloodshed and hate. We are not only talking about Christianity here, but all religions. More blood has been shed in the name of religion than any disease, or any reason in the history of mankind.

History has taught us that when religion is involved people take very drastic measures to make sure their point is heard and will go to great lengths to defend it. Whether it be the persecution of "witches" to the genocide of the Jews, to the events of 9/11. Every religion is guilty of atrocities that if there was a God, he would damn the whole lot of us.

Why have I chosen the path of Atheism? Because I do not believe society and the world as a whole is better with religion in it, and I would rather see Science and Physics put an end to it and make people grow up and start acting decent towards each other. With the way we twist words and misrepresent and misinterpret the religion we believe, it only leads to more chaos, bloodshed and persecution.

Im sorry if what I say offends some of you, but its really time for people that say they believe in a peaceful god to start acting peaceful and stop misrepresenting their god by killing and hating people different from you. We all have one large thing in common, we are children of EARTH, we are all stuck on this planet together (at least for now), so lets all coexist peacefully.