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Here's some pics. :drive:
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2...X/4g63sno1.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2...GSX/4g63-2.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2.../4g63wash1.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2...o/GSX/4g63.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2...anFPintake.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2...agecluster.jpg

Think My next buy will be a 3" GM MAS and a translator. Then maybe a larger turbo. ;)

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One day the kid that bought my car will post something like this up and brag about how nice he kept it....I hope:(

Looks great!

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Good to know my parts was useful. How's the apexi filter and hks bov doing?

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Good . :) Probably will sell it when I get a GM MAS & translator and get a filter like Chris had on the car before ..... like this

http://www.scheides.com/albums/2g/DSC00300.sized.jpg

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Stick with the 2g mas and spend your money on something more useful then a MAFT.

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Why?

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A 2g mas is better in my opinion, especially at your power level.

Look at GoatBlower, he has a 2g mas and is pushing like 600whp on E98 on DBs dyno.

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maps dyno

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He was close to that on DBs too I'm pretty sure, but really doesn't matter.

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Hmm good 2 know! ty :nod:

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The 2G MAS does tune nicer. It does a much better job at metering correctly and consistantly.

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OMG I MISS IT! I actually drove away from my wedding in that car, and we had wedding photos taken with it. Black 2Gb's are so sexy.

Put the money from the MAF-T setup towards a nice set of HKS 272's and DSMLink.

Can you pleeeeeeeease bring it to the spring dyno day? Even if you don't dyno it, I just wanna see it again! Heck, I'll let you drive my evo if you let me drive your 2G :)

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mmmmm DSM Link.. I should do that soon.. I did just get a new laptop... HKS 272's, or 272's on the exhaust and 268 on intake?? And I will defiantly try to make it to the spring Dyno day! I'll come to a meet sometime soon too. I've just had allot going on for the past year. :):spin::nod:

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264 / 272 would be nice for your setup.

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Cool! hmm. wow $650. need to rob a bank soon I think..lol or just win the lottery... or just save up ... lol

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Is there a link with the details on the car's setup? Or a list?

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Actually theres not. I'm not sure what size injectors chris left in it, but it's
stock 6 bolt swap, W ballance shaft removed
poly motor mounts
small 16G,
I think 650cc or so injector,
SAFCII,
FP intake
HKS SSQV BOV Recirculated
APEXi Power Intake

Needs a few things, I want a DSM link for it, I need to work on the passenger side axel, & maybe ball joint... dunno. there is a small amount of play left & right. the wheel seems to toe in when breaking and toe out when accelerating. I thought it was the brakes, but when I had it up on the jack changeing th oil.. I noticed the play in the wheel when I grabed ahold of it. Grrrrr...:madashell: oh well spring fun!!

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DSMLink is the shit.

I'd do all maintence on it and then purchase link and go from there modding wise.

Then you can sell the SAFCII and throw that money towards Cams.

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Ahh good call on the selling the SAFCII to fund the cams ;) So I guess I better start looking for a socketed 2G EPROM ECU...

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Ya, like the week I bought that car I bought a 95 EPROM and gave it to a guy on here to socket/chip for dsmlink and I never saw it again :( Otherwise that car would have it already! Those are FIC 650's, the car also has some misc piping and an ebay FMIC....I had a nice big buschur FMIC on it but that got sold with the turbo I had on it at the time; I got an offer I couldn't refuse.

It also has stop-tech slotted rotors and EBC greens (if I remember correctly?)

Actually, I just dug up the mod list, as I sold it:

97 Eclipse GSX
6-bolt motor swap w/
-arp hardware
-QPR EGR Block-off
-BS elim kit
-'90 oil filter housing w/ air-to-air oil cooler
Polyeurethane Motor Mounts
Southbend DXD Clutch
Buschur TB Elbow
Ported 2G Exhast Manifold w/ EGT tap
2.5" downpipe, w/ dual 3" resonators
Apexi N1 cat-back
Walbro 255HP fuel pump
Apexi AFC-2
PLX M-250 Wideband Setup w/ Gauge
FIC 650cc injectors
Polished 1G rail w/ custom-mounted FP gauge
Taylor 10mm Thundervolt Plugwires
RRE Crankcase breather/oil catch can
Hallman MBC
PWR Aluminum Radiator
Dual 12" FAL High-flow Fan (pull)
10" SPAL High-flow Fan (push)
Stoptech slotted rotors
EBC Red brake pads
17" OZ Racing rims w/ Bridgstone Potenza's
SLS Center-vent gauge bezel
Autometer Boost + EGT gauges in sleeper mount :)
Polished eBay Strut-tower bar
Tokico Illumina 5-way adj. struts
Tokico Progressive Springs
Ingalls Front & Rear Camber Kit

Anyways, do the maintenance, then dsmlink, sell afc for a used set of hks 272s...go the 272's, they're a good cam and not that big....used you can get them for like $400. You could also 'downgrade' the 650's: sell them for $250, and buy a set of Evo 560cc injectors for $150 (or less)....more money towards dsmlink and the car will run better on the s-afc in the meantime :)

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I agree on the used cams route. I picked up my HKS 272's for $400 shipped. They work great, and I love the way they idle.

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Thank you for the full list. :) Now it has a 6 puck Competition Clutch, and a COP.
I've got more plans for it as soon as money stabilizes. Had a hard year. Naw.. don't wanna downgrade.. just hold on to em till i can utilize them better. Hmm think someone here had crower 272's for sale... might still see if he's got em. ;)

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Just don't get the Brian Crower 272s.

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reasons?

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They are shit, I'd recommend HKS of FP.

I know when I build my head it will be getting FP4 cams.

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cool. ty :biggrin:

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I also agree however going with some used cams. Your best bet is finding a used set of cams is HKS 272s, if 264/272 come around don't be pass those up.

If you buy new, get FP. On MAPs and FPs site they will tell you what one of their cams is compairable to HKS 272s and whether you need upgraded valve springs or not.

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I'd make moves to round up 700 dollars.

1G Clyinder Head
1G Head, HKS 272s, 1MM Oversized Valves, Fidenza Cam Gears, Crower Springs & Retainers
$700

That is on TalonRacers or Blageos part out thread, can't remember they both have AWD black Spyders... :)

Built head with cams and cam gears for a good price... Can't beat that.

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+1. I got my used HKS 272's for something like 350.

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Dang.. I should.. but then I'd have to rip the head off & re time it, head gasket... more money.. ugh Dang DSM... gotta love em.. think I'm going for the ECMLink next.... but dang I should really buy that... ugh decisions decisions.....:evil:

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I rather get that head and stay with the SAFC II then buy DSMlink.

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Hmm I can afford the head... but cant afford to put it on... unless I had some help ;) how long do ya think it would take to swap out.. then I guess I could sell my old head... hrmm... I want it!!

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A built head isn't going to be worth it for this car, heck I had the opportunity to do it on my evo and I still didn't do it.

That is the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. Sorry, but that makes zero sense. There's way more to be gained by having full control of fuel, timing, etc...heck, any gains you might dream of realizing from that head, you'd need dsmlink to get them...

Don't do the head. Just get cams and dsmlink in whatever order makes sense. A cam swap is easy and you can run them on the stock valvesprings no problemo (anyone else see a problem with this? I have yet to.) The car has a good head on it already, doing a full head swap is just going to be a huge PITA and cost a lot more money than its worth.

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incase everyone didn't notice..DSM's are a BASIC receipe for power gains! Simple! Sounds like the above are trying to reinvent the wheel, but might come up short..

-A. Swift

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Cool Thanks! Guess I'll be ordering the ECMLink soon! Got the 95 2g eprom ecu yesterday!

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Awesome! Get it up to shane and get some numbers down, then do cams when you're ready....etc etc :) I'm excited to see what she'll do!

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Ya, I'll will need some schooling on the tuning with the link, Just finished figuring out the SAFCII lol.

Okay so the eprom looks almost like its in a socket already... umm how do I know. Guess I'll take a pic of it later when I get home.

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Ya just snap a pic of it and post it up, plenty of people here will be able to tell ya.

Idea:
Once you get dsmlink, buy a set of used evo 560cc injectors for $100-150, sell your 650's for $240 or so, sell s-afc for some cash, add in a few bucks and you have enough for a set of hks 272's :) That whole combo would be sweeet.

Are you planning on sticking with the turbo that's on there? Anyways, I'm rambling now....

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I hear what you are saying scheides, but personally I rather have a 1g built head instead of a non built 2g head.

Why would you recommend a set of used HKS cams for 400 when you could have gears, retainers, springs, and valves on a 1g head for an extra 300.

Sure I will give it to ya, DSMlink would be more worth it, but good luck finding that type of a deal again. DSMlink isn't going anywhere, that head is...

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Because it's not a 2G head ;) It's a 1G head, the car has that and a 6-bolt bottom end in it :) It's got arp headstuds and when I had it, good valveseals and didn't burn oil or coolant, and had recently had the timing belt and water pump replaced. Not something I'd jump into taking apart.

Mara/Shane's car makes 480whp on DB's dyno and 560whp on MAP's dyno with a stock, unported 6-bolt head with some basic springs (crowers) and hks 272's.

Another great route is just keep the s-afc and do cams, but sounds like dsmlink is on the way already :)