Will my fricken' luck ever change?
 

So, as you all know, my luck as of late could not get any worse, and I really can't think of how it could. I won't get into it, as in reality, no one cares much for it. But, I decided that I needed SOMETHING for ME. So, I scrounged together some cashola ( and some I didn't have) to get up on the rollers at the BEGINNING of the year, and not at the end.

I got up to DB, with some gas in car, and we threw it up..here's proof!

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First off, my motor is noisy, always has been, always will be..dunno why. Proof is in the pudding..look closely at the blue..that's knock.."phantom" knock, with a few counts of real in there..

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Shane worked his magic in a rather quick manner..

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And the results are..ok. I can not fault anyone for the tune or etc, but myself and the car. I will first give a HUGE thanks to Shane for staying soo late with me to work this out, and sort some issues. Also, Thanks for John to stop by and lend a hand. And, the few peeps that showed up ;)

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Numbers are: 533 AWHP 390 TQ 35ish psi.

Now, just to make myself a bit happier, and to give everyone a BIT of my "bench number" prospective, I took Mara's numbers, and Andrew's (asshanson) and looked at their differences on DB to MAP's dyno..both right around 18%..within about 2-3 hp. So, with that in mind..my "projected" numbers would be: 628AWHP, 460 TQ

Again, that's BENCH numbers, as I didn't actually strap down there YET. I plan on it, just to see if I follow the same path as others have.

To say I'm happy, would not be quite right. It's fun, yes..but the powerband is what kills me. Through no fault of John or myself, all the stuff we fixed/changed over winter, the car STILL can't rev! It CUTS out hard at the SAME spot! 7950! I should be able to go to 8750ish. I'm not too happy. This is a laggier setup. I dunno if it's the need to shim the valve springs, port the head, get different cams, get a stroker motor, or live with it, and get a small turbo..I dunno. But, whatever. Something MUST change..this has been 2 years chasing whatever the f^&* the issue is!

Riding home in the car, with shane right there was...interesting. I have a few issues, that I'm sure he and I will continue to work out. A)1600's are not for faint of heart. part throttle is decent at best..just too hard to tune around with their resolution. B) when on highway, downshifting into say..3rd, the car spits and sputters a bit..burry the throttle..it still does..then cleans up..then...woooa. hold on. Which brings me to my next point..C) I need better tires! I guess AWD burnouts are my new thing..as that's what this car likes to do. Shane and I had about 4 attempts at each other on the way back south to go home..first time I did it, there was a cop in the divider area...oopS! other times..it just bucked..sputtered then took off, and spun..got a bit sideways.

So ya. That's my day. I can't say there is much more in the car, atleast right now. Few options we'd try is a 1g knock sensor, that's less sensative as a 2g is. Also, boost leak test, and clean out the fuel filter, as the fuel pressure and tune was not quite right.."running out of fuel" it seems like, but injectors are right around 70% DC, so clogged filter? Other then that, I'm out of ideas! We had an issue with my MAP sensor too, so right now I'm on a spare one Shane had sitting around (thanks Shane!) and I'll TRY to see if somehow AEM will warranty mine?

Anyway, that's all for now. Video is WAY too slow to upload, and frankly, not a whole lot to look at. I stopped at taco bell on the way home, as I didn't have much to eat..actually NOTHING AT ALL today, since last night! So, I drove there..guy at the window was a little "happy" when I pulled up, and started obsessing..kinda funny. But, now my belly is full of tacos, burritos, and quesadilla's. I guess I gotta be happy I'm now on that smelly corn schtuff, and I DROVE the car home..not towed it. So, I hope in the future, I can have better news to deliver to you all. For now, there ya have it!

-A. Swift

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WOOT swifty! Post dyno charts or ban! :D

Respectable numbers, sorry you can't figure out the rpm thing :(

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-you cans ee my bright yellow zip up on the reflection of the car, proof i was there..lol

-sorry about all your issues you had but we were there to keep you somewhat happy

-your powerband does suck donkey balls

-at least your full of tacos and burritos and mexican food

-you could of came over for some beer to fill ya right up! ;)

-you should of gotten a pic of whatever the hell you said was glowing red

-i want a ride sometime :)

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That isn't that bad of luck! I was waiting to hear that you blew it up on the dyno! My car started spitting molten aluminum and started the firewall on fire, THAT is bad luck :D

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+1, enjoy the car, keep working on the issues and just have fun with it :)

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lol...i thought your engine blew or something. that got me scared just reading it man. its good that nothing bad happened but it totally sucks that the car cant be pushed to its max potential. I know how that feels man. I least you drove it home which, i hope, put a smile on your face. Those awd burnouts would forever put a smile on my face if my car could do that.

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good powarz!

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Not too bad. Not what I was expecting out of your ride. But Id be stoked to have over 500hp in my car. Maybe since it was a ground issue last time kinda for those RPMS you need to upsize your ground cables. Or something. Thats weird you cant push it.

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That COP is still on there.........?

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I've only beaten him up on it for 2 years now.

Glad to see you got it tuned at a higher boost level. Get it over at MAP for a comparision if you want and get to the track man!

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500+ at DB is no fucking joke.

Fuck i probably won't even break 400 there. Keep at it man, listen to some people that know as much as you are on the net, you know that you have to at least try getting rid of the COP to see if its the problem.

1600s are fine, the only complaint I have with them is when you are cruising they will have an occasional "miss" to them, but from what I have found that is common.

Bring it out to hooters tonight and enjoy everyone wanting a ride in your new burnout machine, i know i want one.

Sorry I didnt make it out, a friend needed help with his car and it took forever.

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but it's so clean.......

(see curt brown issue about the same issue and Advanced Auto wires and a 2g whatever thing - oh cleaned up smoothe non-misfiring car, but who would want that???)

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was plug gap down? I am sure it was, but to check.

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Nice power! Try some different (slightly smaller?) injectors and see if you can clean up your issues.

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Nice power. What boost was the 533 made at? I know the 67's really like boost. Add another vote to ditching the C.O.P. IMO if you really want a better powerband I'd get a 35r HTA. You'd have all the power of the 67 with none of the lag.

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^35r hta looks damn hot.

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Good power!! Watching it dyno last night made me want a dsm again... lol!

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I am looking into a perhaps "smaller" turbo setup..most likely the 6262, but I dunno.

I've tried John's AEM EMS, I've tried different maps, I've tried brand new coils, eliminating the MSD, AND going back to a stock ignition, ALL TO NO AVAIL! I DO NOT KNOW what the F is wrong with this damn car, but the money i've spent in chasing this F-in issue is beyond redonculous.

-A. Swift

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Boost is listed..36ish psi..Another thing..that didn't quite hold consistantly.

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Have you ever thought about getting one of the m&w boxes, I have heard lots of good things. Thats some good power. It looks a little laggy, but its probably still really fun.

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I wouldn't mind the lag at all, if It would rev. That's just it. I really dunno what to do. Stroker motor, downgrade the turbo. But, even if I do that, I'd still want it to rev. IF it was valvetrain, we all would think that it would not wanna rev consistantly. But, it CONSISTANTLY stops at fricken 7950ish, and then the fuel keeps going, dumping it all in, backfiring, and sounds like a fricken subaru! ARG!

-A. Swift

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-double post, stupid comps-

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To me it sounds like a spark issue. But what do I know. lol

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Get a smaller turbo for sure. Make awesome power from 4500-8 and be happy. Who cares if you cant get that extra 500 rpm?

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Swifty does!

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The problem is you have systematically elimated problems and once you've checked it off you haven't went back and rechecked it.

The cam degreeing was off, was it hurting power? Who knows, compare the poweband charts I guess.

The inproper grounding was bad for the car. Was it the only problem? Obviously not...but I guarantee the car needs its grounds.

If the wiring was the problem the entire time it could of masked a bad cop setup as well. Were the ignition coils you swapped in good? I know the map and aems have been swapped also. I know that one time we found 1 coil not making contact all the way with the plug when street tuning.
Have the ignition signal wires been traced from the AEM to the msd? How about to the coils?

The engine is in 100% perfect health? Then it is a wiring or electrical (ignition) issue.

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Just out of curiosity, what plugs and gap are you running? We ran into some miss-firing on my car also. I was running stock BPR6's gapped at .020. Swapped in some 7's gapped at .020 and the issue was gone.

Another dumb question, but if you turn the boost to the minimum you can run, do you still have miss-firing issues at higher RPM's? As I'm sure you're well aware of, the more boost you run, the more your chances of running into spark related issues.

Great numbers though. I think you have a TON of more power in that thing if you can get it all worked out. Like brownman said, 500 on DB's dyno is nothing to laugh at. We all know that, no need to tell us what it'd make on a DynoJet. I'm sure you'd walk me, considering I have hardly any weight reduction done.

What tires are you running btw? I haven't gotten squirrelly in 3rd yet, just 1st and 2nd. I'm on some 235/45/17 HTRZ3's, and they seem to be gripping quite well.

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Car hits a brick wall at any boost. It did the same at 20psi when I was messing with it last fall.

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Thanks guys for your input. I wanna say again it's no fault of anyone here, or am I blaming everyone..I'm just disappointed in power vs/ boost, and the revving issues.

Brandon, we swapped my plugs once they got bad on the dyno, with new ones..bpr7es, gapped to I BELIEVE .020? (shane?)
Boost at a minimum still won't allow it to rev past that 7950..it hits a wall, sounds/feels like it's a hard, rather rapid 2-step cut, and falls on it's face. Gas planted to the floor, it WILL NOT rev past. But, free-reving, it will all the way. Yes, we checked and double checked all rev limiters, and the ignition setup, like hte MSD box and such.

Tires are def. an issue..3rd..and If I remember right 4th too last night(cooler out?). They are Riken raptor ZR's..225/50/16. The rims are 16x8 I'm pretty sure (maybe 16x 8.5) and I wanna go to a wider tire setup..perhaps something in a 245/255 variant.

-A. Swift

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Brandon and you are making me jealous. Can't wait to get me car on the dyno again. This time with E-85 instead of pump.

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I say run 'em!!!!! with video.

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Pretty sure he'd wax my ass, so it's not even funny. brandon has that thing called "awesome poewrband..with power!" not only does he make more, but he makes more, with more to use.

-A. Swift

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Coming to hooters tonight? :D

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If free revving works....what if you back off to like 80% throttle @ 8k....?

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still hits wall..any kinda load it hates life.

And, hooters MAYBE. But, I assure you..you'll win. You get better traction, more power, powerband, and my car is hitting some fuel issues up higher rpms', say if I start out at 40 in 2nd or 3rd.. it doesn't like WOT..then clears, then goes..then hits the rev limiter shane set.

-A. Swift

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To bad you live in Savage. Can't swing by anymore to look issues quickly.

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lol i'm closer to your work then you are..lol

-A. Swift

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You should have never changed your exhaust housingnto that .82?? I still have that .68 at exhaust housing on my ride. It spools very quick for a bigger turbo and makes great power. I vote to go back to the .68ar housing. :-)

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I have a divided .70 housing, with the divided manifold. Before it was an undivided .58.

-A. Swift

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Ahh my bad I thought you had the big housing. How come it's so laggy??