what turbo to get??
 

well I am officially in the market for a new turbo (new or used)

it's for my 1g talon and I'm looking for an EIII 16g or larger. but what I would like to know is what you guys recommend and what are some of you running and what kind of numbers are you making? thanks

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evo3 16g

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What hp do you want to put down?

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You want my Super 16G trust me. :D

But seriously, if you want a turbo that will perform much like an EVO III with a little bit better topend power my Hahn super 16g would be the turbo to get. It won't put out quite the same power as your V-trim did, but they are much better turbos.

It comes with an adapter plate so the turbo will bolt up to your FP manifold, and comes with the O2 housing as well.

http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24021

The only thing you may need is a manifold spacer plate so it will clear the block and water pipe.

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I'd like to make 400whp at db on e85

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well I only made 30 hp more than you on the dyno dynamics so it's pretty close. but ill definitely think about it to get me back on the road.

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You would be darn close with my s16g and E85.

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Evo 3 16g.

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evo III 16g

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I could sell you one of these
evo III 16 it is the one that came on my evo III front clip
pte scm5031e
frank 60-1
both of them are exturnal gated

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Forced Performance 16g, intended to run from 18-26 psi (doesn't mean you can't go higher).

Cost about twice as much as an MHI EVO III 16g but then again its 10 lbs of shit in a 5 lb bag.

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hey man go with the evo 3 16g or the fp 16g if you have got the money. i just bought much bigger turbo then the 16g so give me a call if you want my old evo 3 16g itz in perfect condition. i will give you the buddy discount lol

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thanks for the input so far

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A 16G isn't going to put down 400awhp on my dyno without nitrous.

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how do u put nos on a turbo car

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The evo3 is poplular. It's for sure a solid choice in a street car. Mine certainly has put a smile on my face many times. Not sure bout the Hp # as I havent dynoed it, but it makes me happy. Take the advice ^ for sure though, he knows whats up.

I guess if your after higher numbers maybe step it up to 18g or a td06 20g. Those should get you up to the numbers your after, without being too expensive. Otherwise step it up to a ball bearing turbo like a scm50-60. Those will definitly put you in that range and above.

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I guess it's possible that a 16G car might, but it isn't likely. A handfull have gotten into the 350s-380s range, but I haven't had one hit 400 yet. Most put down in the 320-360 range on E85.

A 50-trim can hit 400awhp. 61s usually make over 400.

You usually run a wet nitrous kit on a turbo car. You can use a purely dry kit if you have a more advanced engine management system like an AEM EMS that can control the nitrous and add fuel through the injectors. You need to have enough octane to support boost and nitrous though, both use up octane. C3L1CA on here is running over 30psi and spraying nitrous on a stock internal motor with the help of E85.

If you don't have to make 400awhp though, the Evo 3 16G will give the best spoolup vs HP out of any turbo I know.

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50/60 trim. I had a B16g about 8 years ago and got tired/accostomed to the power quite quickly. When I threw the 50 then 60 trim on, I was good for a bit longer.

I am sure some of the local 16g cars are fun but I think a little bit of lag is also fun. I would try to get a ride in a 16g car, then a bigger turbo car and see what you like better. Daily driving is also a different experience.

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^very true. I guess if its gonna be a dd maybe the 16g would be a better bet. If its a weekend warrior then go for broke.

Me personally (not that anyone cares), I like to do corners too, so a little less lag is good for that.

I do have to agree though, with a bigger turbo, the lag is pretty fun. Its kind of a tease, it makes you think, wow-this thing is kinda a pooch...then it builds boost and it pushes you back into the seat. Makes me feel like the power sort of snuck up on me or something.

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^^^ Actually I liked the lag on a DD. Didn't have the turbo spooling all day long just before I shift.

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^Lol, just goes to show there is always another angle and way to look at something. I suppose the mpg's may actually be better since your probably shifting before the boost hits in a dd situation. LOL, bigger turbos may just be the way to solve the mpg problem.

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Big turbos are nice if you want your DD to feel like a normal sedated car and get better gas mileage. If you want a twitchy high strung feeling pocket rocket then get a quick spooling 14B, T28 or 16G. The 16G is killer for autox and track racing though. But sometimes the turbo always spooling when you are just trying to drive normal gets annoying.

Some people have to take off quick from every stoplight, hit it on every on ramp and drive like a maniac weaving in and out of traffic on the freeway. If that is your driving style then get a 16G. If you can control yourself, only use the power when you need it, and know to downshift into the right gear when you want to go fast, then maybe get a big turbo.

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True^lol i think that why most people go the 16g itz really fun when spooling up. great for quick take off so..this is why i keep a 16g on hand as a back up turbo.

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I drive the car a lot but not always daily driven and the v trim doesn't exactly spool the greatest so I'm already used to a little lag so I think I'm leaning toward a 50 trim or 60 trim unless you guys have any other suggestions

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^sounds like you got it figured out. they are really decent turbos and Im sure you will be happy with either one.

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I really like my Holset. I spool up around 4000rpm. It's laggy. I like it. I have had a 20G car, and 14B cars. Even the 20G wasn't laggy. The constant spooling gets annoying IMHO. And you save a lot more gas when your turbo is like an on/off switch. You just put around normal, and then if you need to f*ck with that Camaro you can.

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A "back up turbo"? Sorry, but anyone running a big turbo, it's not quite that easy to swap on. REAL "big turbos" use different manifolds, external wg's, different exhausts, feed/return lines, intake, etc, not to mention different tune. Keeping it for safe keeping..ok. But, as a backup to something else, to me says it's a "swapable affair". Usually not associated with larger framed guys.

All that said, I suggest a gt47-88. Puts some hair on your chest. :moon:

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I like my scm61 and would recommend it.

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well i've found an scm61 and an scm50 that I am deciding between. I just need to find an external wastegate setup to go with it

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yes i know the big turbo require different manifolds, external wg's, different exhausts, feed/return lines, intake, etc, i keep the 16g as a back up turbo for my other dsm which is currunly runnin the stock turbo ...anyway i also recommend the scm61 or if you want some hair on your chest go with the gt47-88 :biggrin:

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I just want my car on the road asap and can't afford a new turbo right now and like I said I have found a decent deal on a scm 5031 and an scm6152 I'm just not sure wich one yet and need to find an external wg setup

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James (slowbubblecar) has this turbo still sitting in my garage:

http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23835

I think he got it to put on a car he is thinking about selling (or my car) but nothing has happened yet. I know he has several different mainfolds laying around, oil line kit, 02s, etc.

I have a 60trim laying around that I would need to get rebuilt if you are interested in it at all. It was John Lacroix's old turbo. It hauled ass on a 2g gs-t before needing rebuild. I may throw it on my car though...

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I need a mitsuflanged turbo cause I don't want to get rid of my fp exhaust manifold. the one in the link is a t3. is the 60 trim a mitsu flange?

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Idk, I will have to check. They do make small adapter plates to put a T3 housing on a mitsu flange.

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lol adapter plates.

I would say fiddy trim, i like response and the TQ smaller turbos make early.
I have a bolton HX35 and I like it spools damn fast for its size and the top end is there.

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I have one of these, make me an offer.

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The question is how much do you want to spend? The best option if you have the money is a bolt on HX35.

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get a S374 or just a T101.

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I was thinking "400awhp" because everyone needs this much power because the internet tells them so. Once they actually have one that fast they realize what they do and do not need.

Maybe he does need 400awhp, then there will be a sacrifice of low end performance, on a 2.0L, to get where he needs to be.

I still think the evo 16g on E85 is the best street combo on a dsm.

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not a ton right now. I just want to find a used turbo that's in good shape that will last me a while


and do I need 400awhp honestly I would say no it's more of a want ;). I haven't completely ruled out the evo III 16g. it is definitely the best bang for the buck.

and honestly right now I don't know if I can flip the bill for an external wastegate setup like most the turbos I actually want need. so that leaves me with a new v-trim like I have now cause they are cheap or a new eIII 16g cause they are the same price (or maybe a used one). I guess it just depends on how long I want my car out of commission