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C3L1CA 02-01-2010 08:12 PM

Slicks and Tire Sizes
 
I've been thinking of picking up a set of track tires and wheels.I pretty much have my mind set on the Rota Slipstreams for the wheels, but don't really know what do get for slicks. Which leads me to the next couple questions.

I was looking at some gear calculators to try help me figure out what size tires would be ideal. I used this website, http://locost7.info/gearcalc.php as the gear calculator and http://www.vfaq.com/mods/Trannies.html for the ratios. The car is a 2g manual awd so I was using 4.929 as the final drive and evo/gvr4 ratios for first through fourth gear, as that is what I have.
Do those number they provide seem right?

Going off those numbers and my goal is to trap 150, a 26" tire seems to be the way to go. Right? If those numbers are right and I'll probably try and keep my stock motor together for a few more track trips, I'd hate to rev this thing out much past 8k if I don't have to.

Also does anybody have any good experience with a certain slick, or cheater slick?

I know M&H does a bad ass thing where when you order 4 slicks they go around the warehouse and pick 4 slicks that as close to eachother as they can get. Shane has a set of 24.5 on slip streams and they seem like a nice tire and are very light weight. Does anybody have any experience with the M&H racemaster or the M&H cheater slick?

It also seems like a lot of the dsm guys run the Hoosier quick time pros. I kind of like the QTP as I've seen a lot of threads about them, and people seem to have decent luck with them. Anybody have any experience with any Hoosier tire at all?

So if anybody has any experience with slicks or some "cheater" dot slicks or good threads that I can read up on, please post up.

Thanks in advance!

Shane@DBPerformance 02-02-2010 10:27 AM

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The main reason guys used the Hoosier Quick Time Pros were because they are DOT as to stay in class rules for import drag race series. If you aren't rule limited to a DOT tire then get a real slick.

C3L1CA 02-02-2010 10:38 AM

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That makes sense.

Shane, do you think the 26" would be too tall for what I want my car to do?

tpunx99GSX 02-02-2010 10:52 AM

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Are Rota Slipstreams good wheels? I have a set on my talon but never really heard of them before?

Shane@DBPerformance 02-02-2010 10:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by C3L1CA (Post 322526)
That makes sense.

Shane, do you think the 26" would be too tall for what I want my car to do?

Go for it.

Shane@DBPerformance 02-02-2010 11:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX (Post 322530)
Are Rota Slipstreams good wheels? I have a set on my talon but never really heard of them before?

They are a very light but inexpensive wheel. Not the best things ever, but not bad for drag racing and normal driving. You could do better for road racing where you want a strong wheel that will take a lot of heat. Shep ran them on his car.

tpunx99GSX 02-02-2010 11:08 AM

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thanks for the info, nice to know.

santa 02-02-2010 11:19 AM

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Do not get a slick with a tube in it. You will hate hate hate it lol. Find tubeless slicks!! lol.

96GST16g 02-02-2010 12:11 PM

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i have hoosier slicks on my gocart.....

1QUICK4 02-02-2010 12:18 PM

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I ran M&H's on my old FWD and loved 'em.

C3L1CA 02-02-2010 12:44 PM

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M&H's seem pretty popular, going to start saving my pennies now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by santa (Post 322537)
Do not get a slick with a tube in it. You will hate hate hate it lol. Find tubeless slicks!! lol.

Why do you not want a slick with a tube? Don't hook as well?

santa 02-03-2010 02:15 AM

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slick with tubes and high hp = ditch on the street lol.

Shane@DBPerformance 02-03-2010 10:33 AM

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Why would you drive with slicks on the street?

tpunx99GSX 02-03-2010 10:36 AM

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yeah ecoli is right, slicks on street is ditch. Better be damn sure its not going to rain or even sprinkle, and sure no one has their sprinklers on.

C3L1CA 02-03-2010 10:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by santa (Post 322633)
slick with tubes and high hp = ditch on the street lol.

I gotcha, I'd have to make power first :lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecoli (Post 322667)
Why would you drive with slicks on the street?

To go ricering. I'd would think about rocking the qtp's on the street once or twice if I got some, but I don't think I'd drive on staight slicks.

santa 02-03-2010 10:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ecoli (Post 322667)
Why would you drive with slicks on the street?

Its what all the big dogs do these days lol. thats why I've got snow tires on in the summer lol!!!

tpunx99GSX 02-03-2010 10:54 AM

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I would look at the regular quick time DOT tires, or the Mickey Thompsons they seem to have pretty good tread on them for da streetz

Swifty1638 02-03-2010 10:56 AM

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Slicks are hard, because they have a wrinkle wall effect. You drive in a straight line, and the car sways back n forth, take an off ramp and you better be going no faster then 30..the tire will just fold over on it'self. I remember nate in his civic complain about it once, and they where not even full slicks if I remember correctly.

tpunx99GSX 02-03-2010 10:58 AM

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Mickeys
http://www.jegs.com/p/Mickey-Thompso...53925/10002/-1
Hoosiers
http://www.jegs.com/p/Hoosier/Hoosie...46891/10002/-1

Or if your a real badass....
http://www.jegs.com/images/photos/50...2-18247C06.jpg

santa 02-03-2010 11:07 AM

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just get a good dr and call it good your awd you'll hook eventually lol.

C3L1CA 02-03-2010 11:09 AM

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These are pretty much going to be track only tires, MAYBE put them on for a night or two max to try and play with the big boys. So they are going to be track tires only.

I've got my sweet Fuzions on my gst wheels for mad traction on the street already:rollinglaugh:

santa 02-03-2010 11:12 AM

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hell yeah!! lol. The et streets are a really decent tire from my experience.

tpunx99GSX 02-03-2010 11:26 AM

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yeah in the summer i may look at a set of the mickey ETs for track use and pick up a set of BFG KDWs for street use.

C3L1CA 02-03-2010 12:15 PM

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I would still rather have a set of full slicks, over set of DR. I don't see the point to get a tire that only hooks kind of good over a tire that would hook a lot just because I could drive on the street with them. I'm also very far from ballin' and don't think I could afford to drive on DR all the time and have to keep replacing tires.

tpunx99GSX 02-03-2010 12:18 PM

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problem with hooking alot when you are making a shit load of power is the wear on the other parts, Transmission, Driveshafts, Differentials, transfer cases. Sometimes a little slippage can be a good thing.

Shane@DBPerformance 02-03-2010 12:21 PM

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DRs often cause more drivetrain breakage than slicks on AWD cars.

C3L1CA 02-03-2010 12:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ecoli (Post 322693)
DRs often cause more drivetrain breakage than slicks on AWD cars.

X2, Thats at least what I have heard.

CarPsyco84 02-03-2010 04:12 PM

Re: Slicks and Tire Sizes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ecoli (Post 322693)
DRs often cause more drivetrain breakage than slicks on AWD cars.

I'm guess this is from the skip skip boom effect?

Shane@DBPerformance 02-03-2010 04:14 PM

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Yes, and the driveline shock. The sidewalls of slicks will wrinkle and flex on the launch, while a DR won't flex much at all, so if you hook with a DR, the that initial shock can be hard on the driveline.

tpunx99GSX 02-03-2010 04:16 PM

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Good info to know.

Shane@DBPerformance 02-03-2010 04:18 PM

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Brad will probably start breaking shit though, since he hasn't hooked at all with his Walmart special or whatever tires he was running.

C3L1CA 02-03-2010 04:31 PM

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Shane just jinxed me. Time to stick to my fuzions :rollinglaugh:


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