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Matt D. 12-07-2010 09:42 AM

Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
This guy needs to hang it up already.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z7gs0D1zaY&hd=1

goodhart 12-07-2010 09:54 AM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
haha, owned at his own event.

That announcer needs to be shot though. He was by far the worst part about the video.

awd-drifter 12-07-2010 10:11 AM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 367891)
haha, owned at his own event.

That announcer needs to be shot though. He was by far the worst part about the video.

x2. that announcer was annoying as fuck.

mdost03 12-07-2010 10:35 AM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
I thought he still did decent?

Matt D. 12-07-2010 10:43 AM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by totaleclipse_05 (Post 367899)
I thought he still did decent?

How about no.

http://www.wrc.com/results/

goodhart 12-07-2010 10:48 AM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D. (Post 367900)


If you hold it upside down he did pretty well! :lol:

polishmafia 12-07-2010 10:51 AM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
I'm so sick of hearing about this guy. Just because he made a video of him driving in circles in and out of buildings and around cones, almost everyone busts a nut when they hear his name.

t-revzr 12-07-2010 10:55 AM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
So he sucks because he got silver?? mmmkkk

goodhart 12-07-2010 11:00 AM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by t-revzr (Post 367905)
So he sucks because he got silver?? mmmkkk

As trevor takes off his Ken block shirt and flat billed hat......

Matt D. 12-07-2010 11:10 AM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by t-revzr (Post 367905)
So he sucks because he got silver?? mmmkkk

You wear a Monster hat sideways and have a matching Subaru/Monster t-shirt. Your opinion is invalid. :lol:

He got beat at his own game by a real race driver. You know, someone with natural talent. Deal with it. :cool:

awd-drifter 12-07-2010 11:28 AM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by polishmafia (Post 367903)
I'm so sick of hearing about this guy. Just because he made a video of him driving in circles in and out of buildings and around cones, almost everyone busts a nut when they hear his name.

hahah! so true. All the Honda guys still thinks he is the best rally driver out there....lmao. Thanks for the link Matt D, I will show it to all my friends who think that he is the best. lmao. I'm sure he can drive well, but he definitely is at LEAST equivalent to a 7th or 8th round pick in the NFL if it is even possible. lololol

MATCHBX 12-07-2010 12:29 PM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
http://www.specialstage.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=38138

Further proof that Ken can't handle a car. 2008 and 2009 were not good to him at Ojibwe. He crashed both years. 2008 he had a good lead the whole weekend and then dnf'd on the last stage. 2009 he hit a rock on an apex and sent the front suspension through the hood and flipped the car. If you go to the link in thread I posted, the first 30 or so photos are of Block's car. Alex Gelsomino (his co-driver) is cool as hell. I spoke to him on both occasions and he is really a nice guy. I feel sorry for him having to be saddled with such a dick for a teammate. I've never had respect for Ken.

Sorry, I'll get off my rant-box now.

Shane@DBPerformance 12-07-2010 12:33 PM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
Guy who started a shoe company vs Finnish drivers who have been rallying since they were 14... All the money in the world can't buy a win in WRC.

123abc 12-07-2010 01:40 PM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ecoli (Post 367922)
Guy who started a shoe company vs Finnish drivers who have been rallying since they were 14... All the money in the world can't buy a win in WRC.

Exactly. You either have driving talent or you don't....at least talent to compete on a world level....

Tachyon 12-07-2010 03:15 PM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
I think I've made it loud and clear from before where I stand on my opinion of this...

FUCK YOU KEN BLOCK, YOU TALENTLESS JACKWAGON!


........So instead I will just wish good luck to Petter Solberg in 2011!

ylimert01 12-07-2010 07:11 PM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
yes he is extremely overrated and I wanted to kill the announcer by the end of the day... I watched this thing live all day and I knew tanner would win he killed it.

311evo 12-07-2010 08:26 PM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
He's still a great driver, but at a different level than those guys.

Troy Rossberg 12-07-2010 09:04 PM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
What TV Station do they play this video on?

CarPsyco84 12-07-2010 09:58 PM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
Yeah, he sucks, bet all you guys could do better...

Halon 12-07-2010 10:10 PM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
What's a Ford Festia?

MustGoFaster 12-07-2010 11:17 PM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 311evo (Post 367954)
He's still a great driver, but at a different level than those guys.

+1 His videos manage to trick a lot of people into thinking his shit don't stink, but the truth of the matter is that all shit stinks.

Constant_Project21 12-07-2010 11:48 PM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
I don't see where the hate for this guy comes from. Now I'm no block fanboy, I don't own any monster/dc clothing, and can't say I've even ridden in a suby, but find me a quote from him guaranteeing victory, or saying he is the greatest rally driver ever...ill wait...... What makes block different from those other drivers, is he found a way to make rally marketable to a wider US audience, and get people to watch. Aside from you rally nuts, and people who follow racing, I can almost guarantee if you ask any other person, to name a rally driver, they won't be able too (hell I can't think of one off of the top of my head). Say the name ken block, and there's a better chance of that name ringing a bell. The fact of the matter is, he can drive, rally prob isn't his forte, but he can drive. Like carpyscho said above, I'm sure all of us could do better (<<<sarcasm). Haters are going to hate, and ken block will continue to make money selling shoes, and sliding his fiesta around cones and in and out of buildings. I give the guy props, he probably loves what he does, and makes bank to boot! I guess I got a little off the topic, I agree if you're doing poorly, to step away so someone worth the spot can have a chance to compete. They would be better off hiring a new driver, and leave the neat drifting and such to ken block. Its not like everyone who watches the gymkhana videos watches rally anyways.

A side note to this rant, has anyone met the guy? Is he a douche like 98% of his fanbase, or is he cool? I'm not one to judge a book by its cover.

FattyBoomBatty 12-08-2010 12:41 AM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by totaleclipse_05 (Post 367899)
I thought he still did decent?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D. (Post 367900)

Matt, he was talking about the video you posted, not WRC scores. In the video you posted, ken block was hanging with foust the whole time and was only behind by a second or so at most.

In the same way that block fan boys idolize him and wear their sideways hats, you idolize anything that isn't ken block for really stupid reasons like: He makes cool videos doing shit you couldn't, has a lot of money and big name sponsors and people like him, and he can't do well in competitions, generally speaking.

Yeah, those are somewhat valid points, but you are a bunch of bandwagon jumpin' on haterade drinking not pro rally drivers. Was there a lack of jealous, celebrity hating threads lately?

xveganxcowboyx 12-08-2010 01:07 AM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
Did anyone else think it was really tacky of the announcer to repeatedly rub his face in the fact that he came in 2nd at his own event?

mdost03 12-08-2010 02:39 AM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FattyBoomBatty (Post 367981)
Matt, he was talking about the video you posted, not WRC scores. In the video you posted, ken block was hanging with foust the whole time and was only behind by a second or so at most.

In the same way that block fan boys idolize him and wear their sideways hats, you idolize anything that isn't ken block for really stupid reasons like: He makes cool videos doing shit you couldn't, has a lot of money and big name sponsors and people like him, and he can't do well in competitions, generally speaking.

Yeah, those are somewhat valid points, but you are a bunch of bandwagon jumpin' on haterade drinking not pro rally drivers. Was there a lack of jealous, celebrity hating threads lately?

This^^

I think his videos are pretty sweet and by no means am a fanboy, but it's annoying when people keep reiterating "HE SUCKS!!1!!11!". He has talent and probably doesn't think he is god's gift to racing himself. Get over it already.

311evo 12-08-2010 04:11 AM

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Matt D. 12-08-2010 10:03 AM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FattyBoomBatty (Post 367981)
Matt, he was talking about the video you posted, not WRC scores. In the video you posted, ken block was hanging with foust the whole time and was only behind by a second or so at most.

Foust made mistakes, was penalized and still beat him. Did you even watch the video? Foust's lines were impeccable. The only thing Block did better was keeping his bumper on the stacks of tires, something he's done many times in the hundreds of takes it took to make his gymkhana videos.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FattyBoomBatty (Post 367981)
In the same way that block fan boys idolize him and wear their sideways hats, you idolize anything that isn't ken block for really stupid reasons like: He makes cool videos doing shit you couldn't, has a lot of money and big name sponsors and people like him, and he can't do well in competitions, generally speaking.

Do I? You're saying Ken Block is the only one who can do pinpoint turns and roast the tires in an AWD car? I guarantee that if you give most anyone (myself included) the seat time he has had to perfect his art that his videos could be recreated. He is a marketing genius and knows how to show off, but he lacks racecraft. As a racing enthusiast I would much rather see someone else driving for him and him being the team owner rather than him promoting the douchebaggery he already does.
Quote:

Originally Posted by FattyBoomBatty (Post 367981)
Yeah, those are somewhat valid points, but you are a bunch of bandwagon jumpin' on haterade drinking not pro rally drivers. Was there a lack of jealous, celebrity hating threads lately?

Whut?

A//// Guy 12-08-2010 10:13 AM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
MattD stop being so jealous! Sideways hats unite!

Tachyon 12-08-2010 11:24 AM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
I am with Matt on this one.

Ordinarily I’d just let this go, but having been involved in stage rally (for over a decade) first as a spectator, then as a volunteer, team member, and now driver, being called a Band-Wagoner is a little more than I am willing to tolerate.

First, let preface by saying Ken Block is in retail marketing, not motorsports. If you cannot realize this concept, then case in point.
Second, low speed parking lot antics have about as much to do with stage rally as weekend T&C does with a professional drag team. It just isn’t the same thing, not even close.

The beef with Block is not so much with the man; I’ve only met him once, and for only a couple of minutes so I cannot base much of an opinion off that. The beef is he has selected ‘rally’ as his chief marketing tool, and is dumbing it down to some circus-clown antics to be spoon fed to our ADD infested generation to digest.

It just really makes my piss boil that marketing trumps skill, because not everyone who participates in something wants to whore out themselves out to the level that Block does. After all, who here has even heard of Antoine L'Estage, this year’s winner of both US and Canadian rally (in an Evo X no less).

It’s hard to be ‘jealous’ of the man’s success, when quite frankly, he hasn’t had any in the racing community. His few ‘wins’ in Rally America are more of an indicator of the finance gap between the limited national teams. For the record, I have nothing but respect and admiration for real rally drivers such Sebastian Loeb, Marcus Grönholm, Carlos Sainz, Tommi Mäkinen, or the late Richard burns and Colin McRae.

Even if Block survives enough time to have limited success at the WRC level -which would be amazing if it ever happens, For me to like him he would have to lose the 40-something skater punk personality, and act like a mature racing driver who understands he is playing a deadly game. This of course will never happen since it’s part of his marketability.

Also, I wonder how much Block forked out to get a spot on Ford’s Jr. team :wink:

Thank you for your time.

MATCHBX 12-08-2010 12:56 PM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
I've had the displeasure of dealing with Mr. Block on several occasions away from the picture taking and fans mobbing him and he is absolutely a D-bag. He treats his teammates and those who are there to help him like sh!# when the crowds and camera are away. I've been running safety sweep for the quite a number of years at the minnesota rallys. We've been on scene for both of his crashes at Ojibwe and he was very unpleasant to be near. Now before anyone says "well his adrenaline was pumping at the time" I have to clear up one point, he was being a prick to the medic that was trying to make sure that he was ok after the huge roll in 2009 and also to the sweep personnel there to assist him. He couldn't be bothered with anything that we needed to do to make sure he was ok. Any rally driver (or professional racer) that has been racing for any amount of time knows that you don't behave like that.

He is a good driver, but he's too high up on his horse to think that he has more to learn. If you want to see a true ambassador for motorsports in general for the younger generation, look to Travis. Travis knows his place and how to act. He is a genuine nice guy that will take time out of his day to sign anything put in front of him and take pictures with anyone that wants one. It's not an "inconvenience" to him. He is willing to actually listen to instructors on how to get better at racing. Not just the driving part, but the whole picture. I don't think Ken has that ability. He has no sense of humility at all. Because of his lack of sense in that department it takes a good driver and makes him a crappy driver overall. He may have some skills that the rest of us could only hope to have with driving a car. But without knowing control of one's self, it's pretty much a waste of talent. And no amount of dollars will be able make up for that.

BTW, if I remember correctly, he sold his shares of DC Shoes. I'm not 100% sure of all of the exact details but I know he is no longer a co-owner of it. Or maybe he stepped down as president or whatever. But I could be wrong also.

98gstaherns 12-08-2010 05:09 PM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
Mattd= ken block...... he is just trying to get more people to watch his movies that he makes.

t-revzr 12-08-2010 05:55 PM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
Who cares if he acts like a skater or however he acts. The guy is having fun with life doing what he wants. I've never once seen him brag about anything.

cmspaz 12-08-2010 06:29 PM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by t-revzr (Post 368065)
Who cares if he acts like a skater or however he acts. The guy is having fun with life doing what he wants. I've never once seen him brag about anything.

But on the flip side, he should still be capable of acting in a professional manner in a professional setting. It's true, it doesn't really matter how he treats his team, that's between him and them. But when he's treating volunteers and staff at the events that garner his paycheck like shit too, that's when it stops being a "who cares" situation and starts being one where he needs to grow up and learn to control himself.

ylimert01 12-08-2010 06:32 PM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MATCHBX (Post 368044)
I've had the displeasure of dealing with Mr. Block on several occasions away from the picture taking and fans mobbing him and he is absolutely a D-bag. He treats his teammates and those who are there to help him like sh!# when the crowds and camera are away. I've been running safety sweep for the quite a number of years at the minnesota rallys. We've been on scene for both of his crashes at Ojibwe and he was very unpleasant to be near. Now before anyone says "well his adrenaline was pumping at the time" I have to clear up one point, he was being a prick to the medic that was trying to make sure that he was ok after the huge roll in 2009 and also to the sweep personnel there to assist him. He couldn't be bothered with anything that we needed to do to make sure he was ok. Any rally driver (or professional racer) that has been racing for any amount of time knows that you don't behave like that.

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agreed..I have heard this from many people involved in rally..yeah his vids are fun to watch but thats about it...anyone can make vids like that with money...and some sort of talent or bought talent.

Goat Blower 12-08-2010 09:25 PM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
Foust is a damn good driver, I have more respect for him every time I watch Top Gear. What was said above is true, Block is a marketing genius with unlimited money. Kudos to him for putting his money into his passion though.

Alpha D 12-08-2010 11:24 PM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
I still like ken block. I know for a fact none of us could do half of what he can. So why bash ken and not just enjoy to good drivers. Kenblocks stunt videos are still fun to watch. That terry guy dosnt he drive the scion with the nascar engine in it?

311evo 12-09-2010 02:12 AM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
I have to agree, I don't care what you say the videos are fun to watch. I could care less about his rankings in rally, that's not why I like him.

DoughtCom 12-09-2010 02:32 AM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CarPsyco84 (Post 367964)
Yeah, he sucks, bet all you guys could do better...

+1

rose0529 12-09-2010 08:28 AM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
omg.. i just dont know what to say about this..

http://www.traxxas.com/products/mode...c/7309kenblock

http://www.traxxas.com/sites/default...w-blacktop.jpg

Matt D. 12-09-2010 09:18 AM

Re: Proof that Ken Block can't race
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpha D (Post 368092)
I know for a fact none of us could do half of what he can.

Do you really? Give me the time he's had in the car and we will see.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpha D (Post 368092)
So why bash ken and not just enjoy to good drivers.

Because he paid to be where he is and he's still not very good at racing.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpha D (Post 368092)
Kenblocks stunt videos are still fun to watch.

That's not why I made this thread, now is it?


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