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sleepydsm 11-27-2009 12:41 PM

Need an opinion on trannys
 
Pretend you were in the market for buying a modded DSM. Lets say it has 450awhp on a DynoD. If this car had a stock tranny that worked great, would that have an effect on you buying the car?

aaronspeed 11-27-2009 12:47 PM

Re: Need an opinion on trannys
 
Nope not at all. You can have that trans modified when the time comes for $1300 that will handle a lot more than that. if it shifts fine now don't worry about it till something happens.

goodhart 11-27-2009 02:01 PM

Re: Need an opinion on trannys
 
I would be a little skeptical, my car was making ~250 AWHP DD when my freshly rebuilt stock tranny completely granaded. The shitty thing about it was that it had maybe had 10-12 launches, none of which were even within 3 months before it took a poop on me. I was just doing normal driving making a 3-4 shift and it went BOOM. Next tranny I hope to buy will be a Shep/TRE/Jack's

turbotalon1g 11-27-2009 02:17 PM

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Hell no, I would just keep in mind that it would be something to upgrade, but a lot of people are making that much power or more on a stock trans, some refuse to pay that much to build it.

Goat Blower 11-27-2009 02:20 PM

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For that power level, you don't really need anything more than a good rebuild by Shep for around $1000, or you could splurge and get the 4-spider diff for added strength. If you can verify the current stock tranny is good as-is, there's no reason it can't handle that power already.

Matt D. 11-27-2009 02:46 PM

Re: Need an opinion on trannys
 
If it drove good I wouldn't think twice about it.

slowbubblecar 11-27-2009 03:13 PM

Re: Need an opinion on trannys
 
Depends. If my goals were to make 600+ hp out of the car I was buying, I would put more efforts in finding a car with a built tranny if I was buying. If I was looking to keep it around 450whp, I wouldn't care as much.

blageo23 11-27-2009 03:15 PM

Re: Need an opinion on trannys
 
Id say it depends on the price. If you want alot for a 1g and I was looking it better have a built tranny. But then again just because it has a built tranny doesnt mean it will last. right Kevin?

craig 11-27-2009 06:12 PM

Re: Need an opinion on trannys
 
I ran my old 1g stock tranny with 420awhp for a while then it grenaded.

sleepydsm 11-27-2009 08:41 PM

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Yeah my Shep stage 3 blew up...

sleepydsm 11-27-2009 08:42 PM

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I am considering just selling my car with a stock tranny, or even just a basic shep rebuild. Or if i keep it, a built tranny AGAIN haha.

awd-drifter 11-27-2009 08:50 PM

Re: Need an opinion on trannys
 
interesting. I'd probably not buy it because with that power, im sure the trans won't live to long. I'd say just get a rebuilt trans. I'd be more than happy with a stage 1 or 2 rebuilt.

Kevin 1G Drummer 11-28-2009 12:36 AM

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I'd say if you have someone willing to buy the car right now, and they don't mind it having a stock tranny, then go that rout. If you don't foresee anyone buying it any time soon, I'd just go with a basic shep rebuild with a 4spider.

Halon 11-28-2009 01:18 AM

Re: Need an opinion on trannys
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin 1G Drummer (Post 314706)
I'd just go with a basic shep rebuild with a 4spider.

+1 for that. Just a basic rebuild with a 4-spider.

turbotalon1g 11-28-2009 11:28 AM

Re: Need an opinion on trannys
 
^agreed.
How did you break a shep stg 3?
Hill is on a stg. 1, has been for a long time with over 500.

scheides 11-28-2009 12:26 PM

Re: Need an opinion on trannys
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by matt d. (Post 314679)
if it drove good i wouldn't think twice about it.

+1

slowbubblecar 11-28-2009 01:58 PM

Re: Need an opinion on trannys
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 314713)
^agreed.
How did you break a shep stg 3?
Hill is on a stg. 1, has been for a long time with over 500.

Maybe I am wrong, but I don't think Steve puts that many miles on his car anymore either.

goodhart 11-28-2009 02:04 PM

Re: Need an opinion on trannys
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slowbubblecar (Post 314721)
Maybe I am wrong, but I don't think Steve puts that many miles on his car anymore either.

Nor has it been pushed really hard from what I can tell.

jrohner 11-29-2009 12:58 AM

Re: Need an opinion on trannys
 
It comes down to how you drive, not just how much power you have. You could have 600hp and make a stock tranny last, or have 250 and grenade a built tranny. For a decent amount of drag racing, your example is probably starting to push your luck if you're going for good 60' times. IMO torque and how you launch are the two main transmission breakers, not hp so much.



Oh, for the actual question: A stock tranny vs built would have some impact. It wouldn't make or break the sale itself, but I'd probably be willing to pay a bit extra with a built up transmission; no where near what a built tranny would cost though.

TwoTalons 11-29-2009 08:44 AM

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Is Shepherd still building transmissions? His website hasn't been updated in over two years and www.sheptrans.com is a dead link.

jrohner 11-29-2009 09:27 AM

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What are you talking about? It works, and I think it was redone not all that long ago.

TwoTalons 11-29-2009 09:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jrohner (Post 314775)
What are you talking about? It works, and I think it was redone not all that long ago.

www.shepracing.com works for me but the last update was 7-7-07.

www.sheptrans.com does not work for me. Are you saying that's still a good link?

goodhart 11-29-2009 10:38 AM

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Works fine for me :D

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...dhart/shep.jpg

Matt D. 11-29-2009 10:47 AM

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Both sites work for me, shepracing.com has a link to sheptrans.com.

95talonracer 11-29-2009 10:49 AM

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I thought after I gave you a ride in my car you changed your mind about selling your car?

TwoTalons 11-29-2009 10:50 AM

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Well then maybe one of you internet wizards can explain to me why I get this:

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/krefly/shep.jpg

Matt D. 11-29-2009 12:35 PM

Re: Need an opinion on trannys
 
Reboot. Don't use Internet Explorer. ;)

Click Start
Click Run
Type in cmd and hit enter
Type in ipconfig /flushdns and hit enter
Try going to the site again

4seasons69 11-29-2009 04:10 PM

Re: Need an opinion on trannys
 
it wouldn't make or break the sale but I would probably be willing to pay a little more for one with a built tranny.

sheptrans.com works for me

TwoTalons 11-30-2009 01:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D. (Post 314790)
Reboot. Don't use Internet Explorer. ;)

Click Start
Click Run
Type in cmd and hit enter
Type in ipconfig /flushdns and hit enter
Try going to the site again

Tried all that except for the don't use IE part. Worked first time then stopped again. So I kept trying. Seems to work 1 in 10 tries. Got to poke around the site at least.

iroc_g 11-30-2009 02:25 PM

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I think it all depends on price. If your car has a stock tranny, it would be cheaper than with a rebuild. These days, the cheaper you can make things, the more they sell.

sleepydsm 11-30-2009 03:00 PM

Re: Need an opinion on trannys
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iroc_g (Post 314852)
I think it all depends on price. If your car has a stock tranny, it would be cheaper than with a rebuild. These days, the cheaper you can make things, the more they sell.

That is my thought exactly. I think the car would sell FASTER if I had a stock, but GOOD (lets say a fresh shep stage 1) and overall price of the car could be less. If it has a built tranny, and a twin disk, I'd want a lot more lol. But then some people dont comprehend why the price is significantly increased (by about 30-50% of what the new stuff cost). And people aren't buying stuff anymore.


What Kerry said. I was reinspired by riding in your Spyder to keep my car, but eh. I might have a new project lined up today haha

In terms of blowing up my tranny: I No Lift to shift, launch this thing, anti-lagged it, race from digs, etc. I actually race/use/drive my car and have a lot of fun doing it.

goodhart 11-30-2009 03:03 PM

Re: Need an opinion on trannys
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepydsm (Post 314854)

I might have a new project lined up today haha

In terms of blowing up my tranny: I No Lift to shift, launch this thing, anti-lagged it, race from digs, etc. I actually race/use/drive my car and have a lot of fun doing it.

Whats the plan for new project?

also, what is the difference between anti-lag and NLTS ?

I guess I thought it was the same thing...

sleepydsm 11-30-2009 03:42 PM

Re: Need an opinion on trannys
 
Anti lag on ECMLink retard the ignition timing a bunch to spool the turbo on the line when launching it. It sounds like your engine is falling apart. I like it haha. But my car was actually slower with it on...

sleepydsm 11-30-2009 03:44 PM

Re: Need an opinion on trannys
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 314856)
Whats the plan for new project?

Some kind of a frankenstein. Might need some help from "Bill Hincher" muahahaha

goodhart 11-30-2009 03:56 PM

Re: Need an opinion on trannys
 
you're not even gonna tell us what kinda car you have in mind?

blageo23 11-30-2009 04:05 PM

Re: Need an opinion on trannys
 
I wouldnt tell anyone either. Id be too ashamed of myself to even post it :P. I say get the shep stage 4 and have some fun. Who cares about resale. Its all about how much fun you'll have before you sell it. Stock tranny probably couldnt handle NLTS and awd launches alot even a shep rebuild.

goodhart 11-30-2009 04:12 PM

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^^that bad huh? :lol:

sleepydsm 11-30-2009 11:53 PM

Re: Need an opinion on trannys
 
I just got some gay rust free POS 240sx.

Back on topic. I'll wait closer to spring to worry about this. Thanks all. It will either get a shep1, or a shep4 lol.

mike55112 12-01-2009 03:50 PM

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I knew joe would sell that thing.

sleepydsm 12-02-2009 12:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mike55112 (Post 314952)
I knew joe would sell that thing.

yeah we all did.


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