Damn FP, Kevin u should get this: FP 68HTA DSM
 

http://store.forcedperformance.net/m..._Code=Turbo-FP

A hefty tag, but if its as good as their other turbos should be nothing but smiles. I can't believe it still has an internal gate though.

Aaron

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link didnt work for me :(

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Link no worky...

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He must be linking to this:

http://store.forcedperformance.net/m...Code=DSM-Turbo

HTA68...billet HTA wheel in a td05 form...looks liek a 16g, performs like a 20g or 50-trim....wow!

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That is such a turboner creator.

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stick it in your Audi...

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:wank:

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That is actually very very cool.

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might be my next upgrade if i ever get a job and some money coming in again

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Beats the eff out of the sleeper 16g or an 18g

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Lol I thought u would like Scheides. I'm gonna call fp later if I get time if nick doesnt.
Thing is suby have had one for a while theirs is 849 not 925.
I really wanna see someone run this with similar mods.

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Actaully list on suby one is 899. Someone on a forum said they got it for 825.
Anywho my brain turned on and what about a hta 20g?
Fuck it hta every damn thing. But if that 16g can run 35Psi all day it would make me happy.

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Damn! These have been the hot ticket for Subies for a couple months now we get one, that looks like one hell of a sweet turbo!

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Two of those on a 3.5/3.7L 3S would be pretty fun.

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Oh stop please.

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Wow, that thing looks pretty bad ass! Too bad they want so damn much for it... Looking at $1020 for a ported one. Damn.

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For that kind of money you could get a turbo capable of MUCH greater power. But WOW is that a sick turbo.. I wish I had some money just laying around. I would test that out in a heart beat!

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WHAT THE BALLS!?! I'd love to have that kind of turbo. Not alot of people would really know what would be going on...both ways, most wouldn't if they saw the td05 housing! sick turbo. One day, I hope this will be mine.

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Not the point of this turbo at all.

Sound like a great street turbo though! I wish new Evo turbos were this cheap.

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Damn, that is sweet. Can't wait to see people putting up numbers with this. Curious to see what it will actually do.

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Yes, I realize.

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seen it a few days ago. it is really nice but for the price I would just buy a gt35 or gt40. but that is just me

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Steve Hill, you need this turbo if you are going to a sleeper 16g setup like you say you are.

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the sad part is that its a big evo2 turbo, machined intake, stock exhaust housing, and they sell the damn thing for $925? thats ridiculous!!! you can get a big evo2 turbo, bore it our for a 20g wheel, rebuilt and have a evo3 thick cast exhaust housing for $600 said and done and make more power.

i think this turbo is a cool design but is a huge waste of money and time...

they should be more focused on making a 50trim extended tip fin design so that you can get more top end pull out of it. that would be worth the extra money!

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Waste of time? Why, all the customer has to do is hit buy it now and it is theirs... If a normal person was looking into something like this, they probably wouldnt know about the turbo upgrades you just stated. Plus it is a billet wheel, lets see you get a billet 20g wheel in there for the $600 you stated.

On top of that, the normal person looking at this turbo wouldnt want to try to find a turbo, then have to find someone to machine the intake housing, find a 20g wheel, have the turbo rebuilt/balanced before they get the turbo. I personally think that is more of a waste of time.

In my opinion... Billet > all else

You are missing a point here, not only do you make quite a bit more power than an average 16g will give you AND you get faster spool/power than an average 16g as well. How can you go wrong if you are in the market for a turbo a little larger than a 16g but want something with the spool of a 14b/s16g...

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for the average "consumer" i could understand, but with the awesome community here im sure that the average person would not have a hard time getting one made..*wink* *wink*...

if you wanna get a billet wheel thats cool, but you can also have titanium wheels (intake and exhaust) ordered and it would cost almost the same! not to mention they spool even faster! like i said, i just cannot see this being that good for $925...

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Just stop talking.

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Some people like quality stuff, not half-assed junk.

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wow superbleeder that was very rude, and btw fp used to offer titanium wheels that were a hell of alot cheaper than what they offer now. i wouldnt consider it half assed junk because they used to sell and create it!

so before anybody come up with anymore "stupid" comments about what i say, maybe you should call them because they have been doing what i do for alot longer and its still the same!

and kevin define quality of a shitty billet aluminum wheel vs. a billet machined titanium one? same diagram they are being made for but the titanium wheels take 30 times more pressure before failure.

its amazing that when somebody posts up knowledge about a part and describes why it would be better, people who have no idea how they are made, or even how they are test, open up and shoot other people down who have been there and test hundreds of ideas to come to the same conclusions and results!

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this article talks about all the "stock" evo turbos that came with titanium aluminide wheels, not full titanium but you get the gist, and an article from Borg Warner talking about versatility in motors

http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-eng...iants-20g.html

http://www.turbos.bwauto.com/product...Impellers.aspx

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^I can honestly say that I am interested in the knowledge u have sir, please send me a pm and thank u for the links i will try to read them soon.

Back OT. As i stated it has the usual FP price tag, but as i also said the customer is usually extremely pleased with it.
I can say that if this was out when i got rid of my 16G i might of got this thing considering how ginormous the HX35 is.
We are posting about this on link hopefully they jump on there and chime in, if not curt brown is on there hinting about one for his DD he said he could make 520-550 on it.

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Is anyone on the Link forums (or any other for that matter) running one of these bad boys yet?

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No not yet

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If I had a spare $1K laying around I'd be all over this.

Looks like a good roadrace turbo.


As far as it being expensive. When I bought my old ported/clipped Big 16G/34mm gate from TRE back in the day it was 900+ brand new. That was back in around 2000 when a 20G was considered almost unstreetable :D

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So jhaan_dude, sounds like you have found your way (or are on your way) to being on the 'inside' of the turbo parts community that is cloaked in secrecy these days. If you have the ability to produce these sleeper 16g turbos and other such things, that's awesome. Start a business and do it, way cool :) They DO have a billet 50-trim setup, but it's based on the new-gen gt3076. That turbo by itself is nothing spectacular, but the HTA3076 is the same wheel that's in the FP evo red and is quite a performer.

The on topic turbo in this thread, the hta68 (hta16g if you will) this is a dream come true. I had SBR's bastard20g and loved it, but always loved the responsiveness of the small16g I had on the car prior to that. I got about 280whp @24psi w/ simple AFC tuning, stock cams, and a little bit of 111 mixed in the tank. 300whp@27psi (on LSE's DD dyno). I'd be willing to bet that a well setup DSM with a basic FMIC, hks272's, this turbo, and dsmlink would do 260-280whp w/o pushing the setup too hard on pump gas. Guess what, we're in 50-trim and gt3076 (kevin) territory on a stock-appearing turbo with the transient response and boost threshold of a 14b or s16g.

That my friends is HUGE. The powerband alone (3000-7000) would make anyone grin and the peak numbers are not too shabby....and while the power may not be 400whp, I'd be willing to bet that anyone willing to make the switch to E85 (lots of dsm'ers these days) or make the investment in an alky kit would see nearly that (400) pretty easily with the right setup. Shane tuned a 'regular' evo3 16g car to 350whp last summer with E85 IIRC.

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Also, until we see some legit dyno numbers with info on the parts setup and tuning to keep it in perspective, this turbo is nothing but a 'what if' for me. It would be cool if it did all of the stuff I said above, but hey, it might suck.

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and 360 TQ !

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I wouldn't mind a billet Ti alloy wheel over a billet Al wheel.

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I agree with kevin on this, I would take quality over cheapness anyday. I think you dsm guys are pretty lucky to be able to get a nice BRAND NEW turbo for under $1000 that just bolts on to your stock manifold. Us evo guys have to spend almost twice as much for a new upgraded turbo (hta green,Fp red, BBK full). I will be looking forward to seeing some dyno numbers on this hta68.

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Prove it. Dont show me the TME Evo 6.5 unit, obviously FP didnt make that.


30 times? Did you just pull that number out of the air? commercial grades of titanium are about 50% stronger in tensile than equivalent 6061-t6.

i think you've read a lot of forums and now you believe you're some kind of expert. You're oversimplifying a complex device. "oh ya just hog out the housings, throw some old 20g wheels in them, oh and dont forget to include some exotic metals!"