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cmspaz 11-25-2009 11:41 PM

The Spazmobile
 
Well, under pressure from Scheides, I'm going to post a build thread. I probably should've had one a while back, but it's whatever. I guess that means I need to go over history a bit.

Bought the car on April 19th, 2008. 156k on the clock, completely stock. The reason for purchase was for autox and a better DD.

See: ugly wheels, boring and stock.
http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-...16038_2528.jpg

I ended up blowing up the stock T25 in Fall '08, and replaced it with a small 16G. I have no pics of this or the install. Later on, my stock BCS seized (or something), and I picked up an MBC. Again, no pics.

The car then stayed this way for a while, until a piece of asphalt jumped out in front of me and destroyed one of my wheels. This caused me to get these:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3513/...dc7522fe97.jpg

Then came the drop, on Asshanson's old Tokico Blues with Red lowering springs:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2509/...a6cc73c375.jpg

And now, as of last week, I have an FMIC, which is the real reason for the posting of this thread. Nothing special, and it's not huge, but it does the job and fits the bumper quite well:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2719/...2a4fa638ec.jpg

Piping is routed as it is due to my j-pipe pointing toward the passenger side, I'll be picking one up that faces the driver's side and re-routing it soon:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2494/...536c88cd93.jpg

And along with the piping, I also got a Greddy RS BOV, probably a little overkill for my application, but it sounds... interesting, and god knows I'm an attention whore:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2706/...8d37a71d22.jpg

And that's where things stand today.

scheides 11-25-2009 11:49 PM

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Nice work spazzy! Can't wait to see some more boost and some numbers out of this thing!

You're on your way to a well-setup 2G :D

goodhart 11-26-2009 12:20 AM

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Coming along nicely considering your budget !! All ya need now is some cams, maybe some 264's or a 264/272 combo. I think that would work pretty good with this setup you have so far.

How's that strut tower rust? get that fixed?

s1ngletracker 11-26-2009 12:22 AM

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Hows the crank play lookin'? :)

awd-drifter 11-26-2009 01:11 AM

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looks good man. what's your next mod? I know how things are going with a tight budget.

Halon 11-26-2009 01:56 AM

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Lookin good! I hope your next mod is a nice set of jumper cables ;)

mdost03 11-26-2009 02:24 AM

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That's an interesting piping setup you have there haha. Finally getting some mods on there I see.

asshanson 11-26-2009 03:03 AM

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I loved the Tokicos for looks, hope they do well for you in Autocross.

FattyBoomBatty 11-26-2009 08:33 AM

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Yeah, the car does look awesome driving down the road.

Kracka 11-26-2009 09:12 AM

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Going to reroute that BOV back into the intake?

cmspaz 11-26-2009 10:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 314543)
Coming along nicely considering your budget !! All ya need now is some cams, maybe some 264's or a 264/272 combo. I think that would work pretty good with this setup you have so far.

How's that strut tower rust? get that fixed?

Rust is taken care of, thanks to Mark.

Quote:

Originally Posted by s1ngletracker (Post 314544)
Hows the crank play lookin'? :)

LOL. If it walks it walks and I get a 6-bolt, if not, that's fine too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by awd-drifter (Post 314547)
looks good man. what's your next mod? I know how things are going with a tight budget.

Next mod is getting an exhaust on there finally.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halon (Post 314552)
Lookin good! I hope your next mod is a nice set of jumper cables ;)

I actually have a quality set now!

Quote:

Originally Posted by totaleclipse_05 (Post 314553)
That's an interesting piping setup you have there haha. Finally getting some mods on there I see.

Tell me about it. The lacking throttle response with the long route leaves a bit to be desired, but overall I'm happy with it. I'll get a new j-pipe and reroute it sometime soon.

Quote:

Originally Posted by asshanson (Post 314557)
I loved the Tokicos for looks, hope they do well for you in Autocross.

They seem to transfer weight and plant the tires very well compared to stock on the street, so I'm hoping they can do the same at lower speeds in a more technical setting. The real test is going to be Marshalltown next season, I'm hoping to finally be able to beat Matt's Civic. :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 314565)
Going to reroute that BOV back into the intake?

Yep. The car's running fine vented, but I'll only run it like that until the recirc fitting for the BOV arrives.

TkrPerformance 11-26-2009 10:39 AM

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dont forget about the 2 days it was in my garage.
suspention swap
both front wheel bearings
left tie rod end
right lower ball joint
right tower rust fixed
right side axel

cmspaz 11-26-2009 11:50 AM

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And all of it 2 days before the cruise.

That was NOT fun. Though I did get to beat shit with a mallet, which felt pretty good.

turbotalon1g 11-26-2009 12:40 PM

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Wow, i'm surprised.
It does look nice, that drop is perfect.

craig 11-26-2009 02:55 PM

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looking good still slower than a mini though....

twack 11-26-2009 03:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmspaz (Post 314578)
Tell me about it. The lacking throttle response with the long route leaves a bit to be desired, but overall I'm happy with it. I'll get a new j-pipe and reroute it sometime soon.

You might want to look into boost leaks or tunning. they did a long debate where they did all the math on the long route and with all the extra piping and it was only a fraction of a tenth of a second. nothing that could actually be felt. I have longer piping and a much larger FMIC then you and i dont have any problems with throttle response.
Glad to see the build though. Lets see bay and interior pics

FattyBoomBatty 11-27-2009 07:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by twack (Post 314610)
You might want to look into boost leaks or tunning. they did a long debate where they did all the math on the long route and with all the extra piping and it was only a fraction of a tenth of a second. nothing that could actually be felt. I have longer piping and a much larger FMIC then you and i dont have any problems with throttle response.
Glad to see the build though. Lets see bay and interior pics

Yeah, I agree with this. All I could do was laugh when a friend of mine, trying to get his g60 corrado to work, said that you needed some exact length of vacuum tube to make something work right. If it wasn't 3" or whatever, it would read wrong. The time it takes for a volume like that to become pressurized is so minuscule that you'd never notice.

Anyway, how could throttle response get worse with more air volume in the pipes unless the tune is goofy?

cmspaz 11-27-2009 07:30 AM

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Well, it is on the stock map still...

123abc 11-27-2009 08:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmspaz (Post 314652)
Well, it is on the stock map still...

Along with a lot of others on a fmic. Have you done a boost leak test on it?

sleepydsm 11-27-2009 10:12 AM

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Primo has fixed 2g strut tower rust before, btw.

goodhart 11-27-2009 12:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepydsm (Post 314657)
Primo has fixed 2g strut tower rust before, btw.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmspaz (Post 314578)
Rust is taken care of, thanks to Mark.

you fail lol

cmspaz 11-27-2009 05:20 PM

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^ LOL.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the slow boosting is partially due to an exhaust leak I can't seem to get rid of. One of the bolts from the o2 housing to the turbo keeps backing out, I'll get that taken care of again this weekend and see how much that helps.

It's not so much that response is actually decreased, but audibly it takes longer for the piping to fully charge, I'm not really spooling any later. I haven't done an official leak test, but all the ones we heard during testing we fixed, so if it's a leak, it's relatively minor.

s1ngletracker 12-01-2009 02:20 AM

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O2 housing being loose shouldn't really cause slow boosting.

rose0529 12-01-2009 07:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by craig (Post 314608)
looking good still slower than a mini though....

LOL.... i need to get modding ours...

FattyBoomBatty 12-01-2009 08:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by s1ngletracker (Post 314926)
O2 housing being loose shouldn't really cause slow boosting.

Eh, if it's anything like my car, when the down pipe came loose (not off) it wouldn't spool as fast and didn't make much boost. At first I started cranking the boost controller up, but it did nothing.

redleader36 12-01-2009 08:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmspaz (Post 314578)
The real test is going to be Marshalltown next season, I'm hoping to finally be able to beat Matt's Civic. :D

Just remember, I got new tires and new suspension too! :P

Anyway, looking good!

s1ngletracker 12-02-2009 02:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FattyBoomBatty (Post 314983)
Eh, if it's anything like my car, when the down pipe came loose (not off) it wouldn't spool as fast and didn't make much boost. At first I started cranking the boost controller up, but it did nothing.

I suppose it could create a lot of exhaust turbulance which would hurt performance... but I sorta doubt it. More likely it is causing the knock sensor to register knock and pull timing...

cmspaz 12-03-2009 11:40 AM

Re: The Spazmobile
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by s1ngletracker (Post 314926)
O2 housing being loose shouldn't really cause slow boosting.

You know what? I think you're right.

But I have another question now... how the fuck does this even happen?

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...z/IMG_8098.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...z/IMG_8104.jpg

The bolt was fine when I put the heat shield on after the o2 housing came loose a few months back...

Anyway, vice grips are a no-go, was trying for 10 minutes, wouldn't budge, is my only option at this point dropping the turbo? I have spare studs, I just need to get this fucker out.

A//// Guy 12-03-2009 11:48 AM

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Damn that sucks. Id get rid of those studs anyway and go only bolts. Alot easier to deal with.

The car is shaping up though!

C3L1CA 12-03-2009 12:00 PM

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Car looks nice dude, keep up the good work.

twack 12-03-2009 12:02 PM

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depeding on how much wiggle rom you have. you could remove the turbo band, the 3 other mani bolts, and the exhaust and just remove the hotside of the turbo. that way you can try and leave the lines

cmspaz 12-03-2009 12:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by A//// Guy (Post 315200)
Damn that sucks. Id get rid of those studs anyway and go only bolts. Alot easier to deal with.

Actually, that was one of the bolts. I fixed that in my post.

I'm going to see about having a nut welded to the top of it, thoughts on that?

s1ngletracker 12-03-2009 12:25 PM

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welding a nut could work, methinks

A//// Guy 12-03-2009 12:29 PM

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Do it right.... Get it removed and get rid of those studs.

cmspaz 12-03-2009 12:43 PM

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Do you recommend anything specific to replace them with?

TkrPerformance 12-03-2009 12:49 PM

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take it out and all bolts
I have some good bolts for turbo's I can get you a set just stop by

deadeye 12-03-2009 12:53 PM

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A Irwin bolt out would probably get that out without having to drop the turbo. Otherwise welding a nut on would do it.

A//// Guy 12-03-2009 01:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmspaz (Post 315216)
Do you recommend anything specific to replace them with?

Brand new OEM bolts and some high heat treated lock washers, thats why I used on my 1g back in the day, never had an issue.

asshanson 12-03-2009 01:47 PM

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Same thing happened when I upgraded to a t28, for some reason the top broke off. Couldn't get it out with it in the car, but it was easy to get out with the turbo in my hands.

Go with OEM turbo bolts, should be the same as evo ones. I think they are about $5 apiece new but worth it over hardware store stuff.

scheides 12-03-2009 02:06 PM

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Yup, put on new bolts and you won't have any problems.


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