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sleepydsm 04-07-2010 02:32 AM

Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
Hey guys I'm looking at getting some 17" (ideally 8" wide, run a 245!) Rotas. I have Ksport coilovers currently. I am looking for black wheels, but if not available I pay to have them powdercoated.

I am liking the Rota Boost and Grids (TE37 knockoffs).

GRIDS I see only 17x7.5 with 45mm or 48 mm offset. Is that too much? Like, it would be way behind my fender lip?

Boost I see
17x8 35mm or 48mm. Is the 35mm gonna stick out A LOT?
17x7.5 45mm

1. What offset above will work best?
2. I shouldn't have tire issues with 17x8 with a 245 since I have coilovers right? maybe a little clearancing on the rear lower control arms.
3. If you can think of a cool wheel please suggest it!! aka blk rpfo1?

THANKS!!!!

LingLing 04-07-2010 08:57 AM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
I've been doing some wheel/tire/suspension research myself and came across this guy on talk. 17x9 +45 on 255/40/17. On the rear he's running spacers to bump the offset to +37. He's running spacers up front too, but it doesn't say the size. I think that's about the perfect fitment.


FYI, he's on GC coilovers and Koni Yellows.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1181/...0609e8f8_o.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1414/...81d678f8_o.jpg

Goat Blower 04-07-2010 09:48 AM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
That car was the inspiration for me going to 17x9's as well. My backs fit perfect with a 28mm offset and shortened lower control arms, my fronts stick out quite a bit. I need to figure that one out this spring.

GsXtUrBo98 04-07-2010 12:18 PM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
Kevin, come over and look at my car with the 17 by 8 rota torques and they have a +35 offset

Speedfreak 04-07-2010 01:04 PM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
Keep this thread updated as good info is found please :). I've been considering a bump up in size(width mostly) as well and would like to see what sizes/offsets/spacer combo's etc are best for a 1g awd.

sleepydsm 04-07-2010 07:43 PM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
I personally do not want to run a spacer, but I guess if needed... :( boo hiss.

Chris, lets borrow one wheel (or two) and just check fitment on my car while the tranny is out!

sleepydsm 04-07-2010 07:47 PM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
Anyone got better wheel suggestions. I'd like a relatively cheaper wheel as the roads here do suck a lot.

4g63tcrazy 04-07-2010 10:24 PM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
How about you buy mine?

sleepydsm 04-07-2010 10:45 PM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 4g63tcrazy (Post 333350)
How about you buy mine?

Huh? Those mesh ones?

4g63tcrazy 04-07-2010 10:59 PM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
Mesh? I'm talking about these n00b. :)

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d.../zzhdredit.jpg

turboimports 04-07-2010 11:15 PM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
I have 17x8, +35 offset on mine. I had it on my 1G and my 2G. 235/45-17.

Too bad when you came over the vehicle was on jacks, otherwise it would've been a perfect example.

GsXtUrBo98 04-07-2010 11:22 PM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by turboimports (Post 333363)
I have 17x8, +35 offset on mine. I had it on my 1G and my 2G. 235/45-17.

Too bad when you came over the vehicle was on jacks, otherwise it would've been a perfect example.

Did you have rubbing problems with the P235/45R17's? I have the same size but they are very bald.. So with new tread I was thinking that they might be a problem.. I was gonna go P235/40R17's to be safe. I will go with the 235/45R17's if you didnt have any problems with it.

GsXtUrBo98 04-07-2010 11:23 PM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepydsm (Post 333331)
Chris, lets borrow one wheel (or two) and just check fitment on my car while the tranny is out!

I would be willing to do this Kevin.

sleepydsm 04-08-2010 12:33 AM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GsXtUrBo98 (Post 333367)
I would be willing to do this Kevin.


I love you

At-Least-It's-An-Evo 04-08-2010 12:34 AM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
There are new 17x9 and 17x9.5 Rota Grids. You should check 'em out. They look greattt....

Kevin 1G Drummer 04-08-2010 12:40 AM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
I ran a 235/45/17 on a 17x8 +35mm on my DSM and I thought it looked really good. the rears were tucked in just a little, and the fronts stuck out about a half inch. With about a 5mm spacer the rears would have sat flush. No need to clearance the rear control arm either. My winter wheels are 1st gen 3/s VR4 wheels, and with those I needed to grind a little bit off the flange of the rear control arm since they're +40mm offset. Same size tires as the summers, and the fronts sat flush with the top edge of the fender.

Speedfreak 04-08-2010 12:49 PM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
I've been running 235/40-17's for years on my Rota Sub Zero's(I think 7.5 wide?), no issues. But I'd like to step the wheel width to 8.5 or 9" and do 255's. If there is any good info about something like this, any links would be great.

Halon 04-08-2010 01:15 PM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
I'm running 235-45-17's on 17x8 Rotas with 35mm offset. My car is also lowered on Eibach Sportlines. I'm having a problem with the fronts rubbin my fenders. Plenty of people on here have seen the damage to my tires. I need to roll my fenders, and I think that will help take care of that issue.

GsXtUrBo98 04-08-2010 01:33 PM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
I could do this today kevin but I'm busy at 7

4g63tcrazy 04-08-2010 04:38 PM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Halon (Post 333485)
I'm running 235-45-17's on 17x8 Rotas with 35mm offset. My car is also lowered on Eibach Sportlines. I'm having a problem with the fronts rubbin my fenders. Plenty of people on here have seen the damage to my tires. I need to roll my fenders, and I think that will help take care of that issue.

Yeah I saw your tires. All you need is a wooden baseball bat and massage the fender outwards. I would have done it asap before it did anymore damage though!

Halon 04-08-2010 05:43 PM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
I have new tires in the garage anyhow :)

Wolf0573 04-12-2010 11:09 PM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
I am running 17x8 inch rims with a +42mm offset, 245/40-17 tires, and KYB AGXs.

I've had that size tire on the car for a few hundred miles and have had no rubbing issues with a 2inch drop. I definitely prefer this size over the 235/45-17s I had before.

An 8 inch rim with a +48 offset will not clear the rear trailing arms without spacers. You might get away with it up front with your coilovers. It will limit your turning radius though. My car just barely starts to rub on the inside of the fender well if I turn the wheel all the way.

A +35mm offset would stick out way to far in my opinion. It may also rub on the fenders depending on how you're suspension is set up.

Here is a pic of mine that kind of shows how the tires sit in relation to the fenders. You can kind of see the front tires stick out just a bit. This is with no negative chamber up front too.

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/x...12010023-1.jpg

Wolf0573 04-13-2010 12:05 AM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
This pic shows the front better...

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/x...l112010027.jpg

Just a side shot...

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/x...12010041-2.jpg

turbotalon1g 04-13-2010 12:07 AM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
Those look great, the fronts stick out the right amount IMO.

You are missing a headlight in that pic, btw.

Great looking car.

sleepydsm 04-13-2010 01:37 AM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
Thats the kind of info I have been looking for!

THANKS WOLF!!

So on a 1st gen what exactly needs to be clearanced in the rear on the control arm

I'm looking for a 40/42 offset, 245 tires, 17" for some lame big brakes.

Now just gotta find the right wheels...

sleepydsm 04-13-2010 02:09 AM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
http://www.tirerack.com/images/wheel...mblk_ci3_l.jpg
http://www.tirerack.com/images/wheel...7_Ti_ci3_l.jpg
http://www.tirerack.com/images/wheel...mblk_ci3_l.jpg
http://www.tirerack.com/images/wheel...f1_b_ci3_l.jpg
http://www.tirerack.com/images/wheel...2_lg_ci3_l.jpg

Opinions?

sleepydsm 04-13-2010 02:15 AM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
I honestly kinda like the first ones above the best. Chrono HT by OZ

At-Least-It's-An-Evo 04-13-2010 07:35 AM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
for a 1g, my opinion is...
first I'd get the:

the Enkei RPF whatevers
the TE37's
the last ones,
then the OZ racing ones...

CornFed2.4 04-13-2010 07:39 AM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
Second from the last rpf's maybe ? Those things are dope!
The rotas on the bottom are sweet too

At-Least-It's-An-Evo 04-13-2010 08:26 AM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
These Konig Countersteer R's (TE37 copies) are pretty cool, and they'r eon sale in the 16x7 +25 offset. they'd be cool if you don't want to go with bigger than a 225 or 235 on there.

http://jlbmotorsports.com/specials/c...6x7_gblp_m.gif

Wolf0573 04-13-2010 08:57 AM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepydsm (Post 334336)
Thats the kind of info I have been looking for!

THANKS WOLF!!

So on a 1st gen what exactly needs to be clearanced in the rear on the control arm

I'm looking for a 40/42 offset, 245 tires, 17" for some lame big brakes.

Now just gotta find the right wheels...

No problem man! I know I searched all over before I bought tires this spring and couldn't find any real solid info on fitment. So, glad to help.:)

For clearancing the rear... The inside edge of the lip of the rim is what gets close. Some people grind down the flange on the trailing arm. Unless you want to run wider than an 8" rim, I don't see the point of bringing the rear rims in further. I'll see if I can get a pic of that inside edge on mine later today.

RPFs are hawt!

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 334321)
Those look great, the fronts stick out the right amount IMO.

You are missing a headlight in that pic, btw.

Great looking car.

Thanks Aaron! The car is slowly but surely coming along.:D

As for the missing headlight, I was told that's how you go fast. I wanna go fast!:drive1:

turbotalon1g 04-13-2010 09:18 AM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
I'd say the first or the last everything else wouldn't look right or look like too many other cars.

Wolf, I'm taking out all my lights in the front then!! I have 2 LED worklights I can tape to the dash.

sleepydsm 04-13-2010 10:20 AM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
I actually would like a Rota, because they are cheap and if they get f-ed up on our shitty roads it won't be a huge PITA to replace one, or an arm and a leg. Just an arm is OK. Rota only offers most of the wheels I want in a +35, or +48 offset. Boo.

The OZ's are 17x8+40

goodhart 04-13-2010 11:07 AM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
I say the TE37's or the 3rd set down, those OZ's don't look too bad either.

4g63tcrazy 04-13-2010 12:01 PM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
I like the volks and the rpf1's. Both VERY expensive though.

At-Least-It's-An-Evo 04-13-2010 12:06 PM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 4g63tcrazy (Post 334386)
I like the volks and the rpf1's. Both VERY expensive though.

The RPF1's aren't that expensive(in 17s, prolly under $1k for a set if you buy from the right vendor). The TE37s are though... $500-750 a piece).


Kevin, get like a 17x8 +35 offset. That would work nicely... trust me.

4g63tcrazy 04-13-2010 01:47 PM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
Anything around 1k is very expensive to me. Haha

Speedfreak 04-13-2010 04:20 PM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
Ideally I want bronze TE37's 17x8 or wider, but don't want to drop the coin on them. If I could get Rota Grid's in bronze in 17x8 or wider in a +40 offset I think I'd be done. I just want 255's all around. I'm not that keen on doing the 17x7.5 +35, then doing a 5mm spacer, and doing 255's on the 7.5 width.

Wolf0573 04-13-2010 05:51 PM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepydsm (Post 334370)
I actually would like a Rota, because they are cheap and if they get f-ed up on our shitty roads it won't be a huge PITA to replace one, or an arm and a leg. Just an arm is OK. Rota only offers most of the wheels I want in a +35, or +48 offset. Boo.

The OZ's are 17x8+40

I actually think the 5 spoke OZ would look pretty siik on your car.

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 334350)
Wolf, I'm taking out all my lights in the front then!! I have 2 LED worklights I can tape to the dash.

Dude, I just hang glow sticks from the rear view and blast the techno yo!

sleepydsm 04-13-2010 06:21 PM

Re: Thinking about Rotas - Offset Suggestion?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolf0573 (Post 334426)
I actually think the 5 spoke OZ would look pretty siik on your car.

They are growing on me. I should have bough Steve Hill's Volks!

I'll see if I can get Chris Johnson to let me try on his 17x8 +35s. I think id prefer the more flush look.


Mo, can you fit 255s on a 17x8 +40 without issue on a 1g?


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