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carltalon 11-13-2010 08:51 AM

Project: Auto FWD
 
After Three differnt trips to the track this summer with shifting problems, and never getting a clean pass I've decided to jump on the auto bandwagon. Aaron set me up with 99% of the parts I need for the swap so progress has already started. So far I have the clutch/ brake pedal assembly swaped out with the auto pedal. And I have the auto shifter and cable installed. I still have to add the TCU harness to my wireing harness, and get everything bolted up under the hood. I feel like Im making good progress so far considering I still have the rest of winter to collect parts and finish the swap. My goal will be to have the car back together to make some shakedown passes at opening day at Grove Creek 1/8th mile in the spring.

I plan on running

-reprogramed TCU with full line pressure and shift points
-restalled stock converter (I'd like to find somewhere local to do the restall if anyone knows a good shop)
-Kiggley or IPT end clutch
-I'll be putting my LSD insert diff from my 5-speed in the auto
-26x10.5x15 slicks ( these will be the last think puchased if I can find the money If not I'll be running my Hooser DR's or 24X9X15" slicks)

IF any Auto guru's see anything missing let me know I'm trying to keep this as cheap as possably so any info on doing things right the first time would be great.

turbotalon1g 11-13-2010 09:09 AM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
I can't wait to see this car, I remember us running at RF together 2 yrs ago.
Shame we never got to run on the street.

carltalon 11-13-2010 09:19 AM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
Here's whats done so far

Auto Brake pedal installed.
http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/...p/DSC02972.jpg
Auto shifer installed.
http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/...p/DSC02979.jpg
I had to cut a hole through the floor boards to run the cable.
http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/...p/DSC02969.jpg
http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/...p/DSC02974.jpg
http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/...p/DSC02976.jpg

DSM1G 11-13-2010 10:43 AM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
If you want an auto fwd why dont you just buy my car. It already has an IPT racing tranny and stall converter in it.

turbotalon1g 11-13-2010 10:50 AM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
^Your car is $3800, all he needs is a trans. he got all the swap stuff for $200.

I'd say why don't you part your car, and don't jack other peoples threads, esp. project threads.

Carl, get some pics up of the shell. I want to see what it looks like with the new wheels.

carltalon 11-13-2010 10:53 AM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DSM1G (Post 365949)
If you want an auto fwd why dont you just buy my car. It already has an IPT racing tranny and stall converter in it.

If I had $3800 I would have. Your car looks amazing.

If you ever deside to part it I'd take the conveter

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 365950)
Carl, get some pics up of the shell. I want to see what it looks like with the new wheels.

Heres what I have of the shell I only have a few camera phone pics since the wheels were powdercoated.
http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/...22194257-1.jpg
http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/...2101812-00.jpg
Cobra R's Powdercoated satin black Thanks to Premo Performance
http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/...2101502-00.jpg
A few when the wheels were still chrome
http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/...n/car/grey.jpg
http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/...r/DSC02719.jpg
My favorite pic of my car in action at BIR
http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/...5335nu0mrj.jpg

GG_9_SE 11-13-2010 04:08 PM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
I love this car! And its fast as hell it went 101mph through the traps at grove creek spinning the tires. I can't wait to see it again with some auto trans action. Nice work carl!
If I don't make sense drunk posting FTW :D

turbotalon1g 11-13-2010 04:14 PM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
^At 4 pm? lol

The wheel do look good like you said. I wish I could fit some good size rubber on the auto.
Get that boost control via link working and you should be golden.

GG_9_SE 11-13-2010 06:12 PM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
^been drinkin since 12:30 its snowin nothin better to do :D

ovaboost 11-13-2010 08:17 PM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
you might have to mod your intercooler pipe that goes from the fmic to your intake with the auto trans by the fact that is bigger i had to have my piping custom made

DSM1G 11-14-2010 09:57 AM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 365950)
^Your car is $3800, all he needs is a trans. he got all the swap stuff for $200.

I'd say why don't you part your car, and don't jack other peoples threads, esp. project threads.

Carl, get some pics up of the shell. I want to see what it looks like with the new wheels.

Actually no I lowered the price down to $2500. I was just making a friendly suggestion. So sorry for "jacking" the thread

turbotalon1g 11-14-2010 10:38 AM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
^My bad. We were talking about your car for a while, sadly us like everyone else is out of cash.

I'd say part it out if you are going to go that low on the price, there are people nationally that will scoop up that trans and you could easily get your $3800 from a partout.

Carl you will need to put a bigger cooler on that list and I would recommend a temp gauge.

Ovaboost is right, I was looking at GH's IC piping and realized it would hit the solenoids for the AT trans if i was to use it.

turbotalon1g 11-14-2010 11:25 AM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
Carl, i found out that you can use your old starter.

carltalon 11-14-2010 11:32 AM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
Yea definitly getting a bigger cooler and temp gauge Just forgot to put them on the list. Hopefully my IC piping will clear but if it needs to modifyed it wount be a problem. Heres a pic of what Im runnign now let me know if you think it will clear.
http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/...r/DSC01890.jpg
http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/...r/DSC01887.jpg

carltalon 11-14-2010 11:34 AM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 365990)
Carl, i found out that you can use your old starter.

My old starter is modified to work withg a AWD flywheel in FWD tranny so it wount work.

Halon 11-14-2010 12:03 PM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
Sweeeet! I'm totally jealous, this is the exact drag setup/build I'd like to do some day! Can't wait to see what you do with it!!!

turbotalon1g 11-14-2010 12:13 PM

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^x2.

it looks good, but I'd need a pic from the side between teh trans and piping to tell, I should just take a drive up.

carltalon 11-14-2010 02:09 PM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Halon (Post 365995)
Sweeeet! I'm totally jealous, this is the exact drag setup/build I'd like to do some day! Can't wait to see what you do with it!!!

Thanks I cant wait to see how it runs with no shifting issues. I havent desided if I want to just gut the car the rest of the way or keep it somewhat streetable is around 2500 pounds right now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 365996)
^x2.

it looks good, but I'd need a pic from the side between teh trans and piping to tell, I should just take a drive up.

any time you want to come bring those parts or lend a hand. It'll be hard to tell clearance right now with no trans in the car

Halon 11-14-2010 04:06 PM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
Shoot me a call or something too if you ever need a hand too man. Like I said this is totally the build I want to do someday for an all drag setup. So it'd be a blast to lend a hand if you need.

612 384-1425

Good luck with it!!

turbotalon1g 11-14-2010 04:18 PM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
Lend a hand? for sure, you have my info just let me know when, plus Bman is on teh way we can carpool if necessary.

carltalon 11-14-2010 04:23 PM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
I'll probly need a hand when it comes time to bolt the trans in the auto is alot heavier then the 5-speed.

ovaboost 11-17-2010 08:02 PM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
it might clear i guess only one way to find out lol

twack 11-17-2010 08:51 PM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
its the wimpy way out, but the 8 million times i pulled out my awd auto trans i used a cherry picker. made my life simple

ovaboost 11-17-2010 09:06 PM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
thats the way i pulled my trans there heavy compared to the 5speed. I usually just pull the motor with trans it makes it easier for me

turbotalon1g 11-17-2010 09:35 PM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carltalon (Post 366009)
I'll probly need a hand when it comes time to bolt the trans in the auto is alot heavier then the 5-speed.

Let me know, I have a tranny jack. After doing 10+ in just my last car alone, i figured it was time and boy is it easier with this.

Also you are right, that AT trans is a lot heavier than the 5 spd, at least enough where I'm not even gonna try to do it again and I know my brother can't just throw them in like he does with the 5 spds.

Halon 11-17-2010 09:42 PM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carltalon (Post 366009)
I'll probly need a hand when it comes time to bolt the trans in the auto is alot heavier then the 5-speed.

For sure gimme a shout, and maybe brown-ski too. Us Blainian's are usually down to lend a hand.

carltalon 11-18-2010 05:26 PM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
It will still be a while before the tranny goes in. I'll need to restall my converter before that happens. I'm planning on starting on the wireing harness this weekend. I neet to ad in the plugs for the TCu and tranny. I'm also thinking about doing a little wire tuck while Im in there. Does amyone have any tips on pulling the harness? I've never done it before.

Troy Rossberg 11-18-2010 07:11 PM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
I see your from Big Lake too, I got a 98 eclipse GST Automatic. What made you decide to switch to Auto?

turbotalon1g 11-19-2010 07:18 AM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
12.23@128 (bad guess from memory)

Destroying tires and trans a lot.

carltalon 04-27-2011 05:52 PM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
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A little update.

I've made alot of progress since my last update. The auto trans is all bolted up.I just need a few more things to button everything up. I desided to go a little different route then I originaly planned. I bought Goodharts Nitrous kit and will be using it to stall up on the stock converter. I also ditched the idea of using a reprogramed TCU for the Kiggly manumatic mod. The Manumatic mod eliminates the need for a TCU or shift box. You simply put the shifter in the gear you want and the trans shifts a full line pressure . I will probly go with a ratchet shifter whern I havesome extra money.

All I have left to do is:
1. Install the nitrous kit.
2. Put the center counsil and drivers seat in
3. Install trans cooler/ reinstall radiator
4. Put upper intercooler pipe back on ( from the looks of it it will just clear the trans)
5. Wire a few things. power to trans(kiggly mod), nitrous controled by DSMlink

Pic of kiggly manumatic mod attached.

turbotalon1g 04-27-2011 08:03 PM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
Are you kidding me?

You always make it sound like you have a shit ton of stuff to do.
Fuckin' sunday we are meeting up and cruising in your car. (mine not be ready, ahahahahaha)

Seriously, get that shit running or I'm taking that TCU.

Halon 04-27-2011 08:44 PM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
Nice! I love your setup, you're building the drag car I wish I had the time, money, and space for...

carltalon 04-27-2011 10:32 PM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 381696)
Are you kidding me?

You always make it sound like you have a shit ton of stuff to do.
Fuckin' sunday we are meeting up and cruising in your car. (mine not be ready, ahahahahaha)

Seriously, get that shit running or I'm taking that TCU.

I told you it will probly be up and running this weekend. probly wount have mutch time on saturday but hopefully sunday.

carltalon 05-01-2011 01:52 AM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
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2:00 AM progress update. I got alot done today. I got almost all the wireing except for the nitrous buttoned up. I got the cooler installed and plumbed, and Radiator back in. Got all the interior back in (even got my cigarette lighter working for laptop charging etc.) And I got the nitrous bottle mounted and line run to engine bay. Not mutch left to do till its driveable.

Pushit2.0 05-01-2011 05:13 PM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
With the pick up tube in the nitrous bottle you are going to want to angle the outlet to the back, not the front. Looking good.

~John

carltalon 05-07-2011 10:48 AM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
I got the car running this morning. It runs good and the transmission seams to work so far( I only backed it down the driveway and drove it back up) . I need to top off the fluid in the trans now that is run to fill the converter and cooler, get a new battery, and get some E85 in the tank and I'll do some real testing. hopefully I'll have more updates later today.

Halon 05-07-2011 11:10 AM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
SWEET!!!

goodhart 05-11-2011 12:29 PM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
Anymore progress? Wed night drags at BIR on teh 18th. :)

carltalon 05-11-2011 05:26 PM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
Not a lot to update. I got the new battery in today. I need to pick up some new fuel. Hopefully that will make it idle and run better because it likes to kill when I shift into gear and has a studder when I free rev it. hopefully some new fuel and some tuning will get rid of that.

carltalon 05-13-2011 02:10 PM

Re: Project: Auto FWD
 
I took the car for a test ride today and by the first impressions I am very happy. it shifts good using the kiggly manual mod. I did a few 20MPH to 100 MPH pulls going through 3 gears. once the turbo spoools the car pulls like crazy. Spins through first shifts into 2nd very fast and hard. Little to no wheel spin in 2nd. 2nd gear feels like it only lasts a second or 2. Shifts hard into 3rd. At this point I finally looked at the speedo as it goes past 80 MPH stayed in it a little in 3rd then let off.

Next step will be to get the nitrous working so I can stall up the stock converter and make some power before the turbo spools.

Next time I take the car out I'll try to get a video of the tack and speedo while I do some pulls and try to get a data log. My laptop was fighting me this morning so I said screw it.


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